Sheffield Wednesday - players and staff paid late 2 months in a row (p7)

Braziliance · July 10

Football violence does make me laugh. It's essentially adulthood bullying.

Real fighters and people who are tough use that energy for something positive like professional fighting. Find it embarrassing when I hear stories of football fans getting attacked, proper weirdo/bully boy behaviour.

You can literally just go to any fight gym and there's a queue of people actively wanting to fight/spar if you enjoy fighting that much.

ShootersHillGuru · July 10

MartinCAFC said:

IdleHans said:

My impression of them is not positive, and furthermore I seem to be in a minority that thinks Hillsborough is a shitty ground.
I hope Roln's return gives them false hope.

It's looking a bit tired and probably in need of the odd repair and lick of paint like most grounds do over the years. Fair to say even The Valley has looked a bit tired in recent times and still does in some parts but do you don't host FA Cup Semis and Euro 96 games for being a shitty ground.

The North Stand at Hillsborough is unlikely to get a safety certificate for the coming season and needs major repairs. Sheff Wed don’t now own their stadium and the rent is reported to be £2.5 million a year because Chansiri hasn’t paid it for several years and the rent has gone up to reflect that. To say Hillsborough is tired is very much an understatement.

TelMc32 · July 10

ShootersHillGuru said:

MartinCAFC said:

IdleHans said:

My impression of them is not positive, and furthermore I seem to be in a minority that thinks Hillsborough is a shitty ground.
I hope Roln's return gives them false hope.

It's looking a bit tired and probably in need of the odd repair and lick of paint like most grounds do over the years. Fair to say even The Valley has looked a bit tired in recent times and still does in some parts but do you don't host FA Cup Semis and Euro 96 games for being a shitty ground.

The North Stand at Hillsborough is unlikely to get a safety certificate for the coming season and needs major repairs. Sheff Wed don’t now own their stadium and the rent is reported to be £2.5 million a year because Chansiri hasn’t paid it for several years and the rent has gone up to reflect that. To say Hillsborough is tired is very much an understatement.

So he hasn’t paid himself the rent (he sold the stadium to himself) and therefore has increased the rent on himself??? No wonder they’re f*cked!!

Chris_from_Sidcup · July 10

ShootersHillGuru said:

MartinCAFC said:

IdleHans said:

My impression of them is not positive, and furthermore I seem to be in a minority that thinks Hillsborough is a shitty ground.
I hope Roln's return gives them false hope.

It's looking a bit tired and probably in need of the odd repair and lick of paint like most grounds do over the years. Fair to say even The Valley has looked a bit tired in recent times and still does in some parts but do you don't host FA Cup Semis and Euro 96 games for being a shitty ground.

The North Stand at Hillsborough is unlikely to get a safety certificate for the coming season and needs major repairs. Sheff Wed don’t now own their stadium and the rent is reported to be £2.5 million a year because Chansiri hasn’t paid it for several years and the rent has gone up to reflect that. To say Hillsborough is tired is very much an understatement.

Chansiri pays himself (his other company who own the stadium) the 2.5m rent from club money doesn't he? I'm sure i read something Keiran Maguire mentioned about it.

Chris_from_Sidcup · July 10

Looks like their takeover hopes are improving though.

I still suspect we might see some interested parties pulling out when they get to the point of going through the finances.

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5000498/uploads/editor/9z/6x13z5z6j0kd.png

letthegoodtimesroll · July 10

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Looks like their takeover hopes are improving though.

I still suspect we might see some interested parties pulling out when they get to the point of going through the finances.

To me, that just reads like a ‘nobody is fucking interested in buying the club, let’s post that there is and see if that draws out a buyer’ type post.

stoneroses19 · July 10

letthegoodtimesroll said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Looks like their takeover hopes are improving though.

I still suspect we might see some interested parties pulling out when they get to the point of going through the finances.

To me, that just reads like a ‘nobody is fucking interested in buying the club, let’s post that there is and see if that draws out a buyer’ type post.

Thought the same. Language is very on the fence, apart from saying knowledge of interested buyers, the rest is full of "could be", "a bit of", and "led to believe".

fenaddick · July 10

There are loads of people who will be interested because rich people weirdly love buying football clubs, what changes is when they enter due diligence and get a look at the books. The purchase itself will be expensive but they’re also going to have to pay off a lot of debts and assemble a new squad and coaching staff (almost all of Rohl’s staff no longer under contract). Whoever buys them is going to need seriously deep pockets

bolloxbolder · July 10

Braziliance said:

Football violence does make me laugh. It's essentially adulthood bullying.

Real fighters and people who are tough use that energy for something positive like professional fighting. Find it embarrassing when I hear stories of football fans getting attacked, proper weirdo/bully boy behaviour.

You can literally just go to any fight gym and there's a queue of people actively wanting to fight/spar if you enjoy fighting that much.

You are probably too young to realise that as a fan in the 60's to 90s, you took real pride in defending your end from opposition fans.

Weird and pathetic as it may sound, it meant a lot and personally I hated it when Millwall, Chelsea, Spurs and Wednesday took our beloved Covered End.

Chris_from_Sidcup · July 10

letthegoodtimesroll said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Looks like their takeover hopes are improving though.

I still suspect we might see some interested parties pulling out when they get to the point of going through the finances.

To me, that just reads like a ‘nobody is fucking interested in buying the club, let’s post that there is and see if that draws out a buyer’ type post.

Pretty naive to think that there is nobody interested in buying a Championship club the size of Sheffield Wednesday. Of course there will be interest.

As fenaddick says above though, the issues will be when they come to do due diligence.

Braziliance · July 10

bolloxbolder said:

Braziliance said:

Football violence does make me laugh. It's essentially adulthood bullying.

Real fighters and people who are tough use that energy for something positive like professional fighting. Find it embarrassing when I hear stories of football fans getting attacked, proper weirdo/bully boy behaviour.

You can literally just go to any fight gym and there's a queue of people actively wanting to fight/spar if you enjoy fighting that much.

You are probably too young to realise that as a fan in the 60's to 90s, you took real pride in defending your end from opposition fans.

Weird and pathetic as it may sound, it meant a lot and personally I hated it when Millwall, Chelsea, Spurs and Wednesday took our beloved Covered End.

Bit different though if you're part of a group that want to scrap and are both asking for it, I don't mind that.

I am specifically talking about groups who go and attack random football fans who want no part of it.

I would love to see 10 hooligans vs another 10 hooligans who want it, get them in the octagon, I'd commentate over that.

blackpool72 · July 10

Braziliance said:

bolloxbolder said:

Braziliance said:

Football violence does make me laugh. It's essentially adulthood bullying.

Real fighters and people who are tough use that energy for something positive like professional fighting. Find it embarrassing when I hear stories of football fans getting attacked, proper weirdo/bully boy behaviour.

You can literally just go to any fight gym and there's a queue of people actively wanting to fight/spar if you enjoy fighting that much.

You are probably too young to realise that as a fan in the 60's to 90s, you took real pride in defending your end from opposition fans.

Weird and pathetic as it may sound, it meant a lot and personally I hated it when Millwall, Chelsea, Spurs and Wednesday took our beloved Covered End.

Bit different though if you're part of a group that want to scrap and are both asking for it, I don't mind that.

I am specifically talking about groups who go and attack random football fans who want no part of it.

I would love to see 10 hooligans vs another 10 hooligans who want it, get them in the octagon, I'd commentate over that.

I'll have some of that even though I'm 70.

As long as it's against the palace black clad virgin ultras.

Isawsummersplay · July 10

Most football violence when I was growing up (I was born in 1953) was spontaneous. The advent of mobile technology changed this, and perhaps one of the most violent involving Charlton fans was what became known as ‘The Battle of Maze Hill’, when Southampton fans came of worse in a pre-arranged meet at Maze Hill railway station in the early 2000’s.

cafcfan · July 10

letthegoodtimesroll said:

I suspect they are fucked. Labour looking like it’s going to introduce a 2% wealth tax on assets of £10 million or more could well put the kibosh on buying a football club. Imagine owning a a club valued at £50 million that not only doesn’t pay any dividends but also actually costs you a small fortune to keep going each year and then being told you owe HMRC 2% of the the value of the asset. I doubt any club will get sold until there is more clarity of that particular tax.

I think you'll find that, like our club, any assets are bought and paid for through the vehicle of (at least one) offshore company. I assume the so-called wealth tax will only apply to individuals. Taxing companies at a rate of 2% of their net assets would very likely cause a complete collapse of the UK economy. (Enough companies are bailing out and listing on US exchanges anyway. If for no other reason than there is no stamp duty on share purchases in the US.) Not that I expect Rachel from Accountants to realise that.

ElfsborgAddick · July 10

blackpool72 said:

Braziliance said:

bolloxbolder said:

Braziliance said:

Football violence does make me laugh. It's essentially adulthood bullying.

Real fighters and people who are tough use that energy for something positive like professional fighting. Find it embarrassing when I hear stories of football fans getting attacked, proper weirdo/bully boy behaviour.

You can literally just go to any fight gym and there's a queue of people actively wanting to fight/spar if you enjoy fighting that much.

You are probably too young to realise that as a fan in the 60's to 90s, you took real pride in defending your end from opposition fans.

Weird and pathetic as it may sound, it meant a lot and personally I hated it when Millwall, Chelsea, Spurs and Wednesday took our beloved Covered End.

Bit different though if you're part of a group that want to scrap and are both asking for it, I don't mind that.

I am specifically talking about groups who go and attack random football fans who want no part of it.

I would love to see 10 hooligans vs another 10 hooligans who want it, get them in the octagon, I'd commentate over that.

I'll have some of that even though I'm 70.

As long as it's against the palace black clad virgin ultras.

Just think of them winning the cup to give them an extra hard kick in the nuts.

Covered End · July 10

letthegoodtimesroll said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Looks like their takeover hopes are improving though.

I still suspect we might see some interested parties pulling out when they get to the point of going through the finances.

To me, that just reads like a ‘nobody is fucking interested in buying the club, let’s post that there is and see if that draws out a buyer’ type post.

I can barely recall a football club purchase moving fast.

MarcusH26 · July 10

https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-danny-rohl-henrik-pedersen-5218286

Another twist. Sounds like the players don't want Danny Rohl to return now.

RC_CAFC · July 10

Very strange that they’re training at St George’s park. Are the FA doing them a favour because of the state of the club?

fenaddick · July 10

RC_CAFC said:

Very strange that they’re training at St George’s park. Are the FA doing them a favour because of the state of the club?

They’ve been doing work on the training ground

Swindon_Addick · July 11

cafcfan said:

letthegoodtimesroll said:

I suspect they are fucked. Labour looking like it’s going to introduce a 2% wealth tax on assets of £10 million or more could well put the kibosh on buying a football club. Imagine owning a a club valued at £50 million that not only doesn’t pay any dividends but also actually costs you a small fortune to keep going each year and then being told you owe HMRC 2% of the the value of the asset. I doubt any club will get sold until there is more clarity of that particular tax.

I think you'll find that, like our club, any assets are bought and paid for through the vehicle of (at least one) offshore company. I assume the so-called wealth tax will only apply to individuals. Taxing companies at a rate of 2% of their net assets would very likely cause a complete collapse of the UK economy. (Enough companies are bailing out and listing on US exchanges anyway. If for no other reason than there is no stamp duty on share purchases in the US.) Not that I expect Rachel from Accountants to realise that.

The wealth tax is a red herring - there are people on the left getting very excited about the idea, but fundamentally it's a Green Party proposal not a Labour one. If the sale takes so long that there's a change of government between now and the end f the process, a wealth tax will be the least of Wednesday's problems.

MarcusH26 · July 11

https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-dejphon-chansiri-takeover-5220701

Bid accepted , not sure who it's from yet. Textor mentioned along with the Houston Rockets owner Tillman Ferrita by Wednesday fans on Reddit

Fumbluff · July 11

Has textor actually flogged his crappy palace holding yet?

MarcusH26 · July 11

Fumbluff said:

Has textor actually flogged his crappy palace holding yet?

I believe it's awaiting PL confirmation etc with Woody Johnson

DyerConsequences · July 15

Djeidi Gassama has left Wednesday to join Glasgow Rangers for an undsiclosed fee.

TelMc32 · July 15

DyerConsequences said:

Djeidi Gassama has left Wednesday to join Glasgow Rangers for an undsiclosed fee.

£2.2m according to Rangers

sam3110 · July 15

Isn't today the day they can all walk for free if they handed their notice in?

MarcusH26 · July 15

Just announced their new home kit - £72 for the adult shirt 😳

Adults short sleeved: £72

Junior short sleeved: £55

Infant and baby full kit sets: £62

Henry Irving · July 15

MarcusH26 said:

Just announced their new home kit - £72 for the adult shirt 😳

Adults short sleeved: £72
Junior short sleeved: £55
Infant and baby full kit sets: £62

Do the players have to buy their own kit to save the club money?

Athletico Charlton · July 15

sam3110 said:

Isn't today the day they can all walk for free if they handed their notice in?

I suspect they use the Gassama fee to pay any players they wish to retain in full of the 6 that put in their notice which would block them from leaving. Then they sit and hope the takeover goes through.

Yorkshireaddick · July 15

Sir Chris not seen at the training ground for a while it seems

Sheffield Wednesday - players and staff paid late 2 months in a row (p7)

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