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Tuchel’s first England squad

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  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,607
    edited March 14
    BigRedEvil said:
    4 keepers? Some strange selections there
    Trafford has been playing well enough tbf (to get a call up), but not going to be starting so I am for that.

    If I had to drop one of them it would of been Ramsdale (due to Southampton's position). Maybe that of been a tad cruel.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,942
    JustFloydRoad said:
    Rashford, Rogers no Watkins 🤔

    Thought he (Watkins) was decent enough and has been playing well to deserve a call up. 

    Maybe it was that offside in the Rogers disallowed goal 😕
    Watkins has a knock I think.
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,607
    edited March 14
    North Lower Neil said:
    JustFloydRoad said:
    Rashford, Rogers no Watkins 🤔

    Thought he (Watkins) was decent enough and has been playing well to deserve a call up. 

    Maybe it was that offside in the Rogers disallowed goal 😕
    Watkins has a knock I think.
    Probably best then not to risk it.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    This is the trouble with Tuchel on a short-term deal. He won’t care about developing younger players
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,835
    Henderson is England's Danny Hylton  ;)
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,607
    The Red Robin said:
    This is the trouble with Tuchel on a short-term deal. He won’t care about developing younger players
    Think the idea with Tuchel is short term success not we win it next time.


    You have to consider he is in-charge of a national and not a club with a youth academy.
  • Bostonaddick
    Bostonaddick Posts: 812
    The amount of angst on here about selection of a few players who are only going to be reserves anyway against the 65th and 140th ranked countries in the world is a little amusing. The players who were going to be starters and the top 4 or 5 reserves (except maybe Watkins) are on the squad.  I understand the concern about not developing the young talent for the future but were any of the excluded players really expected to play a role at the next World Cup?

    My biggest concern with Tuchel isn’t squad selection.  It is his tendency to play players out of their natural position and some unusual tactical decisions he has used at times.  it probably won’t matter in the short term but once there is tougher competition, it might
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    edited March 15
    The Red Robin said:
    This is the trouble with Tuchel on a short-term deal. He won’t care about developing younger players
    It's not the job of the England 1st team manager to develop young players, that's the role of the age group managers/coaches. Tuchel's job is to win major tournaments.
    This squad is OK i m o, basically Southgate's squad with a few missing through injury and another few personal choices. As ever, we will see how they go against the minnows we are playing next. 
    EDIT: Good to see Dan Burn get recognised, and a shame that his teammate Lewis Hall is injured



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    Gribbo Posts: 8,480

  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Lincsaddick said:
    The Red Robin said:
    This is the trouble with Tuchel on a short-term deal. He won’t care about developing younger players
    It's not the job of the England 1st team manager to develop young players, that's the role of the age group managers/coaches. Tuchel's job is to win major tournaments.
    This squad is OK i m o, basically Southgate's squad with a few missing through injury and another few personal choices. As ever, we will see how they go against the minnows we are playing next. 
    EDIT: Good to see Dan Burn get recognised, and a shame that his teammate Lewis Hall is injured



    I meant in terms of bedding them into the England set-up, as a longer term appointment would do.
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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,966
    Morgan Gibbs-White added to the squad 
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,740
    The Red Robin said:
    This is the trouble with Tuchel on a short-term deal. He won’t care about developing younger players
    Disagree. Imo this has always been our problem. We worry too much about the future and not about the present. A squad should consist of the players who can contribute to win the next competition. It isn’t a bloody apprenticeship scheme.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,987
    jimmymelrose said:
    The Red Robin said:
    This is the trouble with Tuchel on a short-term deal. He won’t care about developing younger players
    Disagree. Imo this has always been our problem. We worry too much about the future and not about the present. A squad should consist of the players who can contribute to win the next competition. It isn’t a bloody apprenticeship scheme.
    So realistically still not Walker and Henderson then?
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,966
    Wharton has been training with the senior squad. Seems like Tuchel wants to get an eye on as many people as he feasibly can
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,216
    Just heard I've been called up.
  • charltonkeston
    charltonkeston Posts: 7,358
    A rather uninspiring first squad. I would have liked to have all players chosen to be in form and starting regularly for their clubs, not from the subs bench or not being able to contribute for at least 90 minutes.
    Tuchel must know more about football than me so I'll see how he gets on against Albania this week. If he plays two 34 year olds one from the Dutch league and one from Serie A not good enough for Man City, a player on loan from a struggling Man U who doesn't have 90 minutes in him who looks lost/disinterested, a centre forward who wants to play behind the midfield and take penalties/free kicks, either T-rex, a Palace keeper (3 bloody players in the squad), a Championship keeper or the Southampton keeper, (should be Pope hes won a medal and once played for a good club), I might actually know more.
    I think it will be nothing different from the old boss, we will bludgeon our way to the finals of competitions and bore everyone with our, (for want of a better word), "style".
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,942
    Dan Burn has had quite the week, hasn't he?  Trophy and a Wembley goal with his home town club, and now his first cap.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,987
    Pickford, Walker, Lewis-Skelly, Burn, Konsa, Rice, Jones, Foden, Bellingham, Rashford, Kane. 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    Very experimental .. giving a few a chance to re-establish themselves and others to make a case .. I reckon Dan Burn has a good chance of becoming a regular IF of course he makes the most of a debut v what must be limited opposition
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,987
    Lincsaddick said:
    Very experimental .. giving a few a chance to re-establish themselves and others to make a case .. I reckon Dan Burn has a good chance of becoming a regular IF of course he makes the most of a debut v what must be limited opposition
    He'll be ok in these 2 games and i like him as a player, as he's clearly a guy that will give his all, but i really hope we don't go into a major tournament with him as a starting centre back. I don't think he's that good on the ball and he would be absolutely ruined by anyone with pace. I'm not sure he'd even start for Newcastle if Botman was fit.
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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,312
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    Very experimental .. giving a few a chance to re-establish themselves and others to make a case .. I reckon Dan Burn has a good chance of becoming a regular IF of course he makes the most of a debut v what must be limited opposition
    He'll be ok in these 2 games and i like him as a player, as he's clearly a guy that will give his all, but i really hope we don't go into a major tournament with him as a starting centre back. I don't think he's that good on the ball and he would be absolutely ruined by anyone with pace. I'm not sure he'd even start for Newcastle if Botman was fit.
    Being good on the ball is kind of his thing! Apart from being really tall 
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,974
    Be interested to know when the first paper aeroplane is thrown. 
  • AllHailTheHen
    AllHailTheHen Posts: 3,063
    Up The Addicks

  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    CAFCTrev said:
    Be interested to know when the first paper aeroplane is thrown. 
    Am busy folding a paper Avro Lancaster in tribute to the Manager as we speak
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,362
    Lovely goal that.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    edited March 21
    You dont get a better debut than that!!!

    Lovely finish from Lewis-Skelly - The ball from Bellingham is gorgeous, as it leaves Defender and Goalkeeper in absolute No Man's Land
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,269
    Keeper could possibly done better? But it was a great ball from Bellingham and great movement from Lewis-Skelly
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,893
    Something has to change - this is an utter bore fest - will finish 3 or 4 nil, we all know it and could have called it before the game started -a complete mismatch and  that’s not sport 
  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,699
    Rashford is such a lazy bastard, bottled a challenge then didn’t bother to chase back.
  • EveshamAddick
    EveshamAddick Posts: 7,013
    DOUCHER said:
    Something has to change - this is an utter bore fest - will finish 3 or 4 nil, we all know it and could have called it before the game started -a complete mismatch and  that’s not sport 
    Can’t wait for the 64 country edition of the World Cup…

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