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  • adamtheaddick
    adamtheaddick Posts: 8,664
    you can eat swan pies at half time
  • Saga Lout
    Saga Lout Posts: 6,845
    I think we should now change our name to Charlton Palace...


    I'll get me coat!
  • adamtheaddick
    adamtheaddick Posts: 8,664
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    "and now maam, you just have to select a username"
    "One very much awfully likes the name Valleystorm200"
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,350
    Rayner refuses to save historic beer garden in Greenwich
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    Pretty ridiculous headline. It's not a historic pub garden, it's extra tables they have put on a public path.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,350
    Croydon said:
    Pretty ridiculous headline. It's not a historic pub garden, it's extra tables they have put on a public path.
    I didn't know that, not been to the Trafalgar for many years
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,055
    edited July 1
    Croydon said:
    Pretty ridiculous headline. It's not a historic pub garden, it's extra tables they have put on a public path.
    Absolutely. The pub is historic, but not the Thames Pathway that they have commandeered for their own use. 
    That said, I actually think RBG should work with them and find a way to make this work. There’s more space around where the tables / benches are than further on as you head towards the Cutty Sark, centre of Greenwich. If people can navigate that part, then the pub area should be fine. 
    And in reality, it’s not like this is a year round issue. Although with this climate warming…🥵 😉
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,450
    The pub owner is certainly milking the publicity implying it's their bit of land.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,890
    It was on BBC News I think the other day. 

    It does feel like the council are being petty / awkward when there isn’t an obvious issue. 
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,450
    valleynick66 said:
    It was on BBC News I think the other day. 

    It does feel like the council are being petty / awkward when there isn’t an obvious issue. 
    It's not the pub's land so I'm not really clear why they can commandeer it?
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  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,890
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    valleynick66 said:
    It was on BBC News I think the other day. 

    It does feel like the council are being petty / awkward when there isn’t an obvious issue. 
    It's not the pub's land so I'm not really clear why they can commandeer it?
    I think the point being made was the pub was using it successfully without issue. The customers like it and no real issue was created. 

    Pavement eating / drinking when many businesses struggle is not a bad thing generally I’d say. 

    Sometimes a bit of common sense just works. 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,350
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    valleynick66 said:
    It was on BBC News I think the other day. 

    It does feel like the council are being petty / awkward when there isn’t an obvious issue. 
    It's not the pub's land so I'm not really clear why they can commandeer it?
    squatter's rights/adverse possession ?
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,450
    valleynick66 said:
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    valleynick66 said:
    It was on BBC News I think the other day. 

    It does feel like the council are being petty / awkward when there isn’t an obvious issue. 
    It's not the pub's land so I'm not really clear why they can commandeer it?
    I think the point being made was the pub was using it successfully without issue. The customers like it and no real issue was created. 

    Pavement eating / drinking when many businesses struggle is not a bad thing generally I’d say. 

    Sometimes a bit of common sense just works. 
    I assume they are wary of creating a precedent and there are some issues re access at busy times - it does get blocked. 
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,648
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    valleynick66 said:
    It was on BBC News I think the other day. 

    It does feel like the council are being petty / awkward when there isn’t an obvious issue. 
    It's not the pub's land so I'm not really clear why they can commandeer it?
    Frank the Yank will commandeer anything he can to make him money 
  • Dansk_Red
    Dansk_Red Posts: 5,727
    Notice when being shown on BBC News that a number cyclist illegally using the footpath, which are few people commented on. 
  • Steven81
    Steven81 Posts: 999
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    The pub owner is certainly milking the publicity implying it's their bit of land.
    Just like they Milk the price of a pint that pub takes the piss.
  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 1,676
    Great pub in the day, and many a decent party upstairs.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,485
    Baldybonce said:
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    valleynick66 said:
    It was on BBC News I think the other day. 

    It does feel like the council are being petty / awkward when there isn’t an obvious issue. 
    It's not the pub's land so I'm not really clear why they can commandeer it?
    Frank the Yank will commandeer anything he can to make him money 
    Is the Globe Rowing Club still going, @Baldybonce
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,633
    Gribbo said:
    Baldybonce said:
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    valleynick66 said:
    It was on BBC News I think the other day. 

    It does feel like the council are being petty / awkward when there isn’t an obvious issue. 
    It's not the pub's land so I'm not really clear why they can commandeer it?
    Frank the Yank will commandeer anything he can to make him money 
    Is the Globe Rowing Club still going, @Baldybonce
    Heard it’s been going backwards for years.
  • stop_shouting
    stop_shouting Posts: 3,680
    Beautiful historic building but had a horrific pint of guiness before the Lincoln game. Ridiculous decision but essentially a pub for the tourists. 
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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,225
    Arranged the 10th anniversary of the St Andrews play-off game there.

    Gawd, that was an age ago
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,342
    Henry Irving said:
    Arranged the 10th anniversary of the St Andrews play-off game there.

    Gawd, that was an age ago
    Player of the Year was also held there the year before
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,452
    https://greenwichwire.co.uk/2025/06/30/greenwich-ltn-fines-income/

    Greenwich Council has made £2.5 million from its low-traffic neighbourhood

  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,039
    valleynick66 said:
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    valleynick66 said:
    It was on BBC News I think the other day. 

    It does feel like the council are being petty / awkward when there isn’t an obvious issue. 
    It's not the pub's land so I'm not really clear why they can commandeer it?
    I think the point being made was the pub was using it successfully without issue. The customers like it and no real issue was created. 

    Pavement eating / drinking when many businesses struggle is not a bad thing generally I’d say. 

    Sometimes a bit of common sense just works. 
    It is an issue, I regularly walk along there and the pubs appropriation of the path isn’t ok. It’s theft pure and simple of something that isn’t theirs.
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,333
    Had my wedding reception at the Trafalgar…the tables outside don’t seem to interfere with the walkway…it’s lovely to see people enjoying the weather outside on those tables…shame 
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,333
    PrincessFiona said:
    https://greenwichwire.co.uk/2025/06/30/greenwich-ltn-fines-income/

    Greenwich Council has made £2.5 million from its low-traffic neighbourhood

    This is fucking bullshit my 89 year old father got 2 fines of £65 driving down at John’s park road in Blackheath…I don’t live in Uk anymore but what with the cameras congestion charges and speed bumps it’s a nightmare driving in London. 
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,648
    Gribbo said:
    Baldybonce said:
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    valleynick66 said:
    It was on BBC News I think the other day. 

    It does feel like the council are being petty / awkward when there isn’t an obvious issue. 
    It's not the pub's land so I'm not really clear why they can commandeer it?
    Frank the Yank will commandeer anything he can to make him money 
    Is the Globe Rowing Club still going, @Baldybonce
    Yes it is.
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,452
    ct_addick said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    https://greenwichwire.co.uk/2025/06/30/greenwich-ltn-fines-income/

    Greenwich Council has made £2.5 million from its low-traffic neighbourhood

    This is fucking bullshit my 89 year old father got 2 fines of £65 driving down at John’s park road in Blackheath…I don’t live in Uk anymore but what with the cameras congestion charges and speed bumps it’s a nightmare driving in London. 
    You mean the decision by Greenwich council not the article reporting how much they have made?
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,890
    iainment said:
    valleynick66 said:
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    valleynick66 said:
    It was on BBC News I think the other day. 

    It does feel like the council are being petty / awkward when there isn’t an obvious issue. 
    It's not the pub's land so I'm not really clear why they can commandeer it?
    I think the point being made was the pub was using it successfully without issue. The customers like it and no real issue was created. 

    Pavement eating / drinking when many businesses struggle is not a bad thing generally I’d say. 

    Sometimes a bit of common sense just works. 
    It is an issue, I regularly walk along there and the pubs appropriation of the path isn’t ok. It’s theft pure and simple of something that isn’t theirs.
    The BBC news item presented it as not really creating a problem for anyone. 

    Is that false?
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,648
    There's no doubt the extra seating creates a bottleneck on busy weekends. It's an area where people have always stood to admire the view in both directions.
    The owner also has form for appropriating areas that are not his. He's done it with his previous pubs which is probably why the council are not being very sympathetic.

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