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  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick
    Stig said:
    SporadicAddick said:
    Chizz said:
    Chippycafc said:
    Chizz said:
    Chippycafc said:
    How anybody here is having a pop at reform iafter the utter shambles of a government you've put in is beyond me and most sensible people.

    Deflection and guilt I guess.. is it 5 or maybe 10.
    So, just for clarification, is Rupert right to invest in the installation of solar panels? Or is Richard right that they're a massive con? 
    Dunno ask em. I don't care either way. Clarified for you....if it doesn't your will have to think of some other strange question. 
    Have you ever considered posting with subtitles? 
    Stay classy Jizz.
    Thank you for trying to map out the moral high ground for us. Shame you slipped on your very last step.
    Irony fully intended.
  • Chaz Hill
    Chaz Hill
    stop_shouting said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
    Love Rupert Lowe. One of the hardest working MP’s and donates his salary to a local charity each month. I expect him to be on the front bench when Reform get in.
    Top Knob if Elon has his way  ;)
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe
    cafcnick1992 said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
    I find comments like this disingenuous. Rupert Lowe probably has a bit of money and can afford the initial investment to put solar panels on his roof. The average person cannot.

    Pointing this out does not make him a hypocrite?
    When a political party talks about renewals they're not taking about people installing solar panels at their own costs.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru
    stop_shouting said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
    Love Rupert Lowe. One of the hardest working MP’s and donates his salary to a local charity each month. I expect him to be on the front bench when Reform get in.
    Hardest working says who ? If he donates his salary to charity then fair play but that doesn’t stop him from being a twunt which he demonstrates on a daily basis.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru
    cafcnick1992 said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
    I find comments like this disingenuous. Rupert Lowe probably has a bit of money and can afford the initial investment to put solar panels on his roof. The average person cannot.

    Pointing this out does not make him a hypocrite?
    Erm……..
  • stop_shouting
    stop_shouting
    Chaz Hill said:
    stop_shouting said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
    Love Rupert Lowe. One of the hardest working MP’s and donates his salary to a local charity each month. I expect him to be on the front bench when Reform get in.
    Top Knob if Elon has his way  ;)
    Works for me 😀
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992
    Friend Or Defoe said:
    cafcnick1992 said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
    I find comments like this disingenuous. Rupert Lowe probably has a bit of money and can afford the initial investment to put solar panels on his roof. The average person cannot.

    Pointing this out does not make him a hypocrite?
    When a political party talks about renewals they're not taking about people installing solar panels at their own costs.
    Right, which makes shooters criticism even less relevant.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru
    edited February 17
    stop_shouting said:
    Chaz Hill said:
    stop_shouting said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
    Love Rupert Lowe. One of the hardest working MP’s and donates his salary to a local charity each month. I expect him to be on the front bench when Reform get in.
    Top Knob if Elon has his way  ;)
    Works for me 😀
    Seems pretty unlikely given that Farage actually owns Reform, lock stock and barrel and only has his eyes set on the keys to number ten and couldn’t give a flying fuck about playing second fiddle. 
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  • Dansk_Red
    Dansk_Red
    I like to wager that Ed Miliband will be sitting the House of Lords before any of his initiatives come on stream.
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick
    More extreme weather in USA, floods in Kentucky have killed 10 people and extremely low temperatures in other regions. The cost of dealing with all these weather related events is enormous.

    https://news.sky.com/story/us-weather-nine-dead-as-severe-rain-flooding-and-lows-of-35c-hit-multiple-states-13311121
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc
    stop_shouting said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    stop_shouting said:
    Chaz Hill said:
    stop_shouting said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
    Love Rupert Lowe. One of the hardest working MP’s and donates his salary to a local charity each month. I expect him to be on the front bench when Reform get in.
    Top Knob if Elon has his way  ;)
    Works for me 😀
    Seems pretty unlikely given that Farage actually owns Reform, lock stock and barrel and only has his eyes set on the keys to number ten and couldn’t give a flying fuck about playing second fiddle. 
    Still works for me. Doesn’t have the baggage that nige has and his lack of previous political experience doesn’t seem to be an issue. Ultimately it will be trumps decision anyway. Also, I don’t believe farage owns Reform.
    Me too. Wish these useless twats would call an election.. they havent got the balls to do it though.
  • Chizz
    Chizz
    stop_shouting said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    stop_shouting said:
    Chaz Hill said:
    stop_shouting said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
    Love Rupert Lowe. One of the hardest working MP’s and donates his salary to a local charity each month. I expect him to be on the front bench when Reform get in.
    Top Knob if Elon has his way  ;)
    Works for me 😀
    Seems pretty unlikely given that Farage actually owns Reform, lock stock and barrel and only has his eyes set on the keys to number ten and couldn’t give a flying fuck about playing second fiddle. 
    Still works for me. Doesn’t have the baggage that nige has and his lack of previous political experience doesn’t seem to be an issue. Ultimately it will be trumps decision anyway. Also, I don’t believe farage owns Reform.

    Reform UK, originally established as the Brexit Party in 2018, was initially structured as a private limited company known as Reform UK Party Limited. This corporate setup granted significant control to its primary shareholders, with Nigel Farage owning a majority stake. In August 2024, Farage increased his ownership to 60% by acquiring shares from the departing chief executive, Paul Oakden. (thetimes.co.uk) 

    In September 2024, Farage announced plans to transition Reform UK from a private company to a company limited by guarantee, effectively transferring ownership to its members. This move aimed to democratize the party's structure, allowing members to have a direct say in its governance and policies. (ft.com) 

    By October 2024, during its inaugural party conference in Birmingham, Reform UK had begun implementing this new structure. The party reported a membership exceeding 80,000 and outlined plans to establish local constituency branches, further embedding its grassroots presence. (thetimes.co.uk) 



    There is no publicly available information as to who owns the remaining 40% or so of the shares.  I wouldn't be surprised to find that some or all of the shareholders can be traced back to the fossil fuel industry.  

  • swords_alive
    swords_alive
    Rupert Lowe, Reform MP for Great Yarmouth since 2024, i.e. a party that plans to scrap the country's net zero target, is a hypocrite by most definitions of the word. He has more interest in net zero than just solar panels apparently, according to the Hope Not Hate website today;

    "Lowe, in fact, is a major investor in green technology. He has at least a 15% stake in Kona Energy, a battery energy storage company working “to deliver a zero carbon future”. He also owns Alto Energy, a heat pump company. His colleague Richard Tice said these eco-friendly alternatives to gas boilers are “as attractive as a bucket of cold sick”, urging his followers on X: “Ignore the heat pump sellers!” Perhaps Tice could follow his own advice…"


    https://hopenothate.org.uk/2025/02/17/hypocrisy-revealed-rupert-lowe-champion-of-natural-food-is-investor-in-lab-grown-bacteria-protein/

    Also Greenpeace have picked apart Reform's approach to Net zero, which some may find interesting;
    https://www.greenpeace.org.uk/resources/reform-manifesto-analysis/ - "    a list of bogus arguments lifted straight from the climate denial playbook".


    I hope we are not to be further sidetracked by them and their supporters on here. They are just a distraction.
  • swordfish
    swordfish
    I can't think why, but I had a sudden urge to see the effect of climate change on rat population numbers. Rattus norvegicus and Rattus rattus seem to be thriving, rats being one of the very few wildlife species with increasing numbers.

    https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.ads6782#:~:text=While untested, the assertion that,their impact on rat numbers.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick
    edited February 17
    Chizz said:
    stop_shouting said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    stop_shouting said:
    Chaz Hill said:
    stop_shouting said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
    Love Rupert Lowe. One of the hardest working MP’s and donates his salary to a local charity each month. I expect him to be on the front bench when Reform get in.
    Top Knob if Elon has his way  ;)
    Works for me 😀
    Seems pretty unlikely given that Farage actually owns Reform, lock stock and barrel and only has his eyes set on the keys to number ten and couldn’t give a flying fuck about playing second fiddle. 
    Still works for me. Doesn’t have the baggage that nige has and his lack of previous political experience doesn’t seem to be an issue. Ultimately it will be trumps decision anyway. Also, I don’t believe farage owns Reform.

    Reform UK, originally established as the Brexit Party in 2018, was initially structured as a private limited company known as Reform UK Party Limited. This corporate setup granted significant control to its primary shareholders, with Nigel Farage owning a majority stake. In August 2024, Farage increased his ownership to 60% by acquiring shares from the departing chief executive, Paul Oakden. (thetimes.co.uk) 

    In September 2024, Farage announced plans to transition Reform UK from a private company to a company limited by guarantee, effectively transferring ownership to its members. This move aimed to democratize the party's structure, allowing members to have a direct say in its governance and policies. (ft.com) 

    By October 2024, during its inaugural party conference in Birmingham, Reform UK had begun implementing this new structure. The party reported a membership exceeding 80,000 and outlined plans to establish local constituency branches, further embedding its grassroots presence. (thetimes.co.uk) 



    There is no publicly available information as to who owns the remaining 40% or so of the shares.  I wouldn't be surprised to find that some or all of the shareholders can be traced back to the fossil fuel industry.  

    It also receives 92% of its funding from fossil fuel industry stakeholders.
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick
    Chippycafc said:
    stop_shouting said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    stop_shouting said:
    Chaz Hill said:
    stop_shouting said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
    Love Rupert Lowe. One of the hardest working MP’s and donates his salary to a local charity each month. I expect him to be on the front bench when Reform get in.
    Top Knob if Elon has his way  ;)
    Works for me 😀
    Seems pretty unlikely given that Farage actually owns Reform, lock stock and barrel and only has his eyes set on the keys to number ten and couldn’t give a flying fuck about playing second fiddle. 
    Still works for me. Doesn’t have the baggage that nige has and his lack of previous political experience doesn’t seem to be an issue. Ultimately it will be trumps decision anyway. Also, I don’t believe farage owns Reform.
    Me too. Wish these useless twats would call an election.. they havent got the balls to do it though.
    Why would they, they have a huge majority.

    Back to Climate Change, we are all affected by it, so should all be working together.


  • Dansk_Red
    Dansk_Red
    Rob Lowe is MP for Great Yarmouth, which is where the gas pipelines from the Southern North Sea comes ashore, also the gas industry employs a lot of workers in the area servicing the rigs etc. So in someways he is looking after his constituents interests. Anyway Reform has a larger appeal (what were are not allowed to talk about) There is no way Reform will ever run the country with the existing voting system.  
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  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe
    edited February 17
    。
  • R0TW
    R0TW
    edited February 17
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Dansk_Red said:
    It will only take one really cold winter and power outages become a reality,  for people to turn on whoever is running the country, if everybody truly believed in  climate emergency we would all vote for the Greens.     
    Without wishing to get political. I think the name “Greens” is not truly reflective of just what a shambles of policies they have. The overarching “Green” credentials is for me lost in the other crap they want.
    Well the political comment didn’t last long.
    Like others on here, you just can’t help yourselves.
  • Chizz
    Chizz
    R0TW said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Dansk_Red said:
    It will only take one really cold winter and power outages become a reality,  for people to turn on whoever is running the country, if everybody truly believed in  climate emergency we would all vote for the Greens.     
    Without wishing to get political. I think the name “Greens” is not truly reflective of just what a shambles of policies they have. The overarching “Green” credentials is for me lost in the other crap they want.
    Well the political comment didn’t last long.
    Like others on here, you just can’t help yourselves.
    What's your view on the Climate Emergency? Should we stick to our Net Zero targets?  Is harvesting energy from onshore wind farms a reliable, sustainable method of delivering cheap power?  Should we continue to issue North Sea drilling licences?  How soon should petrol stations be converted into EV charging points? 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru
    stop_shouting said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    stop_shouting said:
    Chaz Hill said:
    stop_shouting said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
    Love Rupert Lowe. One of the hardest working MP’s and donates his salary to a local charity each month. I expect him to be on the front bench when Reform get in.
    Top Knob if Elon has his way  ;)
    Works for me 😀
    Seems pretty unlikely given that Farage actually owns Reform, lock stock and barrel and only has his eyes set on the keys to number ten and couldn’t give a flying fuck about playing second fiddle. 
    Still works for me. Doesn’t have the baggage that nige has and his lack of previous political experience doesn’t seem to be an issue. Ultimately it will be trumps decision anyway. Also, I don’t believe farage owns Reform.
    Well you could look at Companies House where Nigel Paul Farage is designated as the person with significant control. It’s a limited company. Its accounts are due in August. That’ll make interesting reading.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru
    edited February 17
    R0TW said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Dansk_Red said:
    It will only take one really cold winter and power outages become a reality,  for people to turn on whoever is running the country, if everybody truly believed in  climate emergency we would all vote for the Greens.     
    Without wishing to get political. I think the name “Greens” is not truly reflective of just what a shambles of policies they have. The overarching “Green” credentials is for me lost in the other crap they want.
    Well the political comment didn’t last long.
    Like others on here, you just can’t help yourselves.
    Green Party - The party that preports to be about green issues. 
    Reform Party - The party that denies man made climate change and will scrap net zero.
    I agree neither have anything to do with the climate emergency 
  • R0TW
    R0TW
    edited February 17
    Fuck knows, I vote reform so am no way as intelligent as you.
    I will just bow to whatever you say, as you are always correct,

    I do think that areas that have high levels of lightning strikes should investigate harvesting that form of energy.
    Places like Florida for example.
    A couple of harvested strikes would see off anything a farm of wind turbines could generate.
    The problem with this being the large instantaneous power supply.

    Seeing that we can now send power down a Cat5 cable to boil a kettle (and more), perhaps there may a solution in the future to do the reverse of this? Still, what do I know.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru
    Gulp
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru
    AI’s take


    Lightning strikes are a fascinating natural phenomenon that carry immense energy, but harnessing them as a reliable form of energy is highly impractical for several reasons. Here's an overview of lightning as a potential energy source and the challenges involved:

    ### Energy in Lightning
    - A single lightning bolt can carry **up to 1 billion joules of energy** (roughly equivalent to 280 kWh), which is enough to power a typical household for about a week.
    - The energy is released in a very short time (milliseconds), resulting in an extremely high power output (up to 1 trillion watts).

    ### Challenges of Harnessing Lightning
    1. **Unpredictability**: Lightning strikes are random and sporadic, making it impossible to predict when and where they will occur.
    2. **Short Duration**: The energy is released in a fraction of a second, requiring technology capable of capturing and storing it almost instantaneously.
    3. **High Voltage and Current**: Lightning carries extremely high voltage (millions of volts) and current (tens of thousands of amps), which would require specialized and expensive equipment to handle safely.
    4. **Infrastructure Costs**: Building a system to capture lightning would require widespread infrastructure in areas prone to lightning strikes, which are often remote or impractical for energy distribution.
    5. **Low Frequency**: Even in regions with frequent thunderstorms, the total energy from lightning over a year is relatively small compared to other renewable energy sources like solar or wind.

    ### Theoretical Possibilities
    While harnessing lightning directly is not feasible, researchers have explored ways to capture atmospheric electricity or use lightning's energy indirectly. For example:
    - **Atmospheric Energy Harvesting**: Some experiments have attempted to capture the electrical charge in the atmosphere, though this is still in the experimental stage.
    - **Energy Storage**: Advanced capacitors or supercapacitors could theoretically store the energy from a lightning strike, but current technology is not efficient enough for practical use.

    ### Conclusion
    While lightning is a powerful natural phenomenon, its unpredictability, short duration, and the technical challenges of capturing and storing its energy make it an impractical source of renewable energy. Instead, focus remains on more reliable and scalable renewable energy sources like solar, wind, and hydroelectric power.

  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru
    cafcnick1992 said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Gulp
    Comments like this annoy me - designed to belittle people for daring to have an alternate opinion.
    Feel free to be annoyed. It’s your right.

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