Climate Emergency
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Most of Scotland's wind turbines are locked down for the next 24hours, due to gale force winds. Wind power works in countries like Denmark were they had no or very little natural fossil fuels and was imported, they had a 40 year head start when they realised that importing coal/oil was not sustainable.in the long run so turned to wind power, very few of the wind turbines are on land mostly on the coast but not really offshore0
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First day in decades that wind turbines are actually making a useful contribution2
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You know this isn't facebook or X, right?cafcnick1992 said:First day in decades that wind turbines are actually making a useful contribution10 -
Source?cafcnick1992 said:First day in decades that wind turbines are actually making a useful contribution0 -
XME14addick said:
Source?cafcnick1992 said:First day in decades that wind turbines are actually making a useful contribution2 -
cafcnick1992 said:First day in decades that wind turbines are actually making a useful contribution
i thought they had to turn them off on very windy days…shows what I know…0 -
Very windy no. Storm force yes.letthegoodtimesroll said:cafcnick1992 said:First day in decades that wind turbines are actually making a useful contribution
i thought they had to turn them off on very windy days…shows what I know…1 -
They are very good at killing Birds of Preycafcnick1992 said:First day in decades that wind turbines are actually making a useful contribution3 -
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According to the National Grid, by 2023, wind power contributed 29.4% of the UK’s total electricity generation. So your comment is about as accurate as it is funny.cafcnick1992 said:First day in decades that wind turbines are actually making a useful contribution9 - Sponsored links:
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Don't blame the turbines. It's their own fault for not looking where they're going. They can spot a mouse or vole on the ground from distance, but not a dirty great turbine blade moving until it's too late. 😉queensland_addick said:
They are very good at killing Birds of Preycafcnick1992 said:First day in decades that wind turbines are actually making a useful contribution2 -
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They are very good at killing Birds of Preycafcnick1992 said:First day in decades that wind turbines are actually making a useful contribution"Climate change poses the single biggest threat to birds and other wildlife. Current science suggests that one third of all land-based species could be committed, by 2050, towards eventual extinction if extensive action is not taken to reduce our carbon footprint. This means that low carbon energy sources like wind turbines play a significant role in saving nature". RSPB
There's stuff that can be done to minimise bird strikes. Apparently painting blades black reduces bird strikes by 70%. Let's not use the comparatively small number of deaths caused by turbines as a red herring to put people off of wind power. The number one priority now is to get carbon emissions under control. When we've done that, then will be the time to really focus on other possibilities.
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That looks like a current daily figure, very misleading.ME14addick said:
If you look at the "All" tab, it says 22%, or the "Weekly" tab, it says 19% renewables2 -
I said CURRENTLY that is the live figure, nothing misleading about it.queensland_addick said:
That looks like a current daily figure, very misleading.ME14addick said:
If you look at the "All" tab, it says 22%, or the "Weekly" tab, it says 19% renewables3 -
The daily tab is as equally misleading as using "All". That goes back to 2012 so not a really good indicatior of the current capabilities of renewables. What do you think of the figures for "Past Year"? 37.5% renewable and 27.9% fossil fuels. Good progress since 2012 aye?queensland_addick said:
That looks like a current daily figure, very misleading.ME14addick said:
If you look at the "All" tab, it says 22%, or the "Weekly" tab, it says 19% renewables
(I realise ME14 was replying to cafcnick apparently trying to misleading himself about wind power)5 -
You did indeed, and I'm sure you weren't really trying to suggest that renewables account for nearly half of the UK's power supply (other than for the past 5 minutes maybe 🤔)ME14addick said:
I said CURRENTLY that is the live figure, nothing misleading about it.queensland_addick said:
That looks like a current daily figure, very misleading.ME14addick said:
If you look at the "All" tab, it says 22%, or the "Weekly" tab, it says 19% renewables2 -
Why make the comment then? The site shows live figures, you are becoming more and more ridiculous with your comments.queensland_addick said:
You did indeed, and I'm sure you weren't really trying to suggest that renewables account for nearly half of the UK's power supply (other than for the past 5 minutes maybe 🤔)ME14addick said:
I said CURRENTLY that is the live figure, nothing misleading about it.queensland_addick said:
That looks like a current daily figure, very misleading.ME14addick said:
If you look at the "All" tab, it says 22%, or the "Weekly" tab, it says 19% renewables7 -
100% correct.Stig said:queensland_addick said:
They are very good at killing Birds of Preycafcnick1992 said:First day in decades that wind turbines are actually making a useful contribution"Climate change poses the single biggest threat to birds and other wildlife. Current science suggests that one third of all land-based species could be committed, by 2050, towards eventual extinction if extensive action is not taken to reduce our carbon footprint. This means that low carbon energy sources like wind turbines play a significant role in saving nature". RSPB
There's stuff that can be done to minimise bird strikes. Apparently painting blades black reduces bird strikes by 70%. Let's not use the comparatively small number of deaths caused by turbines as a red herring to put people off of wind power. The number one priority now is to get carbon emissions under control. When we've done that, then will be the time to really focus on other possibilities.
But that doesn't distract from the fact that millions of Birds of Prey, Songbirds and even Bats are killed every year, whilst also being a horrible eye sore on the countryside.1 -
And that the government's reliance on them is making everyone poorer and scaring off industry.7
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I haven't read this, so won't comment.queensland_addick said:
100% correct.Stig said:queensland_addick said:
They are very good at killing Birds of Preycafcnick1992 said:First day in decades that wind turbines are actually making a useful contribution"Climate change poses the single biggest threat to birds and other wildlife. Current science suggests that one third of all land-based species could be committed, by 2050, towards eventual extinction if extensive action is not taken to reduce our carbon footprint. This means that low carbon energy sources like wind turbines play a significant role in saving nature". RSPB
There's stuff that can be done to minimise bird strikes. Apparently painting blades black reduces bird strikes by 70%. Let's not use the comparatively small number of deaths caused by turbines as a red herring to put people off of wind power. The number one priority now is to get carbon emissions under control. When we've done that, then will be the time to really focus on other possibilities.
But that doesn't distract from the fact that millions of Birds of Prey, Songbirds and even Bats are killed every year, whilst also being a horrible eye sore on the countryside.
How many birds are killed by wind turbines in the UK? - BBC Science Focus Magazine2 -
I refuse to believe that.ME14addick said:
Why make the comment then? The site shows live figures, you are becoming more and more ridiculous with your comments.queensland_addick said:
You did indeed, and I'm sure you weren't really trying to suggest that renewables account for nearly half of the UK's power supply (other than for the past 5 minutes maybe 🤔)ME14addick said:
I said CURRENTLY that is the live figure, nothing misleading about it.queensland_addick said:
That looks like a current daily figure, very misleading.ME14addick said:
If you look at the "All" tab, it says 22%, or the "Weekly" tab, it says 19% renewables
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Why did you post a meaningless figure?ME14addick said:
Why make the comment then? The site shows live figures, you are becoming more and more ridiculous with your comments.queensland_addick said:
You did indeed, and I'm sure you weren't really trying to suggest that renewables account for nearly half of the UK's power supply (other than for the past 5 minutes maybe 🤔)ME14addick said:
I said CURRENTLY that is the live figure, nothing misleading about it.queensland_addick said:
That looks like a current daily figure, very misleading.ME14addick said:
If you look at the "All" tab, it says 22%, or the "Weekly" tab, it says 19% renewables
Who cares what the number is at this very second, it's irrelevant.1 -
Let's not allow turbine bird strikes to be used as an argument against an increase in the use of wind turbines.Stig said:queensland_addick said:
They are very good at killing Birds of Preycafcnick1992 said:First day in decades that wind turbines are actually making a useful contribution"Climate change poses the single biggest threat to birds and other wildlife. Current science suggests that one third of all land-based species could be committed, by 2050, towards eventual extinction if extensive action is not taken to reduce our carbon footprint. This means that low carbon energy sources like wind turbines play a significant role in saving nature". RSPB
There's stuff that can be done to minimise bird strikes. Apparently painting blades black reduces bird strikes by 70%. Let's not use the comparatively small number of deaths caused by turbines as a red herring to put people off of wind power. The number one priority now is to get carbon emissions under control. When we've done that, then will be the time to really focus on other possibilities.
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The countries striving towards renewable energy will do better than those relying on fossil fuels. If climate change doesn't wipe us out first, those countries relying on the finite fossil fuels will be left behind. That's why we in the UK need to move to non fossil fuels as quickly as we can.1
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not as meaningless as claiming that "millions" of birds are killed by wind turbines.queensland_addick said:
Why did you post a meaningless figure?ME14addick said:
Why make the comment then? The site shows live figures, you are becoming more and more ridiculous with your comments.queensland_addick said:
You did indeed, and I'm sure you weren't really trying to suggest that renewables account for nearly half of the UK's power supply (other than for the past 5 minutes maybe 🤔)ME14addick said:
I said CURRENTLY that is the live figure, nothing misleading about it.queensland_addick said:
That looks like a current daily figure, very misleading.ME14addick said:
If you look at the "All" tab, it says 22%, or the "Weekly" tab, it says 19% renewables
Who cares what the number is at this very second, it's irrelevant.9 -
It wasn't a meaningless figure, someone else was making a false claim about wind generation. I looked at the National Grid LIVE figure and quoted the current figure, meaning at the time of posting.queensland_addick said:
Why did you post a meaningless figure?ME14addick said:
Why make the comment then? The site shows live figures, you are becoming more and more ridiculous with your comments.queensland_addick said:
You did indeed, and I'm sure you weren't really trying to suggest that renewables account for nearly half of the UK's power supply (other than for the past 5 minutes maybe 🤔)ME14addick said:
I said CURRENTLY that is the live figure, nothing misleading about it.queensland_addick said:
That looks like a current daily figure, very misleading.ME14addick said:
If you look at the "All" tab, it says 22%, or the "Weekly" tab, it says 19% renewables
Who cares what the number is at this very second, it's irrelevant.1 -
Thank goodness you put "currently". Otherwise some might not realise the figure you posted was the "current" figure.ME14addick said:4 -
Around 5 million globally according to estimates:arthur said:
not as meaningless as claiming that "millions" of birds are killed by wind turbines.queensland_addick said:
Why did you post a meaningless figure?ME14addick said:
Why make the comment then? The site shows live figures, you are becoming more and more ridiculous with your comments.queensland_addick said:
You did indeed, and I'm sure you weren't really trying to suggest that renewables account for nearly half of the UK's power supply (other than for the past 5 minutes maybe 🤔)ME14addick said:
I said CURRENTLY that is the live figure, nothing misleading about it.queensland_addick said:
That looks like a current daily figure, very misleading.ME14addick said:
If you look at the "All" tab, it says 22%, or the "Weekly" tab, it says 19% renewables
Who cares what the number is at this very second, it's irrelevant.
https://www.sustainabilitybynumbers.com/p/wind-power-bird-deaths1 -
Who? Why didn't you quote him ?ME14addick said:
It wasn't a meaningless figure, someone else was making a false claim about wind generation. I looked at the National Grid LIVE figure and quoted the current figure, meaning at the time of posting.queensland_addick said:
Why did you post a meaningless figure?ME14addick said:
Why make the comment then? The site shows live figures, you are becoming more and more ridiculous with your comments.queensland_addick said:
You did indeed, and I'm sure you weren't really trying to suggest that renewables account for nearly half of the UK's power supply (other than for the past 5 minutes maybe 🤔)ME14addick said:
I said CURRENTLY that is the live figure, nothing misleading about it.queensland_addick said:
That looks like a current daily figure, very misleading.ME14addick said:
If you look at the "All" tab, it says 22%, or the "Weekly" tab, it says 19% renewables
Who cares what the number is at this very second, it's irrelevant.
Someone joked about Wind Turbines specifically not making a useful contribution.
But you posted figures for all renewable energy ( not just Wind Turbines) so how is anyone supposed to know who you are responding to or what point you are trying to make?1
