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Nathan Jones speculation - Cawley says indications are no chance Jones going to Cardiff (p20)

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  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,236
    edited May 31
    covered_end_junior said:
    I’ve no doubt the interest is there from Cardiff and if they stayed up I’d be 50/50 on whether he’d go there or not.

    With them in league 1 though I can’t really see it happening. Plymouth is a complete non starter. 
    In his mind, he wouldn't be going to manage a Club in League 1 though, he'd be going to manage his club, Cardiff, and would back himself to get them promoted at the first attempt. That's my best guess. 

    He wouldn't be hated if we continue progressing as a club without him. Past villains have become hated because of the consequences of their decisions. I think we'll continue on an upward path now with or without Jones. We're not bobbing for Apples in the Championship now are we? 
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,761
    There’s no way Jones has spent the last 18 months, working his nuts off to restore his reputation and get himself back into the championship to go straight back into league one for anyone. 

    Can we have the football back please 🙏 
  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 3,933
    RC_CAFC said:
    There’s no way Jones has spent the last 18 months, working his nuts off to restore his reputation and get himself back into the championship to go straight back into league one for anyone. 

    Can we have the football back please 🙏 
    Would be very strange indeed. 
  • Woodwork
    Woodwork Posts: 423
    Danny Addick said:
    RC_CAFC said:
    There’s no way Jones has spent the last 18 months, working his nuts off to restore his reputation and get himself back into the championship to go straight back into league one for anyone. 

    Can we have the football back please 🙏 
    Would be very strange indeed. 
    Not if he sees the writing on the wall. 

    Not saying this is what is happening, but making the point that nothing is impossible in football. The wage budget is currently at least less than half every other team in the Championship. Without significant investment, Charlton could come straight back down. Whereas, he could lead Cardiff City straight back up & have double or more his current budget when back in the Championship. 

    He certainly doesn’t lack belief in his abilities. But is pretty fragile ego wise. He may think the season could be a struggle & Charlton fans will quickly be on his back again. Whereas at Cardiff City he could play the home boy hero turning the club around. 

    Again, not saying that is the case at all. But it’s what the post on the Plymouth forum suggests (oh the irony 😂). And nothing would surprise me in football. Nothing. 
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,761
    Woodwork said:
    Danny Addick said:
    RC_CAFC said:
    There’s no way Jones has spent the last 18 months, working his nuts off to restore his reputation and get himself back into the championship to go straight back into league one for anyone. 

    Can we have the football back please 🙏 
    Would be very strange indeed. 
    Not if he sees the writing on the wall. 

    Not saying this is what is happening, but making the point that nothing is impossible in football. The wage budget is currently at least less than half every other team in the Championship. Without significant investment, Charlton could come straight back down. Whereas, he could lead Cardiff City straight back up & have double or more his current budget when back in the Championship. 

    He certainly doesn’t lack belief in his abilities. But is pretty fragile ego wise. He may think the season could be a struggle & Charlton fans will quickly be on his back again. Whereas at Cardiff City he could play the home boy hero turning the club around. 

    Again, not saying that is the case at all. But it’s what the post on the Plymouth forum suggests (oh the irony 😂). And nothing would surprise me in football. Nothing. 
    Jones knows only too well from his time with Luton and Stoke, that a small budget doesn’t guarantee failure just as a big one doesn’t guarantee success. 

    He also knows that Cardiff are run by a basket case of an owner. Where as we’re finally being run by people who are actually making sensible decisions.
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,664
    Valley11 said:
    A little more context perhaps, from an ex pro


    Always wanted us to sign Lee Trundle.
  • Woodwork
    Woodwork Posts: 423
    edited May 31
    RC_CAFC said:
    Woodwork said:
    Danny Addick said:
    RC_CAFC said:
    There’s no way Jones has spent the last 18 months, working his nuts off to restore his reputation and get himself back into the championship to go straight back into league one for anyone. 

    Can we have the football back please 🙏 
    Would be very strange indeed. 
    Not if he sees the writing on the wall. 

    Not saying this is what is happening, but making the point that nothing is impossible in football. The wage budget is currently at least less than half every other team in the Championship. Without significant investment, Charlton could come straight back down. Whereas, he could lead Cardiff City straight back up & have double or more his current budget when back in the Championship. 

    He certainly doesn’t lack belief in his abilities. But is pretty fragile ego wise. He may think the season could be a struggle & Charlton fans will quickly be on his back again. Whereas at Cardiff City he could play the home boy hero turning the club around. 

    Again, not saying that is the case at all. But it’s what the post on the Plymouth forum suggests (oh the irony 😂). And nothing would surprise me in football. Nothing. 
    Jones knows only too well from his time with Luton and Stoke, that a small budget doesn’t guarantee failure just as a big one doesn’t guarantee success. 

    He also knows that Cardiff are run by a basket case of an owner. Where as we’re finally being run by people who are actually making sensible decisions.

    Indeed. I think that will be in his thinking. But I think Cardiff City is a lure for him & so people can convince themselves of anything if they want something bad enough, ie Jones may think he is the one to turn his hometown club around, despite Tan. 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,005
    Mendonca In Asdas said:
    Valley11 said:
    A little more context perhaps, from an ex pro


    Always wanted us to sign Lee Trundle.

  • dickad1
    dickad1 Posts: 263
    Braziliance said:
    Have we considered the involvement of AI?
    Al Curbishley? 

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  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,822
    I do have to admire the sheer twichiness of some, and the ability to believe any old bullshit on that cesspit of a site 
  • Marriott110
    Marriott110 Posts: 1,528
    edited May 31
    Too much stock into ''they're his boyhood club'' talk I think, for managers and players alike this is a job, and even if Cardiff would pay more (which I doubt) it's a huge backwards step to work for a known loon with a twitchy trigger finger, or he can stay where he has built for 16 months, has multiple players he's worked with before in the door and now multiple staff members in Chappell and Hylton

    just bollocks from twitter with no substance IMO 
  • Red_Chester
    Red_Chester Posts: 751
    Valley11 said:
    Mendonca In Asdas said:
    Valley11 said:
    A little more context perhaps, from an ex pro


    Always wanted us to sign Lee Trundle.

    Even their own fans are saying he doesn’t have a clue 
  • altrinchamaddick
    altrinchamaddick Posts: 943
    I can't believe the comments on here. Get a grip, Jones is going NOWHERE. He'll be Charlton's manager at the start of next season. The ownership believe in him, the players believe in him and now the supporters believe in him. All this bedwetting on him going to Cardiff are just rumours and inuendo. He has built a team in his image and I'm sure he want's to ccontinue the journey with Charlton.
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,664
    edited May 31
    altrinchamaddick said:
    I can't believe the comments on here. Get a grip, Jones is going NOWHERE. He'll be Charlton's manager at the start of next season. The ownership believe in him, the players believe in him and now the supporters believe in him. All this bedwetting on him going to Cardiff are just rumours and inuendo. He has built a team in his image and I'm sure he want's to ccontinue the journey with Charlton.
    Well put, the voice of reason, 1/2 terms not finished yet!
  • Woodwork
    Woodwork Posts: 423
    altrinchamaddick said:
    I can't believe the comments on here. Get a grip, Jones is going NOWHERE. He'll be Charlton's manager at the start of next season. The ownership believe in him, the players believe in him and now the supporters believe in him. All this bedwetting on him going to Cardiff are just rumours and inuendo. He has built a team in his image and I'm sure he want's to ccontinue the journey with Charlton.

  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,499
    Marriott110 said:
    Too much stock into ''they're his boyhood club'' talk I think, for managers and players alike this is a job, and even if Cardiff would pay more (which I doubt) it's a huge backwards step to work for a known loon with a twitchy trigger finger, or he can stay where he has built for 16 months, has multiple players he's worked with before in the door and now multiple staff members in Chappell and Hylton

    just bollocks from twitter with no substance IMO 
     I reckon it's got some legs. And by that I mean a Cardiff approach.
    Why wouldn't they? They're in the shit. He's from down the road and has been quoted as wanting the job at some point in his career.

    Whether he entertains the idea is a whole other matter.
    Personally think no chance.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,256
    Braziliance said:
    Have we considered the involvement of AI?
    He’s 14/1
  • PWADDICK
    PWADDICK Posts: 526
    Not a chance he leaves us for Argyle, smaller club who ultimately don’t have the same ambition as us. Cardiff is a different question, bigger club and he’s obviously a fan, but he would ultimately be working for a crack pot owner in a lower division.
  • Killarahales
    Killarahales Posts: 1,064
    Not worried in the least.

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  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 701
    Red_Chester said:
    Valley11 said:
    Mendonca In Asdas said:
    Valley11 said:
    A little more context perhaps, from an ex pro


    Always wanted us to sign Lee Trundle.

    Even their own fans are saying he doesn’t have a clue 
    He’s not a fan, He’s a Swansea’s ambassador that’s like a Millwall fan saying why the hell would Jones want to manager Charlton they’re tiny or some bs like that. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,822
    Crispywood said:
    Red_Chester said:
    Valley11 said:
    Mendonca In Asdas said:
    Valley11 said:
    A little more context perhaps, from an ex pro


    Always wanted us to sign Lee Trundle.

    Even their own fans are saying he doesn’t have a clue 
    He’s not a fan, He’s a Swansea’s ambassador that’s like a Millwall fan saying why the hell would Jones want to manager Charlton they’re tiny or some bs like that. 
    Not talking about Trundle, talking about the supposed Journalist who said Des Buckingham was getting the job less then 24 hours ago
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 701
    Rothko said:
    Crispywood said:
    Red_Chester said:
    Valley11 said:
    Mendonca In Asdas said:
    Valley11 said:
    A little more context perhaps, from an ex pro


    Always wanted us to sign Lee Trundle.

    Even their own fans are saying he doesn’t have a clue 
    He’s not a fan, He’s a Swansea’s ambassador that’s like a Millwall fan saying why the hell would Jones want to manager Charlton they’re tiny or some bs like that. 
    Not talking about Trundle, talking about the supposed Journalist who said Des Buckingham was getting the job less then 24 hours ago
    Things change in football, the concern I have is there’s like 50 comments on that post from Cardiff fans and not a single one of them has slated him or told him to stop making things up like an Alan Nixon. They seem to trust his insights 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,288
    Arsenetatters said:
    Rothko said:
    Good sleuthing elsewhere 


    Unless it’s on the official site 🤔
    I’ve heard that somewhere before. Must be the same person.
    My lawyers will be in touch @Arsenetatters
     :'( 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,916
    i think cardiff probably tapped him up early this season when things weren't going well and i'm sure they would like him now but unless our owners come up with a hopeless budget, I can't see him going anywhere   
  • HardyAddick
    HardyAddick Posts: 1,638
    0% chance he is going 
  • BigDiddy
    BigDiddy Posts: 1,198
    Cardiff has a toxic ownership, but never say never in football. 

    NJ will probably see what support he gets in this window before we will know his intentions.

    Time for the yanks to put some real cash in.


  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,195
    BigDiddy said:
    Cardiff has a toxic ownership, but never say never in football. 

    NJ will probably see what support he gets in this window before we will know his intentions.

    Time for the yanks to put some real cash in.


    They will know relegation would be a disaster, I am confident that a budget and strategy put to Jones will be acceptable.
  • BigDiddy
    BigDiddy Posts: 1,198
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    BigDiddy said:
    Cardiff has a toxic ownership, but never say never in football. 

    NJ will probably see what support he gets in this window before we will know his intentions.

    Time for the yanks to put some real cash in.


    They will know relegation would be a disaster, I am confident that a budget and strategy put to Jones will be acceptable.
    They need to make a clear statement NOW, so that we all know where the club stands. If NJ is supported, season ticket sales will also pick up. Like you say, we need a clear strategy to push on - survival with a sub standard squad will end in disaster and NJ and his team would walk in that scenario.

    Decision time !
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,325
    HardyAddick said:
    0% chance he is going 
    End of the day this squad needs major surgery just to stay up, if he’s not been promised the funds then it’s a hopeless task. 
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