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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Seems too short to be a LCB and too slow to be  a LWB. Having played in the Prem, wont be cheap wages. I'd prefer a LCB with pace who will put MG on bench. Fawemo would have been my preference, or spend some money.  

    Manager Nathan Jones added: "Amari'i's someone I know well. I signed him at Luton and he did fantastically well for me. He knows how I want to play, he has Championship and Premier League experience, and he's a wonderful athlete with pace and power. He will add to the group and we're really delighted because left-sided centre-halves are very difficult to come by."

    What makes you believe he’s lost the pace he had?

    And why is 5 ft 11 too short to play LCB in a back 3? He’s played there for a few years now, if it was an issue it would have been a failed experiment and he’d have been moved back to LB/LWB. There will be more possession football in the Championship so I don’t see the need for all three CBs to be giants.

    He’s spent 6 of the last 7 years in the Championship, with the other season being in the PL, so the question for me is he still capable of playing consistently well at that level, rather than being too short and too slow.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    edited July 5
    Seems too short to be a LCB and too slow to be  a LWB. Having played in the Prem, wont be cheap wages. I'd prefer a LCB with pace who will put MG on bench. Fawemo would have been my preference, or spend some money.  
    Taller than both Kane Ramsay and Chris Perry. 
  • Yann897
    Yann897 Posts: 1,530
    Seems too short to be a LCB and too slow to be  a LWB. Having played in the Prem, wont be cheap wages. I'd prefer a LCB with pace who will put MG on bench. Fawemo would have been my preference, or spend some money.  
    How quick is he ?
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,032
    Scoham said:
    Seems too short to be a LCB and too slow to be  a LWB. Having played in the Prem, wont be cheap wages. I'd prefer a LCB with pace who will put MG on bench. Fawemo would have been my preference, or spend some money.  

    Manager Nathan Jones added: "Amari'i's someone I know well. I signed him at Luton and he did fantastically well for me. He knows how I want to play, he has Championship and Premier League experience, and he's a wonderful athlete with pace and power. He will add to the group and we're really delighted because left-sided centre-halves are very difficult to come by."

    What makes you believe he’s lost the pace he had?

    And why is 5 ft 11 too short to play LCB in a back 3? He’s played there for a few years now, if it was an issue it would have been a failed experiment and he’d have been moved back to LB/LWB. There will be more possession football in the Championship so I don’t see the need for all three CBs to be giants.

    He’s spent 6 of the last 7 years in the Championship, with the other season being in the PL, so the question for me is he still capable of playing consistently well at that level, rather than being too short and too slow.
    Let's also not forget in his last L1 season he made the team of the year and was a promotion winner at Blackburn 
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Richard J said:
    Scoham said:
    Seems too short to be a LCB and too slow to be  a LWB. Having played in the Prem, wont be cheap wages. I'd prefer a LCB with pace who will put MG on bench. Fawemo would have been my preference, or spend some money.  

    Manager Nathan Jones added: "Amari'i's someone I know well. I signed him at Luton and he did fantastically well for me. He knows how I want to play, he has Championship and Premier League experience, and he's a wonderful athlete with pace and power. He will add to the group and we're really delighted because left-sided centre-halves are very difficult to come by."

    What makes you believe he’s lost the pace he had?

    And why is 5 ft 11 too short to play LCB in a back 3? He’s played there for a few years now, if it was an issue it would have been a failed experiment and he’d have been moved back to LB/LWB. There will be more possession football in the Championship so I don’t see the need for all three CBs to be giants.

    He’s spent 6 of the last 7 years in the Championship, with the other season being in the PL, so the question for me is he still capable of playing consistently well at that level, rather than being too short and too slow.
    Let's also not forget in his last L1 season he made the team of the year and was a promotion winner at Blackburn 
    Proper footballer. He will be fine.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Seems too short to be a LCB and too slow to be  a LWB. Having played in the Prem, wont be cheap wages. I'd prefer a LCB with pace who will put MG on bench. Fawemo would have been my preference, or spend some money.  
    Taller than both Kane Ramsay and Chris Perry. 
    Ramsay’s 6 ft 1 on the OS, so I think other sources have probably got it wrong.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    Scoham said:
    Seems too short to be a LCB and too slow to be  a LWB. Having played in the Prem, wont be cheap wages. I'd prefer a LCB with pace who will put MG on bench. Fawemo would have been my preference, or spend some money.  
    Taller than both Kane Ramsay and Chris Perry. 
    Ramsay’s 6 ft 1 on the OS, so I think other sources have probably got it wrong.
    Fair enough. Although two inches doesn’t make that much difference. 

    At least that’s what Mrs Exiled assures me. 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    Major said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Feels like we're focusing on Championship experience this season, with a sprinkling of potential

    Said it a few times on the Expectations thread, we're not going to be exciting to watch, doubt we'll get plaudits from opposition fans for the way we play at times, expect us to be pretty gritty, but reckon we'll get the job done
    We’ve never been exciting to watch under Jones .  

    Our very own Eyeore:
    Eeyore is a fictional character in the Winnie-the-Pooh books by A. A. Milne. He is an old, grey stuffed donkey and friend of the title character, Winnie-the-Pooh. Eeyore is generally characterised as pessimistic, depressed, and anhedonic (the inability to experience pleasure from activities that would normally be enjoyable.)
    He also knows bugger all about football.
    If we are making it personal, excitement/  entertainment is subjective .  You might find the beano exciting , or drinking Fosters. I might not .  I don’t find Jones’ style of football entertaining but I was entertained that we ended up on a good run and excited that we went up.  To suggest I know bugger all about football is irrelevant to all of that - you might be right, you might be wrong. In an expression about excitement, I don’t think you can tell.   Thanks for reading “Major”. I assume you’re not John, or the guy out of Fawlty Towers .  
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,286
    Scoham said:
    Sounds like a role here where he won’t have to play every minute of every game will probably suit 
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  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    wmcf123 said:
    Major said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Feels like we're focusing on Championship experience this season, with a sprinkling of potential

    Said it a few times on the Expectations thread, we're not going to be exciting to watch, doubt we'll get plaudits from opposition fans for the way we play at times, expect us to be pretty gritty, but reckon we'll get the job done
    We’ve never been exciting to watch under Jones .  

    Our very own Eyeore:
    Eeyore is a fictional character in the Winnie-the-Pooh books by A. A. Milne. He is an old, grey stuffed donkey and friend of the title character, Winnie-the-Pooh. Eeyore is generally characterised as pessimistic, depressed, and anhedonic (the inability to experience pleasure from activities that would normally be enjoyable.)
    He also knows bugger all about football.
    If we are making it personal, excitement/  entertainment is subjective .  You might find the beano exciting , or drinking Fosters. I might not .  I don’t find Jones’ style of football entertaining but I was entertained that we ended up on a good run and excited that we went up.  To suggest I know bugger all about football is irrelevant to all of that - you might be right, you might be wrong. In an expression about excitement, I don’t think you can tell.   Thanks for reading “Major”. I assume you’re not John, or the guy out of Fawlty Towers .  
    Sticking to theme he is probably from Jungle Book. 😃
    Both classics that have met the test of time.

  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 386
    NabySarr said:
    Scoham said:
    Sounds like a role here where he won’t have to play every minute of every game will probably suit 
    If we sign Reece Burke it is difficult to see where Bell will get any minutes in any game. He will be third choice for LCB and a poor second choice for LWB, where I would hope to see Enslin displace him as the season goes on. 

    Just another "body in the building" as Bowyer would have said. and another Nathan Jones charitable old pals act to follow Allan Campbell, Potts and Hylton.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,055
    wolfgang said:
    NabySarr said:
    Scoham said:
    Sounds like a role here where he won’t have to play every minute of every game will probably suit 
    If we sign Reece Burke it is difficult to see where Bell will get any minutes in any game. He will be third choice for LCB and a poor second choice for LWB, where I would hope to see Enslin displace him as the season goes on. 

    Just another "body in the building" as Bowyer would have said. and another Nathan Jones charitable old pals act to follow Allan Campbell, Potts and Hylton.
    Burke is right footed so wouldn’t play LCB
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,171
    Scoham said:
    Seems too short to be a LCB and too slow to be  a LWB. Having played in the Prem, wont be cheap wages. I'd prefer a LCB with pace who will put MG on bench. Fawemo would have been my preference, or spend some money.  

    Manager Nathan Jones added: "Amari'i's someone I know well. I signed him at Luton and he did fantastically well for me. He knows how I want to play, he has Championship and Premier League experience, and he's a wonderful athlete with pace and power. He will add to the group and we're really delighted because left-sided centre-halves are very difficult to come by."

    What makes you believe he’s lost the pace he had?

    And why is 5 ft 11 too short to play LCB in a back 3? He’s played there for a few years now, if it was an issue it would have been a failed experiment and he’d have been moved back to LB/LWB. There will be more possession football in the Championship so I don’t see the need for all three CBs to be giants.

    He’s spent 6 of the last 7 years in the Championship, with the other season being in the PL, so the question for me is he still capable of playing consistently well at that level, rather than being too short and too slow.
    That Cesar Azpilicueta was only 5ft10 and what did he ever achieve playing at CB in a back 3? Premier League, Champions League, Europa League, FA Cup, Super Cup, Club World Cup? Oh.
  • crookester
    crookester Posts: 1,328
    wolfgang said:
    NabySarr said:
    Scoham said:
    Sounds like a role here where he won’t have to play every minute of every game will probably suit 
    If we sign Reece Burke it is difficult to see where Bell will get any minutes in any game. He will be third choice for LCB and a poor second choice for LWB, where I would hope to see Enslin displace him as the season goes on. 

    Just another "body in the building" as Bowyer would have said. and another Nathan Jones charitable old pals act to follow Allan Campbell, Potts and Hylton.
    As I understand it, Bell plays LCH or LWB and Burke play RCH or RWB (probably more right back than wing back)
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    Scoham said:
    Seems too short to be a LCB and too slow to be  a LWB. Having played in the Prem, wont be cheap wages. I'd prefer a LCB with pace who will put MG on bench. Fawemo would have been my preference, or spend some money.  

    Manager Nathan Jones added: "Amari'i's someone I know well. I signed him at Luton and he did fantastically well for me. He knows how I want to play, he has Championship and Premier League experience, and he's a wonderful athlete with pace and power. He will add to the group and we're really delighted because left-sided centre-halves are very difficult to come by."

    What makes you believe he’s lost the pace he had?

    And why is 5 ft 11 too short to play LCB in a back 3? He’s played there for a few years now, if it was an issue it would have been a failed experiment and he’d have been moved back to LB/LWB. There will be more possession football in the Championship so I don’t see the need for all three CBs to be giants.

    He’s spent 6 of the last 7 years in the Championship, with the other season being in the PL, so the question for me is he still capable of playing consistently well at that level, rather than being too short and too slow.
    That Cesar Azpilicueta was only 5ft10 and what did he ever achieve playing at CB in a back 3? Premier League, Champions League, Europa League, FA Cup, Super Cup, Club World Cup? Oh.
    Bit of cherry picking there. Picked arguably one of the best defenders of that profile. May as well say Puyol, Cannavaro, Baresi etc while you're at it. 

    It is far more likely you will be a good centre back if you are over 6 foot than under, that is a statistical fact. 

    Azpilicueta and other special defenders of that profile are an extreme comparison.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,622
    Christ on a bike
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    Scoham said:
    Seems too short to be a LCB and too slow to be  a LWB. Having played in the Prem, wont be cheap wages. I'd prefer a LCB with pace who will put MG on bench. Fawemo would have been my preference, or spend some money.  

    Manager Nathan Jones added: "Amari'i's someone I know well. I signed him at Luton and he did fantastically well for me. He knows how I want to play, he has Championship and Premier League experience, and he's a wonderful athlete with pace and power. He will add to the group and we're really delighted because left-sided centre-halves are very difficult to come by."

    What makes you believe he’s lost the pace he had?

    And why is 5 ft 11 too short to play LCB in a back 3? He’s played there for a few years now, if it was an issue it would have been a failed experiment and he’d have been moved back to LB/LWB. There will be more possession football in the Championship so I don’t see the need for all three CBs to be giants.

    He’s spent 6 of the last 7 years in the Championship, with the other season being in the PL, so the question for me is he still capable of playing consistently well at that level, rather than being too short and too slow.
    That Cesar Azpilicueta was only 5ft10 and what did he ever achieve playing at CB in a back 3? Premier League, Champions League, Europa League, FA Cup, Super Cup, Club World Cup? Oh.
    Bit of cherry picking there. Picked arguably one of the best defenders of that profile. May as well say Puyol, Cannavaro, Baresi etc while you're at it. 

    It is far more likely you will be a good centre back if you are over 6 foot than under, that is a statistical fact. 

    Azpilicueta and other special defenders of that profile are an extreme comparison.
    Although easier in play in a back 3 as a shorter player than a back 4, especially as one of the three is likely to be a fullback .  
  • cblock
    cblock Posts: 1,959
    Christ on a bike
    Not good on crosses.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    wmcf123 said:
    Scoham said:
    Seems too short to be a LCB and too slow to be  a LWB. Having played in the Prem, wont be cheap wages. I'd prefer a LCB with pace who will put MG on bench. Fawemo would have been my preference, or spend some money.  

    Manager Nathan Jones added: "Amari'i's someone I know well. I signed him at Luton and he did fantastically well for me. He knows how I want to play, he has Championship and Premier League experience, and he's a wonderful athlete with pace and power. He will add to the group and we're really delighted because left-sided centre-halves are very difficult to come by."

    What makes you believe he’s lost the pace he had?

    And why is 5 ft 11 too short to play LCB in a back 3? He’s played there for a few years now, if it was an issue it would have been a failed experiment and he’d have been moved back to LB/LWB. There will be more possession football in the Championship so I don’t see the need for all three CBs to be giants.

    He’s spent 6 of the last 7 years in the Championship, with the other season being in the PL, so the question for me is he still capable of playing consistently well at that level, rather than being too short and too slow.
    That Cesar Azpilicueta was only 5ft10 and what did he ever achieve playing at CB in a back 3? Premier League, Champions League, Europa League, FA Cup, Super Cup, Club World Cup? Oh.
    Bit of cherry picking there. Picked arguably one of the best defenders of that profile. May as well say Puyol, Cannavaro, Baresi etc while you're at it. 

    It is far more likely you will be a good centre back if you are over 6 foot than under, that is a statistical fact. 

    Azpilicueta and other special defenders of that profile are an extreme comparison.
    Although easier in play in a back 3 as a shorter player than a back 4, especially as one of the three is likely to be a fullback .  
    It definitely is, look at Ramsay. 

    It's just a bit of a stretch to use arguably one of the best defenders of all time, at least in the modern era as a comparison. 

    Most times, you need to be over 6 foot to be a succesful centre back, same as a goalkeeper. Unfortunately genetics play a huge part in these positions, most of the time.
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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,055
    Ramsay is over 6ft! Club website (who would know) has him at 6ft1, you can also see that with your own eyes when he stands next to others 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    edited July 6
    Ramsay isn't 6 foot. I've stood right next to him. If he is 6 foot 1 then I am actually 6'5 and been measured wrong as I am 185cm (just shy of 6 foot 1)

    I would say he is about 5'9 or thereabouts. 
  • Yann897
    Yann897 Posts: 1,530
    Ramsay isn't 6 foot. I've stood right next to him. If he is 6 foot 1 then I am actually 6'5 and been measured wrong. 

    I would say he is about 5'9 or thereabouts. 
    I know you love to double down and argue but why would our website lie about his height, Iv stood near him and would have said he’s around 6ft.
  • Yann897
    Yann897 Posts: 1,530
    Tallest 5’9 person Iv ever seen.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    Yann897 said:
    Ramsay isn't 6 foot. I've stood right next to him. If he is 6 foot 1 then I am actually 6'5 and been measured wrong. 

    I would say he is about 5'9 or thereabouts. 
    I know you love to double down and argue but why would our website lie about his height, Iv stood near him and would have said he’s around 6ft.
    "I know you love to double down" 

    No, I just correct bollocks 😂

    It's good news for me if he is 6'1 cause I can add a few inches on myself. 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    edited July 6
    Yann897 said:
    Tallest 5’9 person Iv ever seen.
    Not one of them is standing up straight. Macca is just about 6'2, Lloydy is around 6'3/4, I said around 5'9 for Kayne, so it's likely he is around 5'10 based on that pic. 

    Also the fact that I have been officially measured at 185cm and stood right next to him, so know he isn’t that height. 😂
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,055
    Doesn’t matter hugely at the end of the day, both the club website and Braziliance have been wrong before, as we all have. 

    Not convinced Bell is a guaranteed starter anyway 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    fenaddick said:
    Doesn’t matter hugely at the end of the day, both the club website and Braziliance have been wrong before, as we all have. 

    Not convinced Bell is a guaranteed starter anyway 
    Bizarre. 

    You were the one who said what the site said and presented it as fact, I am telling you the site is wrong and so are your eyes. He is billed as 5'9/5'10 anywhere else. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,055
    fenaddick said:
    Doesn’t matter hugely at the end of the day, both the club website and Braziliance have been wrong before, as we all have. 

    Not convinced Bell is a guaranteed starter anyway 
    Bizarre. 

    You were the one who said what the site said and presented it as fact, I am telling you the site is wrong and so are your eyes. He is billed as 5'9/5'10 anywhere else. 
    I said it before you said you’d stood next to him, I then took that as face value. Either you or the club is wrong, that’s an indisputable fact. It doesn’t matter too much to me because I don’t think his height is effecting his defending, or his attacking at corners for that matter. I was just trying to get the thread back on topic mainly 
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,769
    edited July 6
    Yann897 said:
    Tallest 5’9 person Iv ever seen.
    Cause of AI you can't see the orange box he is standing on 😁