Climate Emergency

Most of Scotland's wind turbines are locked down for the next 24hours, due to gale force winds. Wind power works in countries like Denmark were they had no  or very little natural fossil fuels and was imported, they had a 40 year head start when they realised that importing coal/oil  was not sustainable.in the long run so turned to wind power, very few of the wind turbines are on land mostly on the coast but not really offshore    

cafcnick1992 said:

First day in decades that wind turbines are actually making a useful contribution

You know this isn't facebook or X, right?

Renewables currently at 44.6%
https://grid.iamkate.com/

queensland_addick said:

cafcnick1992 said:

First day in decades that wind turbines are actually making a useful contribution

They are very good at killing Birds of Prey

Don't blame the turbines. It's their own fault for not looking where they're going. They can spot a mouse or vole on the ground from distance, but not a dirty great turbine blade moving until it's too late. 😉

ME14addick said:

Renewables currently at 44.6%
https://grid.iamkate.com/

That looks like a current daily figure, very misleading.

If you look at the "All" tab, it says 22%, or the "Weekly" tab, it says 19% renewables

queensland_addick said:

ME14addick said:

Renewables currently at 44.6%
https://grid.iamkate.com/

That looks like a current daily figure, very misleading.

If you look at the "All" tab, it says 22%, or the "Weekly" tab, it says 19% renewables

The daily tab is as equally misleading as using "All". That goes back to 2012 so not a really good indicatior of the current capabilities of renewables. What do you think of the figures for "Past Year"?  37.5% renewable and 27.9% fossil fuels.  Good progress since 2012 aye?
(I realise ME14 was replying to cafcnick apparently trying to misleading himself about wind power)

When looking at live data on our energy consumption mix, I'll say again, its WINTER and its cold and we're burning lots of gas for central heating. The tab for the last year removes seasonal variables.

EDIT -  Just seen your post. Thank you @arthur

Stig said:

queensland_addick said:

cafcnick1992 said:

First day in decades that wind turbines are actually making a useful contribution

They are very good at killing Birds of Prey

"Climate change poses the single biggest threat to birds and other wildlife. Current science suggests that one third of all land-based species could be committed, by 2050, towards eventual extinction if extensive action is not taken to reduce our carbon footprint. This means that low carbon energy sources like wind turbines play a significant role in saving nature". RSPB

There's stuff that can be done to minimise bird strikes. Apparently painting blades black reduces bird strikes by 70%.  Let's not use the comparatively small number of deaths caused by turbines as a red herring to put people off of wind power. The number one priority now is to get carbon emissions under control. When we've done that, then will be the time to really focus on other possibilities.

100% correct.
But that doesn't distract from the fact that millions of Birds of Prey, Songbirds and even Bats are killed every year, whilst also being a horrible eye sore on the countryside.

queensland_addick said:

Stig said:

queensland_addick said:

cafcnick1992 said:

First day in decades that wind turbines are actually making a useful contribution

They are very good at killing Birds of Prey

"Climate change poses the single biggest threat to birds and other wildlife. Current science suggests that one third of all land-based species could be committed, by 2050, towards eventual extinction if extensive action is not taken to reduce our carbon footprint. This means that low carbon energy sources like wind turbines play a significant role in saving nature". RSPB

There's stuff that can be done to minimise bird strikes. Apparently painting blades black reduces bird strikes by 70%.  Let's not use the comparatively small number of deaths caused by turbines as a red herring to put people off of wind power. The number one priority now is to get carbon emissions under control. When we've done that, then will be the time to really focus on other possibilities.

100% correct.
But that doesn't distract from the fact that millions of Birds of Prey, Songbirds and even Bats are killed every year, whilst also being a horrible eye sore on the countryside.

I haven't read this, so won't comment.

How many birds are killed by wind turbines in the UK? - BBC Science Focus Magazine

ME14addick said:

queensland_addick said:

ME14addick said:

queensland_addick said:

ME14addick said:

Renewables currently at 44.6%
https://grid.iamkate.com/

That looks like a current daily figure, very misleading.

If you look at the "All" tab, it says 22%, or the "Weekly" tab, it says 19% renewables

I said CURRENTLY that is the live figure, nothing misleading about it.

You did indeed, and I'm sure you weren't really trying to suggest that renewables account for nearly half of the UK's power supply (other than for the past 5 minutes maybe 🤔)

Why make the comment then? The site shows live figures, you are becoming more and more ridiculous with your comments.

Why did you post a meaningless figure?
Who cares what the number is at this very second, it's irrelevant.

The countries striving towards renewable energy will do better than those relying on fossil fuels. If climate change doesn't wipe us out first, those countries relying on the finite fossil fuels will be left behind. That's why we in the UK need to move to non fossil fuels as quickly as we can. 

queensland_addick said:

ME14addick said:

queensland_addick said:

ME14addick said:

queensland_addick said:

ME14addick said:

Renewables currently at 44.6%
https://grid.iamkate.com/

That looks like a current daily figure, very misleading.

If you look at the "All" tab, it says 22%, or the "Weekly" tab, it says 19% renewables

I said CURRENTLY that is the live figure, nothing misleading about it.

You did indeed, and I'm sure you weren't really trying to suggest that renewables account for nearly half of the UK's power supply (other than for the past 5 minutes maybe 🤔)

Why make the comment then? The site shows live figures, you are becoming more and more ridiculous with your comments.

Why did you post a meaningless figure?
Who cares what the number is at this very second, it's irrelevant.

It wasn't a meaningless figure,  someone else was making a false claim about wind generation. I looked at the National Grid LIVE figure and quoted the current figure, meaning at the time of posting. 

arthur said:

queensland_addick said:

ME14addick said:

queensland_addick said:

ME14addick said:

queensland_addick said:

ME14addick said:

Renewables currently at 44.6%
https://grid.iamkate.com/

That looks like a current daily figure, very misleading.

If you look at the "All" tab, it says 22%, or the "Weekly" tab, it says 19% renewables

I said CURRENTLY that is the live figure, nothing misleading about it.

You did indeed, and I'm sure you weren't really trying to suggest that renewables account for nearly half of the UK's power supply (other than for the past 5 minutes maybe 🤔)

Why make the comment then? The site shows live figures, you are becoming more and more ridiculous with your comments.

Why did you post a meaningless figure?
Who cares what the number is at this very second, it's irrelevant.

not as meaningless as claiming that "millions" of birds are killed by wind turbines. 

Around 5 million globally according to estimates:

https://www.sustainabilitybynumbers.com/p/wind-power-bird-deaths