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Nathan Jones speculation - Cawley says indications are no chance Jones going to Cardiff (p20)
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valleynick66 said:Airman Brown said:Woodwork said:Danny Addick said:RC_CAFC said:There’s no way Jones has spent the last 18 months, working his nuts off to restore his reputation and get himself back into the championship to go straight back into league one for anyone.Can we have the football back please 🙏Not saying this is what is happening, but making the point that nothing is impossible in football. The wage budget is currently at least less than half every other team in the Championship. Without significant investment, Charlton could come straight back down. Whereas, he could lead Cardiff City straight back up & have double or more his current budget when back in the Championship.He certainly doesn’t lack belief in his abilities. But is pretty fragile ego wise. He may think the season could be a struggle & Charlton fans will quickly be on his back again. Whereas at Cardiff City he could play the home boy hero turning the club around.Again, not saying that is the case at all. But it’s what the post on the Plymouth forum suggests (oh the irony 😂). And nothing would surprise me in football. Nothing.2
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Where’s all this “he’s got a bad budget for next season” come from other than fake in the know merchants?16
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I’d be surprised if NJ left now, even for his boyhood club Cardiff. He’s just got out of League One, can’t see him wanting to go back there so soon. Add in the fact Tan is a twat too. At Charlton he’s got the autonomy he wants, he’s in charge. And he keeps banging on about us all buying into the project, a project that doesn’t end with just getting out of League One.
What this may do is actually strengthen his hand with the owners and the budget may be increased to head off any interest. Either way I think he’s not going anywhere.7 -
Pelling1993 said:Where’s all this “he’s got a bad budget for next season” come from other than fake in the know merchants?2
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Pelling1993 said:Where’s all this “he’s got a bad budget for next season” come from other than fake in the know merchants?14
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Alll about the budget1
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Braziliance said:Even though I think it would be a backwards move, and it would be ridiculous after what he has achieved. If he is approached and they are willing to pay, he's gone imo.
He has left Luton twice with arguably more of a connection to them than us for better opportunities and if he's a man of his word, he would leave for Cardiff, hard to ignore this quote.I think from his comments recently he’ll stay regardless.
Their owner is a looney and he learned a lot from his Southampton and stoke experience0 -
northstandsteve said:Alll about the dudget13
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Nathan wants a lean squad, he gets a lean squad.Nathan wants Chapple to head up a new recruitment team, Chapple joins.Nathan wants Hylton as part of his coaching staff for next season, Hylton joins his coaching staff.Nathan wants to be back in the Championship and gets there at his first attempt with us.Cardiff…nope, doesn’t fit!17
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Can someone explain the logic of how if he left us he’d be on a fatter wedge in league one than with us on a championship wage? Especially as the Cardiff owner’s a notorious cheapskate these days.2
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I'm actually struggling to think of a manager that has EVER dropped down a division having just been promoted? Has it happened before?
Given his previous experiences of jumping ship when in a good job, it would be absolutely mind boggling for Nathan Jones to take the Cardiff job. As we are only too aware getting out of League One is horrendously difficult, and to subject yourself to that again, having only just miraculously completed that task would take sado-masochism to a whole new level.
With Luton and Plymouth joining the likes of Stockport, Reading, Leyton Orient, Huddersfield, Bolton and Wycombe there is no doubt that it will be the dirtiest of dog fights getting out of that little lot, and for a manager that is undoubtedly ambitious to get back to the higher levels of the game, taking a backward step in your early 50's would be kamikaze to say the least,5 -
Braziliance said:fenaddick said:Not impossible he’s trying to put a bit of pressure on owners for more of a transfer kitty either
On the other hand, Nathan Jones said to a fan that "we're fackin loaded".
Never a boring day at Charlton.)
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I hope that ‘no chance whatsoever that he’s leaving’ isn’t the new ‘relax - everyone who wants a ticket will get one’.14
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How can he? God is on our side!
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Enter the summer silly season ! No football, just transfer and manager speculation, so here we go 2 months of, who may come & who may leave.....One person i can't see moving is Nathan. Not to Vincent Tans Cardiff thats for sure, an owner who really understands the fans turning Cardiff blue kit to a red kit?Nathan maybe a nutter but he's not mad? It would be a real step backwards to take one step up with Charlton and two steps back to drop back into League One with Cardiff, which will be even tougher next season to escape from.Nathan has repeatedly said he sees Charlton as a project, knows the potential and has a board, players and fan base who are behind him. I would hope that those close to him say he jumped ship in the past to "bigger" clubs and boy did he get bitten. Charlton are a club that have shown in the past through Lennie Lawrence and Alan curbishley that they will support a manager over the long term. I also think its a really dumb thing to manage the club you support, why be emotionally invested, its a job. I have worked with a number of football clubs and would never want to work with Charlton, why spoil one's relationship with the club you support.2
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I reckon Cardiff are after Richie Wellens. Pat me on the back next week when he's appointed.
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‘The budget’ a thing that’s living rent free in peoples head already
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We haven’t even been a Championship club for one week and already the world is ending.15
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Nobody knows what the budget is. It seems to me Jones has a close relationship with the owners and when we were struggling he asked them to trust him and back him and they did. We are clearly not going to have the biggest budget in the Championship but the intention is surely to get out of it from the top end or else why buy the club? I would expect the budget to factor in Jones' abilities but give him a realistic chance of working his magic.
He will probably have his chance of managing Cardiff down the line, but the time is clearly not now. If Jones was at another club, he may well have been sacked in December and then Charlton would just be an addition to his failures. He was given time and used it brilliantly but his failures, Stoke and Southampton, he wasn't given time and the question has to be asked, would he have turned things round if he was. I think probably. Basically, he is smart enough to know that he has to see the project through. He has momentum and some great young players as a platform.
All of this speculation is probably a good thing, as it is a reminder that we can't go into the Championship with a Roland mindset.4 -
How has this made 7 pages.
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Look, he’s not going to Cardiff. Look, he’s taking Charlton to the Premier League.5
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Raith_C_Chattonell said:How can he? God is on our side!3
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brownbear said:I'm actually struggling to think of a manager that has EVER dropped down a division having just been promoted? Has it happened before?
Given his previous experiences of jumping ship when in a good job, it would be absolutely mind boggling for Nathan Jones to take the Cardiff job. As we are only too aware getting out of League One is horrendously difficult, and to subject yourself to that again, having only just miraculously completed that task would take sado-masochism to a whole new level.
With Luton and Plymouth joining the likes of Stockport, Reading, Leyton Orient, Huddersfield, Bolton and Wycombe there is no doubt that it will be the dirtiest of dog fights getting out of that little lot, and for a manager that is undoubtedly ambitious to get back to the higher levels of the game, taking a backward step in your early 50's would be kamikaze to say the least,1 -
RC_CAFC said:brownbear said:I'm actually struggling to think of a manager that has EVER dropped down a division having just been promoted? Has it happened before?
Given his previous experiences of jumping ship when in a good job, it would be absolutely mind boggling for Nathan Jones to take the Cardiff job. As we are only too aware getting out of League One is horrendously difficult, and to subject yourself to that again, having only just miraculously completed that task would take sado-masochism to a whole new level.
With Luton and Plymouth joining the likes of Stockport, Reading, Leyton Orient, Huddersfield, Bolton and Wycombe there is no doubt that it will be the dirtiest of dog fights getting out of that little lot, and for a manager that is undoubtedly ambitious to get back to the higher levels of the game, taking a backward step in your early 50's would be kamikaze to say the least,0 -
brownbear said:I'm actually struggling to think of a manager that has EVER dropped down a division having just been promoted? Has it happened before?
Given his previous experiences of jumping ship when in a good job, it would be absolutely mind boggling for Nathan Jones to take the Cardiff job. As we are only too aware getting out of League One is horrendously difficult, and to subject yourself to that again, having only just miraculously completed that task would take sado-masochism to a whole new level.
With Luton and Plymouth joining the likes of Stockport, Reading, Leyton Orient, Huddersfield, Bolton and Wycombe there is no doubt that it will be the dirtiest of dog fights getting out of that little lot, and for a manager that is undoubtedly ambitious to get back to the higher levels of the game, taking a backward step in your early 50's would be kamikaze to say the least,
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Next season there are 4 Championship clubs with parachute money, one is Leicester who have all sorts of FFP issues; one is Sheffield United who's parachute payments have just massively reduced having missed the jump straight back up and will need to sell.
There is a chance for a team without those parachute payments to go up. Why not us...
Or NJ can go to Cardiff and play Burton and Doncaster.
It isn't happening and if it did then I would question his decision making so much I would be happy he isn't here any more!5 -
Mendonca In Asdas said:6
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Stu_of_Kunming said:How has this made 7 pages.
Utter madness.5 -
ShootersHillGuru said:Stu_of_Kunming said:How has this made 7 pages.
Utter madness.0
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