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Are Charlton a sleeping giant beginning to wake?

mendonca
mendonca Posts: 9,405
in General Charlton
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c5y05gl0n10o

Happy to see articles such as these in the mainstream media, at long last.
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  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 610
    Don't know about Charlton, but it seems that the press is starting to come out of a coma when it comes to reporting about us
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,866
    Charlton are a small - medium ish sized club. I hope it stays that way. 

    Just want to enjoy the Championship.  The premier league is a money pit for foreign investors and its not fun anymore. 

    If we somehow get promoted again, we'd have absolutely no chance of staying in that division.

    I'd only be happy for us from a financial perspective. It would be great in that regard and we can carry on building the club up after we get relegated due to only getting 25 points from 38 games.
  • Diebythesword
    Diebythesword Posts: 292
    Dave2l said:
    Charlton are a small - medium ish sized club. I hope it stays that way. 

    Just want to enjoy the Championship.  The premier league is a money pit for foreign investors and its not fun anymore. 

    If we somehow get promoted again, we'd have absolutely no chance of staying in that division.

    I'd only be happy for us from a financial perspective. It would be great in that regard and we can carry on building the club up after we get relegated due to only getting 25 points from 38 games.
    I’d 100% take being walloped for a season in the prem though. 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673
    Diebythesword said:
    Dave2l said:
    Charlton are a small - medium ish sized club. I hope it stays that way. 

    Just want to enjoy the Championship.  The premier league is a money pit for foreign investors and its not fun anymore. 

    If we somehow get promoted again, we'd have absolutely no chance of staying in that division.

    I'd only be happy for us from a financial perspective. It would be great in that regard and we can carry on building the club up after we get relegated due to only getting 25 points from 38 games.
    I’d 100% take being walloped for a season in the prem though. 
    It's so good for the bank balance too
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Small steps. I think we were always an irritation when we were in the Premier League and we’ll never be much more than that as far as the national media are concerned. In any case it’s a long way to go from a fourth place league one promotion to being in a position to worry about what Sky think about us.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited August 8
    kafka said:
    Dave2l said:
    Charlton are a small - medium ish sized club. I hope it stays that way. 

    Just want to enjoy the Championship.  The premier league is a money pit for foreign investors and its not fun anymore. 

    If we somehow get promoted again, we'd have absolutely no chance of staying in that division.

    I'd only be happy for us from a financial perspective. It would be great in that regard and we can carry on building the club up after we get relegated due to only getting 25 points from 38 games.
    Bigger than Bournemouth and Brentford though and as big as Fulham, Burnley, Brighton and Palace. We should be supporting this ambition and seeing how far NJ can take us.

    Definitely support 💪🏻 

    BUT the same idiots that said Curbs has taken us as far as he can as opposed to as far as the club can go without new money coming into the club when we were on the fringe of Europe would surface again as these people are still among us and biding their time.

    It's great that Nathan Jones is ambitious but I would take five years in the championship with a slight improvement every season until...

  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,525
    I don’t think any right minded journalist could refer to us as ‘giants’ suspect that bit is tongue in cheek but yes, we have woken up from a long slumber, one in which former owners prior to this current group seemed determined to keep us consistently sedated.

    Just as we clicked under Curbs/Varney and the then very committed and strategic CAFC Board of yesteryear, our current owners, boardroom and management appear aligned and focused on similar ambitions to be built upon in time. 

    Let the good times roll…our only desire
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    I think “sleeping giant” is pushing it a bit!
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,184
    More like caught asleep at Orpington when wanted Chislehurst. 
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,319
    edited August 8
    Got no desire to go back to the Premier League, the spending rules have basically made it a closed shop... For all the extra funds, it didn't stop Luton from going back down to League One... Okay, didn't help because they've focused on their new Stadium.

    Historically we're a Championship club, it remains one of the best Division's in the world, because of how unpredictable it is, which should be one of the biggest factors as to why we love Football, rather than how big your Bank Balance is... Being at this level equally means we don't have to deal with the EFL Trophy (Okay our U21s suffer a bit), and the fact we avoid a Non-League team in the FA Cup until at least the Third Round.

    We also get to visit our second home... Fratton Park this season

    What's not to like... Ignoring that rowdy lot up the road?
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited August 8
    To be a 'giant' was only an opportunity in the late 40's after the two FA cup finals but we didn't have the visionaries to see we could've been the giant club in south London and emulate Arsenal the other side of the river.

    Our first goal is to be an established Championship club which will be a great achievement if we succeed.

    We have only just started walking in a forward direction after years of stagnation so lets enjoy the journey. 
  • theeenorth
    theeenorth Posts: 2,278
    https://footballrates.com/alltimetable

    Interesting evidence to make your decision on.
    Anyway going into this season saying thank you to the likes of Mansfield, Shrewsbury, Burton and Port Vale for the laughs and the pints but I really don't want to go to any of them again for a long while if ever.

  • jonseventyfive
    jonseventyfive Posts: 3,353
    Not really a giant are we, but I'm hopeful of a crack at the top league before too long. 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673
    se9addick said:
    I think “sleeping giant” is pushing it a bit!
    It's what my missus calls me in the morning, unfortunately not because of a chiseled physique... 
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,866
    Over the last 20 years, we've spent the majority of that time in league one. 

    I know a lot of it is due to bad ownership, but it's about time the club just settles in a decent enjoyable league 
  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 581
    We've not been asleep more dormant/ borderline extinct.
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 610
    gringo said:
    We've not been asleep more dormant/ borderline extinct.
    Up until last season, Michael Crichton could've written about us being extracted from a piece of amber that's been dug up.
  • Gillis
    Gillis Posts: 998
    theeenorth said:
    https://footballrates.com/alltimetable

    Interesting evidence to make your decision on.
    Anyway going into this season saying thank you to the likes of Mansfield, Shrewsbury, Burton and Port Vale for the laughs and the pints but I really don't want to go to any of them again for a long while if ever.

    Not sure about this table, as it doesn't seem to take account of the level at which the points were earnt, unless I'm missing something. I prefer their all-time average league position table, which has at as 32, so midtable second tier, which feels about right to me (crucially puts us a few places above Palace, too).

  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,791
    edited August 8
    Dave2l said:
    Charlton are a small - medium ish sized club. I hope it stays that way. 

    Just want to enjoy the Championship.  The premier league is a money pit for foreign investors and its not fun anymore. 

    If we somehow get promoted again, we'd have absolutely no chance of staying in that division.

    I'd only be happy for us from a financial perspective. It would be great in that regard and we can carry on building the club up after we get relegated due to only getting 25 points from 38 games.
    I’m feeling a Donald Sutherland “negative waves” comment is due. We are at least as big as a few clubs in the premiership, no reason for us not to aim to get there.
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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,047
    Quite unnerving seeing all these positive things being said about us
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    We’ve never been a giant, sleeping or otherwise. We could and perhaps should have been but for reasons well known we never made the step. The boat for being a giant sailed long ago but we proved under Curbs, Murray and Varney that with the right owner and sensible ambition we can be  more than just a Jack the giantslayer. 
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
    fenaddick said:
    Quite unnerving seeing all these positive things being said about us
    Don't worry, we have 24 hours until we get grounded again...
  • jose
    jose Posts: 622
    The measure of whether we're becoming aroused from our slumbers will be points harvested.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    kafka said:
    Dave2l said:
    Charlton are a small - medium ish sized club. I hope it stays that way. 

    Just want to enjoy the Championship.  The premier league is a money pit for foreign investors and its not fun anymore. 

    If we somehow get promoted again, we'd have absolutely no chance of staying in that division.

    I'd only be happy for us from a financial perspective. It would be great in that regard and we can carry on building the club up after we get relegated due to only getting 25 points from 38 games.
    Bigger than Bournemouth and Brentford though and as big as Fulham, Burnley, Brighton and Palace. We should be supporting this ambition and seeing how far NJ can take us.
    I’d argue we are bigger than Fulham, Burnley, Brighton and the Stripeys.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    kafka said:
    Dave2l said:
    Charlton are a small - medium ish sized club. I hope it stays that way. 

    Just want to enjoy the Championship.  The premier league is a money pit for foreign investors and its not fun anymore. 

    If we somehow get promoted again, we'd have absolutely no chance of staying in that division.

    I'd only be happy for us from a financial perspective. It would be great in that regard and we can carry on building the club up after we get relegated due to only getting 25 points from 38 games.
    Bigger than Bournemouth and Brentford though and as big as Fulham, Burnley, Brighton and Palace. We should be supporting this ambition and seeing how far NJ can take us.
    Yes bigger than Bournemouth, Brentford, Burnley and Fulham.
    Same size as Brighton and Palace and not far behind Forest and Wolves.
    So we can easily compete with 8 of the 20.
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,960
    Attaining premiership status is the only way we ever get the Valley and training ground back.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    an aside .. good to see Harry Hill was at Wembley, avin a peep over Nathan's arm
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
    bolloxbolder said:
    Attaining premiership status is the only way we ever get the Valley and training ground back.
    Ultimately though, who is "we"?
  • NornIrishAddick
    NornIrishAddick Posts: 9,623
    I'm a bit paranoid, so double-checked the headline to make sure that the BBC had types "giant" rather than "gnat"...

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