Lol edited.... Good to see there is still a SOH about despite the state of the country... Something in the last 6 months not too much too smile about. Thank you very much.
Since there's no thread on US politics, I'm going to say this in here.
I was 100% against Trump back when Hilary was running. I couldn't believe Trump won. I thought Americans were crazy. I'd been leaning towards the left for more than 20 years without even knowing - maybe it was a result of me watching Hollywood films and TV series ever since the 90's. Anyway, it wasn't until this past election that I realized why the Dems lost so spectacularly... I read about some policies by the Dems and they were shocking. I have a childhood friend who now lives in New Jersey and she isn't pleased with the Dems either. In my opinion, the left has taken many things way too far. I know 99% of Lifers don't like Trump - I still don't like him either but you really should look more closely to see why he won the election this time. It's partly because the Democratic Party have done awfully in recent years in quite a few areas. Voters always care more about things that directly relate to their own well-being. And I suppose even if it wasn't Trump that was running, the Democratic Party would still have lost this election.
So my point is, step back and take a real look. It's impossible that over half of the population of a country is dumb.
I give you two examples of why I don't like the Dems (especially the Biden administration). One, immigration policies and DEI gone too far. Two, the ridiculously chaotic military withdrawal from Afghanistan. These are just the ones that are off the top of my head.
I had stereotype impressions of the GOP. Now I'm probably more a centrist...
There is a very good reason why there is no US politics thread, or any other politics threads. There used to be but all it lead to was bickering, name calling and in some cases outright aggression.
We do not need a discussion on US politics on this football forum - plenty of other places online for that.
Thanks for the reminder, sir. I promise I'll never say a word on politics on this forum. I can keep quiet at the office while everyone around me is talking about politics which is actually my favourite topic, I am certainly able and willing to refrain from commenting about it on an internet forum.
Lol edited.... Good to see there is still a SOH about despite the state of the country... Something in the last 6 months not too much too smile about. Thank you very much.
You were warned.
For the record, I know you're not savage enough to put ketchup on a Sirloin.
We already have 'free' emergency services, primary/secondary education, health services, police, national defence, motorways, commercial television, libraries, etc. (of course most are ultimately paid from taxes). Why not transport?
All the disadvantages I can think of are outweighed by the advantages. Would certainly make people think twice about driving if a free alternative were available.
Lol edited.... Good to see there is still a SOH about despite the state of the country... Something in the last 6 months not too much too smile about. Thank you very much.
You were warned.
For the record, I know you're not savage enough to put ketchup on a Sirloin.
I put ketchup on everything except roast dinner just making a casserole for tonight and its got ketchup in it. I even have ornaments of ketchup bottles on my work desk and key rings of them.
I don't buy them people see them when their out and about and buy them as a joke.
Great post Jessie... Queeries been educating those that won't listen for years here.
Actually I've seen many films about homosexual people and always sympathised with them. I'm all for the legalisation of same-sex marriage. I think it's a necessary change. But anything other than that, I'm not sure... Last year I read that Biden signed an executive order that provided free transgender surgery to military members and many transgender people joined the military just for free surgeries (I think that's the natural outcome of this policy). While thousands and thousands of services members are denied of PTSD and TBI treatments because the US government or the military organisations don't have adequate financial resources and yet they have money for transgender surgeries? WTF is that? I really think it's a sign that the LGBT issue becoming ridiculous. If I go to a lady's room and there's a trans who used to be a man, I'd feel very very uncomfortable or even scared. What the left is doing is encouraging, not supporting but encouraging abnormalities and encouraging people to "use" the policies for their own purposes.
Very well said Jessie and courageous of you to speak up.
As I've been trying to tell fellow Lifer's for years, the Media and the "Establishment" lied for years and did everything they possibly could to destroy Trump and his supporters.
Why? because he couldn't be bought, and because he wanted to return the country to prosperity, greatness, and common sense, rather than continuing along the course of the ultra progressive far left, who's goal was to re invent the World as we knew it, and change literally everything, right down to inventing multiple sexes.
Within his first couple of days he has already mandated that only 2 sexes exist (crazy that such a move should ever have even been necessary) Hostages are finally starting to be released, the Stock Market is booming, Illegal Immigrants are being deported, Troops have been deployed to secure the border, World Leaders are taking notice and are now ready to negotiate on ending the wars.
The World (Excluding CL🤣) is suddenly returning to Common Sense and optimism.
It's a shame we can't discuss this further, but like you, I would like this thread to stay open as I'm finding it very educational and enlightening.
I felt that I had to afford you the courtesy of a reply and I sincerely hope that you avoid the kind of abuse that has been levelled at me over the last 8 years.
Since there's no thread on US politics, I'm going to say this in here.
I was 100% against Trump back when Hilary was running. I couldn't believe Trump won. I thought Americans were crazy. I'd been leaning towards the left for more than 20 years without even knowing - maybe it was a result of me watching Hollywood films and TV series ever since the 90's. Anyway, it wasn't until this past election that I realized why the Dems lost so spectacularly... I read about some policies by the Dems and they were shocking. I have a childhood friend who now lives in New Jersey and she isn't pleased with the Dems either. In my opinion, the left has taken many things way too far. I know 99% of Lifers don't like Trump - I still don't like him either but you really should look more closely to see why he won the election this time. It's partly because the Democratic Party have done awfully in recent years in quite a few areas. Voters always care more about things that directly relate to their own well-being. And I suppose even if it wasn't Trump that was running, the Democratic Party would still have lost this election.
So my point is, step back and take a real look. It's impossible that over half of the population of a country is dumb.
I give you two examples of why I don't like the Dems (especially the Biden administration). One, immigration policies and DEI gone too far. Two, the ridiculously chaotic military withdrawal from Afghanistan. These are just the ones that are off the top of my head.
I had stereotype impressions of the GOP. Now I'm probably more a centrist...
I agree that the Republicans were always going to be favourite, whether Trump, DeSantis or Vivek was running.
That said, I thought Kamala Harris was a spectacularly weak candidate. A very poor public speaker in an age where the media is king.
Since there's no thread on US politics, I'm going to say this in here.
I was 100% against Trump back when Hilary was running. I couldn't believe Trump won. I thought Americans were crazy. I'd been leaning towards the left for more than 20 years without even knowing - maybe it was a result of me watching Hollywood films and TV series ever since the 90's. Anyway, it wasn't until this past election that I realized why the Dems lost so spectacularly... I read about some policies by the Dems and they were shocking. I have a childhood friend who now lives in New Jersey and she isn't pleased with the Dems either. In my opinion, the left has taken many things way too far. I know 99% of Lifers don't like Trump - I still don't like him either but you really should look more closely to see why he won the election this time. It's partly because the Democratic Party have done awfully in recent years in quite a few areas. Voters always care more about things that directly relate to their own well-being. And I suppose even if it wasn't Trump that was running, the Democratic Party would still have lost this election.
So my point is, step back and take a real look. It's impossible that over half of the population of a country is dumb.
I give you two examples of why I don't like the Dems (especially the Biden administration). One, immigration policies and DEI gone too far. Two, the ridiculously chaotic military withdrawal from Afghanistan. These are just the ones that are off the top of my head.
I had stereotype impressions of the GOP. Now I'm probably more a centrist...
I agree that the Republicans were always going to be favourite, whether Trump, DeSantis or Vivek was running.
That said, I thought Kamala Harris was a spectacularly weak candidate. A very poor public speaker in an age where the media is king.
Only a character as strong as Trump (for all his imperfections) was able to prevail over the lies and propaganda of the MSM, Social Media, Hollywood etc, and he probably wouldn't have done so without Musk buying and cleaning up Twitter, and by using alternative media and podcasts like Joe Rogan.
Trump being the genius that he is, bypassed the Legacy Media.
Someone like DeSantis wouldn't have had the same savvy or perception, and would have been taken down and taken out.
Gonna ask again in case any on here who are well informed know - has domestic use of energy seen a decline in the last 3 years because many have been ‘forced’ to because of the very real cost rises?
My curiosity is whether we show as a nation we can manage with less when the incentive/penalty is there?
Im not suggesting it’s an acceptable solution (far from it) but curious and if that shows there may be some linked solutions - it’s sometimes said for example some households over heat their homes rather than putting on a jumper etc. and we need to encourage better behaviours.
I’d also think the government could spend on things like meaningful grants for insulation that aren’t means tested / linked to outdated council tax bands.
Gonna ask again in case any on here who are well informed know - has domestic use of energy seen a decline in the last 3 years because many have been ‘forced’ to because of the very real cost rises?
My curiosity is whether we show as a nation we can manage with less when the incentive/penalty is there?
Im not suggesting it’s an acceptable solution (far from it) but curious and if that shows there may be some linked solutions - it’s sometimes said for example some households over heat their homes rather than putting on a jumper etc. and we need to encourage better behaviours.
I’d also think the government could spend on things like meaningful grants for insulation that aren’t means tested / linked to outdated council tax bands.
Yes, domestic energy consumption in the UK has declined over the past three years, probably largely due to significant increases in energy prices. According to the Office for Budget Responsibility, domestic natural gas consumption fell by 10% in 2022 compared to 2019. This reduction is probably attributable to households responding to higher energy costs by curtailing their usage.
Similarly, household electricity consumption has been on a downward trend. Data indicates that UK households consumed approximately 92 terawatt-hours of electricity in 2023, continuing a pattern of annual decline observed over the past two decades.
These reductions in energy consumption are closely linked to rising energy prices. The Office for National Statistics reported that in January 2022, 79% of adults who experienced an increased cost of living cited higher gas and electricity bills as a contributing factor.
In summary, the significant rise in energy costs has compelled many UK households to reduce their energy usage over the past three years.
Well said @Jessie and brave of you on here. I voted for Hilary Clinton in 2016 (my 1st time to be able to vote in the US) and was firmly in the Dems corner until the events in the US in 2020 leading up to the election. BLM, defund the police, the George Floyd saga, Sanctuary Cities and all painted by the left wing media to point to Trump as being a racist, or a nazi, or a misogynist, or whatever bad there is out there. And it worked for them. But I could see right through that and continued to see the same bias against Trump since that time. But nothing would stick culminating in the huge election victory by the Republicans in this last election. The American people spoke! And I do believe the US and the world is in a safer place now.
I’m going to leave this there as I really don’t want to derail this thread, but I wanted to acknowledge your bravery Jessie in taking your stand on what you believe in. Rob.
Gonna ask again in case any on here who are well informed know - has domestic use of energy seen a decline in the last 3 years because many have been ‘forced’ to because of the very real cost rises?
My curiosity is whether we show as a nation we can manage with less when the incentive/penalty is there?
Im not suggesting it’s an acceptable solution (far from it) but curious and if that shows there may be some linked solutions - it’s sometimes said for example some households over heat their homes rather than putting on a jumper etc. and we need to encourage better behaviours.
I’d also think the government could spend on things like meaningful grants for insulation that aren’t means tested / linked to outdated council tax bands.
I think one of the problems with trying to update the ageing housing stock is the cost outweighs the savings in the short term. I recently had a double glazing company pointing out my double glazing windows (fitted 20 yearsago) were outdated and should be replaced, quoting in the region of £12/15k. I asked how long it would be before the 'savings' would offset the capital outlay, he was unable to give me an answer. At my age why should I spend my kids inheritance on things that will not benefit me, this also applies to people who buy houses with the view to moving up the poperty ladder within 5years or so. There is no incentive from governments. It seems OK to invest in major renewable projects without addressing the problem of the existing housing stock ie energy from renewable sources is just being lost though inefficient 100year old plus house walls.
Gonna ask again in case any on here who are well informed know - has domestic use of energy seen a decline in the last 3 years because many have been ‘forced’ to because of the very real cost rises?
My curiosity is whether we show as a nation we can manage with less when the incentive/penalty is there?
Im not suggesting it’s an acceptable solution (far from it) but curious and if that shows there may be some linked solutions - it’s sometimes said for example some households over heat their homes rather than putting on a jumper etc. and we need to encourage better behaviours.
I’d also think the government could spend on things like meaningful grants for insulation that aren’t means tested / linked to outdated council tax bands.
Yes, domestic energy consumption in the UK has declined over the past three years, probably largely due to significant increases in energy prices. According to the Office for Budget Responsibility, domestic natural gas consumption fell by 10% in 2022 compared to 2019. This reduction is probably attributable to households responding to higher energy costs by curtailing their usage.
Similarly, household electricity consumption has been on a downward trend. Data indicates that UK households consumed approximately 92 terawatt-hours of electricity in 2023, continuing a pattern of annual decline observed over the past two decades.
These reductions in energy consumption are closely linked to rising energy prices. The Office for National Statistics reported that in January 2022, 79% of adults who experienced an increased cost of living cited higher gas and electricity bills as a contributing factor.
In summary, the significant rise in energy costs has compelled many UK households to reduce their energy usage over the past three years.
There's little doubt that energy consumption has reduced as a result of much higher prices. I would add though that a significant reason for the bolded bit continuing a pattern of decline over the past 20 years is as a result of much higher efficiency of electrical appliances and lighting.
Gonna ask again in case any on here who are well informed know - has domestic use of energy seen a decline in the last 3 years because many have been ‘forced’ to because of the very real cost rises?
My curiosity is whether we show as a nation we can manage with less when the incentive/penalty is there?
Im not suggesting it’s an acceptable solution (far from it) but curious and if that shows there may be some linked solutions - it’s sometimes said for example some households over heat their homes rather than putting on a jumper etc. and we need to encourage better behaviours.
I’d also think the government could spend on things like meaningful grants for insulation that aren’t means tested / linked to outdated council tax bands.
Yes, domestic energy consumption in the UK has declined over the past three years, probably largely due to significant increases in energy prices. According to the Office for Budget Responsibility, domestic natural gas consumption fell by 10% in 2022 compared to 2019. This reduction is probably attributable to households responding to higher energy costs by curtailing their usage.
Similarly, household electricity consumption has been on a downward trend. Data indicates that UK households consumed approximately 92 terawatt-hours of electricity in 2023, continuing a pattern of annual decline observed over the past two decades.
These reductions in energy consumption are closely linked to rising energy prices. The Office for National Statistics reported that in January 2022, 79% of adults who experienced an increased cost of living cited higher gas and electricity bills as a contributing factor.
In summary, the significant rise in energy costs has compelled many UK households to reduce their energy usage over the past three years.
Thanks. So a relative positive that presumably is a step in the right direction for carbon emissions. 10% I guess is not insignificant unless it is increasing elsewhere.
Gonna ask again in case any on here who are well informed know - has domestic use of energy seen a decline in the last 3 years because many have been ‘forced’ to because of the very real cost rises?
My curiosity is whether we show as a nation we can manage with less when the incentive/penalty is there?
Im not suggesting it’s an acceptable solution (far from it) but curious and if that shows there may be some linked solutions - it’s sometimes said for example some households over heat their homes rather than putting on a jumper etc. and we need to encourage better behaviours.
I’d also think the government could spend on things like meaningful grants for insulation that aren’t means tested / linked to outdated council tax bands.
Yes, domestic energy consumption in the UK has declined over the past three years, probably largely due to significant increases in energy prices. According to the Office for Budget Responsibility, domestic natural gas consumption fell by 10% in 2022 compared to 2019. This reduction is probably attributable to households responding to higher energy costs by curtailing their usage.
Similarly, household electricity consumption has been on a downward trend. Data indicates that UK households consumed approximately 92 terawatt-hours of electricity in 2023, continuing a pattern of annual decline observed over the past two decades.
These reductions in energy consumption are closely linked to rising energy prices. The Office for National Statistics reported that in January 2022, 79% of adults who experienced an increased cost of living cited higher gas and electricity bills as a contributing factor.
In summary, the significant rise in energy costs has compelled many UK households to reduce their energy usage over the past three years.
There's little doubt that energy consumption has reduced as a result of much higher prices. I would add though that a significant reason for the bolded bit continuing a pattern of decline over the past 20 years is as a result of much higher efficiency of electrical appliances and lighting.
Of course I agree some appliances are (must be) helping too.
I read (maybe wrongly) that when @chizz said 'In summary, the significant rise in energy costs has compelled many UK households to reduce their energy usage over the past three years.' that as the OBR conclusion ad not his own?
Regardless 10% is a lot surely and must have a positive impact. Will anyone argue prices need to remain at a higher level than historically to help that be maintained?
Gonna ask again in case any on here who are well informed know - has domestic use of energy seen a decline in the last 3 years because many have been ‘forced’ to because of the very real cost rises?
My curiosity is whether we show as a nation we can manage with less when the incentive/penalty is there?
Im not suggesting it’s an acceptable solution (far from it) but curious and if that shows there may be some linked solutions - it’s sometimes said for example some households over heat their homes rather than putting on a jumper etc. and we need to encourage better behaviours.
I’d also think the government could spend on things like meaningful grants for insulation that aren’t means tested / linked to outdated council tax bands.
Yes, domestic energy consumption in the UK has declined over the past three years, probably largely due to significant increases in energy prices. According to the Office for Budget Responsibility, domestic natural gas consumption fell by 10% in 2022 compared to 2019. This reduction is probably attributable to households responding to higher energy costs by curtailing their usage.
Similarly, household electricity consumption has been on a downward trend. Data indicates that UK households consumed approximately 92 terawatt-hours of electricity in 2023, continuing a pattern of annual decline observed over the past two decades.
These reductions in energy consumption are closely linked to rising energy prices. The Office for National Statistics reported that in January 2022, 79% of adults who experienced an increased cost of living cited higher gas and electricity bills as a contributing factor.
In summary, the significant rise in energy costs has compelled many UK households to reduce their energy usage over the past three years.
There's little doubt that energy consumption has reduced as a result of much higher prices. I would add though that a significant reason for the bolded bit continuing a pattern of decline over the past 20 years is as a result of much higher efficiency of electrical appliances and lighting.
Of course I agree some appliances are (must be) helping too.
I read (maybe wrongly) that when @chizz said 'In summary, the significant rise in energy costs has compelled many UK households to reduce their energy usage over the past three years.' that as the OBR conclusion ad not his own?
Regardless 10% is a lot surely and must have a positive impact. Will anyone argue prices need to remain at a higher level than historically to help that be maintained?
Agree with all of that. My point was in relation to electricity consumption being on a downward curve for 20 years, not just the last three during which the cost would almost certainly have played the major part.
Gonna ask again in case any on here who are well informed know - has domestic use of energy seen a decline in the last 3 years because many have been ‘forced’ to because of the very real cost rises?
My curiosity is whether we show as a nation we can manage with less when the incentive/penalty is there?
Im not suggesting it’s an acceptable solution (far from it) but curious and if that shows there may be some linked solutions - it’s sometimes said for example some households over heat their homes rather than putting on a jumper etc. and we need to encourage better behaviours.
I’d also think the government could spend on things like meaningful grants for insulation that aren’t means tested / linked to outdated council tax bands.
Yes, domestic energy consumption in the UK has declined over the past three years, probably largely due to significant increases in energy prices. According to the Office for Budget Responsibility, domestic natural gas consumption fell by 10% in 2022 compared to 2019. This reduction is probably attributable to households responding to higher energy costs by curtailing their usage.
Similarly, household electricity consumption has been on a downward trend. Data indicates that UK households consumed approximately 92 terawatt-hours of electricity in 2023, continuing a pattern of annual decline observed over the past two decades.
These reductions in energy consumption are closely linked to rising energy prices. The Office for National Statistics reported that in January 2022, 79% of adults who experienced an increased cost of living cited higher gas and electricity bills as a contributing factor.
In summary, the significant rise in energy costs has compelled many UK households to reduce their energy usage over the past three years.
There's little doubt that energy consumption has reduced as a result of much higher prices. I would add though that a significant reason for the bolded bit continuing a pattern of decline over the past 20 years is as a result of much higher efficiency of electrical appliances and lighting.
Of course I agree some appliances are (must be) helping too.
I read (maybe wrongly) that when @chizz said 'In summary, the significant rise in energy costs has compelled many UK households to reduce their energy usage over the past three years.' that as the OBR conclusion ad not his own?
Regardless 10% is a lot surely and must have a positive impact. Will anyone argue prices need to remain at a higher level than historically to help that be maintained?
Renewable sources of energy should reduce bills, so surely better for all if we move to renewables. That would result in lower bills and lower emissions.
Gonna ask again in case any on here who are well informed know - has domestic use of energy seen a decline in the last 3 years because many have been ‘forced’ to because of the very real cost rises?
My curiosity is whether we show as a nation we can manage with less when the incentive/penalty is there?
Im not suggesting it’s an acceptable solution (far from it) but curious and if that shows there may be some linked solutions - it’s sometimes said for example some households over heat their homes rather than putting on a jumper etc. and we need to encourage better behaviours.
I’d also think the government could spend on things like meaningful grants for insulation that aren’t means tested / linked to outdated council tax bands.
Yes, domestic energy consumption in the UK has declined over the past three years, probably largely due to significant increases in energy prices. According to the Office for Budget Responsibility, domestic natural gas consumption fell by 10% in 2022 compared to 2019. This reduction is probably attributable to households responding to higher energy costs by curtailing their usage.
Similarly, household electricity consumption has been on a downward trend. Data indicates that UK households consumed approximately 92 terawatt-hours of electricity in 2023, continuing a pattern of annual decline observed over the past two decades.
These reductions in energy consumption are closely linked to rising energy prices. The Office for National Statistics reported that in January 2022, 79% of adults who experienced an increased cost of living cited higher gas and electricity bills as a contributing factor.
In summary, the significant rise in energy costs has compelled many UK households to reduce their energy usage over the past three years.
There's little doubt that energy consumption has reduced as a result of much higher prices. I would add though that a significant reason for the bolded bit continuing a pattern of decline over the past 20 years is as a result of much higher efficiency of electrical appliances and lighting.
Of course I agree some appliances are (must be) helping too.
I read (maybe wrongly) that when @chizz said 'In summary, the significant rise in energy costs has compelled many UK households to reduce their energy usage over the past three years.' that as the OBR conclusion ad not his own?
Regardless 10% is a lot surely and must have a positive impact. Will anyone argue prices need to remain at a higher level than historically to help that be maintained?
Agree with all of that. My point was in relation to electricity consumption being on a downward curve for 20 years, not just the last three during which the cost would almost certainly have played the major part.
So to develop that further are we at a point / on a trend to a point that our future and additional personal actions are now much less important (because we use more energy efficient products and have cut our heating demands) than what 'industry' does and the smaller things like reducing meat consumption (and other steps) will perhaps not have the material impact needed ? I don't suggest we can be complacent or change behaviours back.
Is the real remaining change needed only going to be able to come from industry and renewables given what domestic changes have already been achieved? I was pleasantly surprised by the10% figure.
I still think insulation / double glazing investment etc. by government (and not individuals) is a real option to reduce further heating demands.
Energy pricing is based on outdated criteria, ie price is link to the price of a barrel of oil/gas, even though it comes from renewables..
Yes I mentioned that yesterday, that needs to change.
Not sure it does from an end user perspective . We as consumers don’t really choose where it comes from we just try and grab the best deal for ourselves.
The model only needs to change if it is impeding suppliers doing the ‘renewable’ thing.
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You were warned.
https://luxembourg.public.lu/en/living/mobility/public-transport.html
We already have 'free' emergency services, primary/secondary education, health services, police, national defence, motorways, commercial television, libraries, etc. (of course most are ultimately paid from taxes). Why not transport?
All the disadvantages I can think of are outweighed by the advantages. Would certainly make people think twice about driving if a free alternative were available.
I don't buy them people see them when their out and about and buy them as a joke.
As I've been trying to tell fellow Lifer's for years, the Media and the "Establishment" lied for years and did everything they possibly could to destroy Trump and his supporters.
Why? because he couldn't be bought, and because he wanted to return the country to prosperity, greatness, and common sense, rather than continuing along the course of the ultra progressive far left, who's goal was to re invent the World as we knew it, and change literally everything, right down to inventing multiple sexes.
Within his first couple of days he has already mandated that only 2 sexes exist (crazy that such a move should ever have even been necessary) Hostages are finally starting to be released, the Stock Market is booming, Illegal Immigrants are being deported, Troops have been deployed to secure the border, World Leaders are taking notice and are now ready to negotiate on ending the wars.
The World (Excluding CL🤣) is suddenly returning to Common Sense and optimism.
It's a shame we can't discuss this further, but like you, I would like this thread to stay open as I'm finding it very educational and enlightening.
I felt that I had to afford you the courtesy of a reply and I sincerely hope that you avoid the kind of abuse that has been levelled at me over the last 8 years.
Dear🤣
That said, I thought Kamala Harris was a spectacularly weak candidate. A very poor public speaker in an age where the media is king.
Trump being the genius that he is, bypassed the Legacy Media.
Someone like DeSantis wouldn't have had the same savvy or perception, and would have been taken down and taken out.
My curiosity is whether we show as a nation we can manage with less when the incentive/penalty is there?
Im not suggesting it’s an acceptable solution (far from it) but curious and if that shows there may be some linked solutions - it’s sometimes said for example some households over heat their homes rather than putting on a jumper etc. and we need to encourage better behaviours.
I read (maybe wrongly) that when @chizz said 'In summary, the significant rise in energy costs has compelled many UK households to reduce their energy usage over the past three years.' that as the OBR conclusion ad not his own?
Regardless 10% is a lot surely and must have a positive impact. Will anyone argue prices need to remain at a higher level than historically to help that be maintained?
Agree with all of that. My point was in relation to electricity consumption being on a downward curve for 20 years, not just the last three during which the cost would almost certainly have played the major part.
Is the real remaining change needed only going to be able to come from industry and renewables given what domestic changes have already been achieved? I was pleasantly surprised by the10% figure.
I still think insulation / double glazing investment etc. by government (and not individuals) is a real option to reduce further heating demands.