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Nah it’s a joke. Get off your incredibly high horse.cantersaddick said:
It's almost like the constant belittling and taking the piss out of people discussing the efforts they make towards preventing the climate disaster on a thread about discussing that, is if nothing else a bit of a dick move.SporadicAddick said:I don't flush the toilet if it's just wee.
Looking forward to other fascinating anecdotes about lifer's domestic approach to mundane household chores and ablutions.11 -
It's a joke you've made in pretty much the same way at least 8 times in the last 3 days from a very quick scan. It's always at the same couple of people when they are making a genuine point.SporadicAddick said:
Nah it’s a joke. Get off your incredibly high horse.cantersaddick said:
It's almost like the constant belittling and taking the piss out of people discussing the efforts they make towards preventing the climate disaster on a thread about discussing that, is if nothing else a bit of a dick move.SporadicAddick said:I don't flush the toilet if it's just wee.
Looking forward to other fascinating anecdotes about lifer's domestic approach to mundane household chores and ablutions.
Rather than me being on a high horse. The condescending nature of your repetitive "joke" shows the opposit to be true.4 -
Calm down tree huggercantersaddick said:
It's a joke you've made in pretty much the same way at least 8 times in the last 3 days from a very quick scan. It's always at the same couple of people when they are making a genuine point.SporadicAddick said:
Nah it’s a joke. Get off your incredibly high horse.cantersaddick said:
It's almost like the constant belittling and taking the piss out of people discussing the efforts they make towards preventing the climate disaster on a thread about discussing that, is if nothing else a bit of a dick move.SporadicAddick said:I don't flush the toilet if it's just wee.
Looking forward to other fascinating anecdotes about lifer's domestic approach to mundane household chores and ablutions.
Rather than me being on a high horse. The condescending nature of your repetitive "joke" shows the opposit to be true.6 -
So my repeating the joke means you are on a very low horse?cantersaddick said:
It's a joke you've made in pretty much the same way at least 8 times in the last 3 days from a very quick scan. It's always at the same couple of people when they are making a genuine point.SporadicAddick said:
Nah it’s a joke. Get off your incredibly high horse.cantersaddick said:
It's almost like the constant belittling and taking the piss out of people discussing the efforts they make towards preventing the climate disaster on a thread about discussing that, is if nothing else a bit of a dick move.SporadicAddick said:I don't flush the toilet if it's just wee.
Looking forward to other fascinating anecdotes about lifer's domestic approach to mundane household chores and ablutions.
Rather than me being on a high horse. The condescending nature of your repetitive "joke" shows the opposit to be true.
I know that’s not true. You and a couple of others are sanctimonious beyond belief, and not just on this subject.
…and I never look to have a laugh an any individuals expense. I have a laugh at silly or amusing content. If that content happens to come from the same people then that’s unfortunate, but I don’t track it.9 -
Lol okay. You're yet to contribute anything to this thread other than digs at people that are trying things. You take people discussing options as people telling others what to do even though that has never happened on this thread. You don't have to agree with the things people are trying or you may not think it makes a difference but you could try not to be a colossal twat about it.SporadicAddick said:
So my repeating the joke means you are on a very low horse?cantersaddick said:
It's a joke you've made in pretty much the same way at least 8 times in the last 3 days from a very quick scan. It's always at the same couple of people when they are making a genuine point.SporadicAddick said:
Nah it’s a joke. Get off your incredibly high horse.cantersaddick said:
It's almost like the constant belittling and taking the piss out of people discussing the efforts they make towards preventing the climate disaster on a thread about discussing that, is if nothing else a bit of a dick move.SporadicAddick said:I don't flush the toilet if it's just wee.
Looking forward to other fascinating anecdotes about lifer's domestic approach to mundane household chores and ablutions.
Rather than me being on a high horse. The condescending nature of your repetitive "joke" shows the opposit to be true.
I know that’s not true. You and a couple of others are sanctimonious beyond belief, and not just on this subject.
…and I never look to have a laugh an any individuals expense. I have a laugh at silly or amusing content. If that content happens to come from the same people then that’s unfortunate, but I don’t track it.
We get it you pretend to play devil's advocate to try and hide what are actually quite far right views and also avoid committing to an opinion. It's not constructive and it adds fuck all.
Maybe I am sanctimonious to be honest I don't give a fuck what you think. I'm passionate and have a basic level of empathy to care about others. People that hold opinions like yours have fucked the economy, society and the planet for my generation. Sorry for being upset that I basically have no prospect of a future.17 -
Bingo.cantersaddick said:
Lol okay. You're yet to contribute anything to this thread other than digs at people that are trying things. You take people discussing options as people telling others what to do even though that has never happened on this thread. You don't have to agree with the things people are trying or you may not think it makes a difference but you could try not to be a colossal twat about it.SporadicAddick said:
So my repeating the joke means you are on a very low horse?cantersaddick said:
It's a joke you've made in pretty much the same way at least 8 times in the last 3 days from a very quick scan. It's always at the same couple of people when they are making a genuine point.SporadicAddick said:
Nah it’s a joke. Get off your incredibly high horse.cantersaddick said:
It's almost like the constant belittling and taking the piss out of people discussing the efforts they make towards preventing the climate disaster on a thread about discussing that, is if nothing else a bit of a dick move.SporadicAddick said:I don't flush the toilet if it's just wee.
Looking forward to other fascinating anecdotes about lifer's domestic approach to mundane household chores and ablutions.
Rather than me being on a high horse. The condescending nature of your repetitive "joke" shows the opposit to be true.
I know that’s not true. You and a couple of others are sanctimonious beyond belief, and not just on this subject.
…and I never look to have a laugh an any individuals expense. I have a laugh at silly or amusing content. If that content happens to come from the same people then that’s unfortunate, but I don’t track it.
We get it you pretend to play devil's advocate to try and hide what are actually quite far right views and also avoid committing to an opinion. It's not constructive and it adds fuck all.
Maybe I am sanctimonious to be honest I don't give a fuck what you think. I'm passionate and have a basic level of empathy to care about others. People that hold opinions like yours have fucked the economy, society and the planet for my generation. Sorry for being upset that I basically have no prospect of a future.3 -
Based on watching Chris Packham's excellent documentary chronicling the earth's long history, I was curious to know if / what volcanic activity could actually be attributed to climate change given that I already knew eruptions have massively contributed to it before. This is what I found for anyone interested. Our actions may indirectly cause an increase in activity, but that's not beyond doubt and they obviously didn't in the past.
https://www.polytechnique-insights.com/en/columns/planet/climate-change-will-also-have-an-impact-on-volcanic-eruptions/#:~:text=Climate change is altering geological,particular eruption to climate change.
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Chill out young man.2
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That you try and hide your opinions behind this devil's advocate game shows you have an element of shame for them at the very least.SporadicAddick said:
Bingo.cantersaddick said:
Lol okay. You're yet to contribute anything to this thread other than digs at people that are trying things. You take people discussing options as people telling others what to do even though that has never happened on this thread. You don't have to agree with the things people are trying or you may not think it makes a difference but you could try not to be a colossal twat about it.SporadicAddick said:
So my repeating the joke means you are on a very low horse?cantersaddick said:
It's a joke you've made in pretty much the same way at least 8 times in the last 3 days from a very quick scan. It's always at the same couple of people when they are making a genuine point.SporadicAddick said:
Nah it’s a joke. Get off your incredibly high horse.cantersaddick said:
It's almost like the constant belittling and taking the piss out of people discussing the efforts they make towards preventing the climate disaster on a thread about discussing that, is if nothing else a bit of a dick move.SporadicAddick said:I don't flush the toilet if it's just wee.
Looking forward to other fascinating anecdotes about lifer's domestic approach to mundane household chores and ablutions.
Rather than me being on a high horse. The condescending nature of your repetitive "joke" shows the opposit to be true.
I know that’s not true. You and a couple of others are sanctimonious beyond belief, and not just on this subject.
…and I never look to have a laugh an any individuals expense. I have a laugh at silly or amusing content. If that content happens to come from the same people then that’s unfortunate, but I don’t track it.
We get it you pretend to play devil's advocate to try and hide what are actually quite far right views and also avoid committing to an opinion. It's not constructive and it adds fuck all.
Maybe I am sanctimonious to be honest I don't give a fuck what you think. I'm passionate and have a basic level of empathy to care about others. People that hold opinions like yours have fucked the economy, society and the planet for my generation. Sorry for being upset that I basically have no prospect of a future.6 -
And yes before anyone says it I know he's getting his sad little rise out of getting me trigged. I know I shouldn't play his sad little game or let him deliberately take threads away from constructive conversation about the actual topic because he doesn't like said topic.
But guess what, I actually care about positive things rather than having entire personality being about things you don't like. I'm passionate about trying to make the world better so these sad games do get to me eventually.7 - Sponsored links:
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I’m not looking for a sad little rise, but interesting seeing what level you can achieve.cantersaddick said:And yes before anyone says it I know he's getting his sad little rise out of getting me trigged. I know I shouldn't play his sad little game or let him deliberately take threads away from constructive conversation about the actual topic because he doesn't like said topic.
But guess what, I actually care about positive things rather than having entire personality being about things you don't like. I'm passionate about trying to make the world better so these sad games do get to me eventually.
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swordfish said:Based on watching Chris Packham's excellent documentary chronicling the earth's long history, I was curious to know if / what volcanic activity could actually be attributed to climate change given that I already knew eruptions have massively contributed to it before. This is what I found for anyone interested. Our actions may indirectly cause an increase in activity, but that's not beyond doubt and they obviously didn't in the past.
https://www.polytechnique-insights.com/en/columns/planet/climate-change-will-also-have-an-impact-on-volcanic-eruptions/#:~:text=Climate change is altering geological,particular eruption to climate change.
So volcanic eruptions were 30-50 times higher 10,000 years ago when emissions from human activity would have been miniscule compared to today. That's very interesting!
At least we can expect fewer tsunami's forming as a consequence of rising sea levels, so a benefit there.
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Can we? Elsewhere, in other research, I read the opposite, that the risk of tsunamis forming was greatly increased by rising sea levels, but as I was bamboozled by all the research data and terminology accompanying it, so I'm only quoting from an abstract here.queensland_addick said:swordfish said:Based on watching Chris Packham's excellent documentary chronicling the earth's long history, I was curious to know if / what volcanic activity could actually be attributed to climate change given that I already knew eruptions have massively contributed to it before. This is what I found for anyone interested. Our actions may indirectly cause an increase in activity, but that's not beyond doubt and they obviously didn't in the past.
https://www.polytechnique-insights.com/en/columns/planet/climate-change-will-also-have-an-impact-on-volcanic-eruptions/#:~:text=Climate change is altering geological,particular eruption to climate change.
So volcanic eruptions were 30-50 times higher 10,000 years ago when emissions from human activity would have been miniscule compared to today. That's very interesting!
At least we can expect fewer tsunami's forming as a consequence of rising sea levels, so a benefit there.
"Rising sea levels will have overwhelmingly negative impacts on coastal communities globally. With previous research focused on how sea-level rise (SLR) affects storm-induced flooding, we show that SLR will also increase both the frequency and the intensity of tsunami-induced flooding, another significant coastal hazard associated with sea-level extremes. We developed probabilistic tsunami inundation maps for Macau, a densely populated coastal city located in the South China Sea, under current sea-level, 0.5-m SLR, and 1-m SLR conditions, using an extensive Monte Carlo tsunami inundation simulation. Our results indicate that conservative amounts of SLR of 0.5 m (by 2060) and 1 m (by 2100) would dramatically increase the frequency of tsunami-induced flooding incidences by a factor of 1.2 to 2.4 and 1.5 to 4.7, respectively."
Edit - Actually this looks an easier read 5 ways climate change increases the threat of tsunamis, from collapsing ice shelves to sea level rise
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Absolutely fascinating programme that. For me, especially the bit about the 50m year ice age being broken by C02 from volcanoes. That and the massive fungi that no longer exist, because plants developed systems enabling them to grow big enough that meant fungi were left in the shade. Link here for anyone that might have missed this phenomenal piece of television.swordfish said:Based on watching Chris Packham's excellent documentary chronicling the earth's long history, I was curious to know if / what volcanic activity could actually be attributed to climate change given that I already knew eruptions have massively contributed to it before. This is what I found for anyone interested. Our actions may indirectly cause an increase in activity, but that's not beyond doubt and they obviously didn't in the past.
https://www.polytechnique-insights.com/en/columns/planet/climate-change-will-also-have-an-impact-on-volcanic-eruptions/#:~:text=Climate change is altering geological,particular eruption to climate change.
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That's what I took from this part:swordfish said:
Can we? Elsewhere, in other research, I read the opposite, that the risk of tsunamis forming was greatly increased by rising sea levels, but as I was bamboozled by all the research data and terminology accompanying it, so I'm only quoting from an abstract here.queensland_addick said:swordfish said:Based on watching Chris Packham's excellent documentary chronicling the earth's long history, I was curious to know if / what volcanic activity could actually be attributed to climate change given that I already knew eruptions have massively contributed to it before. This is what I found for anyone interested. Our actions may indirectly cause an increase in activity, but that's not beyond doubt and they obviously didn't in the past.
https://www.polytechnique-insights.com/en/columns/planet/climate-change-will-also-have-an-impact-on-volcanic-eruptions/#:~:text=Climate change is altering geological,particular eruption to climate change.
So volcanic eruptions were 30-50 times higher 10,000 years ago when emissions from human activity would have been miniscule compared to today. That's very interesting!
At least we can expect fewer tsunami's forming as a consequence of rising sea levels, so a benefit there.
"Rising sea levels will have overwhelmingly negative impacts on coastal communities globally. With previous research focused on how sea-level rise (SLR) affects storm-induced flooding, we show that SLR will also increase both the frequency and the intensity of tsunami-induced flooding, another significant coastal hazard associated with sea-level extremes. We developed probabilistic tsunami inundation maps for Macau, a densely populated coastal city located in the South China Sea, under current sea-level, 0.5-m SLR, and 1-m SLR conditions, using an extensive Monte Carlo tsunami inundation simulation. Our results indicate that conservative amounts of SLR of 0.5 m (by 2060) and 1 m (by 2100) would dramatically increase the frequency of tsunami-induced flooding incidences by a factor of 1.2 to 2.4 and 1.5 to 4.7, respectively."
Edit - Actually this looks an easier read 5 ways climate change increases the threat of tsunamis, from collapsing ice shelves to sea level rise
And what about magma production at depth?VP. The melting of glaciers over large areas increases magma production at depth. Conversely, for submarine volcanoes, rising sea levels linked to human-induced climate change are increasing pressure on magma chambers. This could reduce magma production.
Less submarine magma production should equate to less submarine eruptions, shouldn't it?1 -
I wouldn't feel confident answering that as I don't have the expertise, but intuitively you'd think so. Seems not though due to how the other forces of nature interact, as explained in the link.queensland_addick said:
That's what I took from this part:swordfish said:
Can we? Elsewhere, in other research, I read the opposite, that the risk of tsunamis forming was greatly increased by rising sea levels, but as I was bamboozled by all the research data and terminology accompanying it, so I'm only quoting from an abstract here.queensland_addick said:swordfish said:Based on watching Chris Packham's excellent documentary chronicling the earth's long history, I was curious to know if / what volcanic activity could actually be attributed to climate change given that I already knew eruptions have massively contributed to it before. This is what I found for anyone interested. Our actions may indirectly cause an increase in activity, but that's not beyond doubt and they obviously didn't in the past.
https://www.polytechnique-insights.com/en/columns/planet/climate-change-will-also-have-an-impact-on-volcanic-eruptions/#:~:text=Climate change is altering geological,particular eruption to climate change.
So volcanic eruptions were 30-50 times higher 10,000 years ago when emissions from human activity would have been miniscule compared to today. That's very interesting!
At least we can expect fewer tsunami's forming as a consequence of rising sea levels, so a benefit there.
"Rising sea levels will have overwhelmingly negative impacts on coastal communities globally. With previous research focused on how sea-level rise (SLR) affects storm-induced flooding, we show that SLR will also increase both the frequency and the intensity of tsunami-induced flooding, another significant coastal hazard associated with sea-level extremes. We developed probabilistic tsunami inundation maps for Macau, a densely populated coastal city located in the South China Sea, under current sea-level, 0.5-m SLR, and 1-m SLR conditions, using an extensive Monte Carlo tsunami inundation simulation. Our results indicate that conservative amounts of SLR of 0.5 m (by 2060) and 1 m (by 2100) would dramatically increase the frequency of tsunami-induced flooding incidences by a factor of 1.2 to 2.4 and 1.5 to 4.7, respectively."
Edit - Actually this looks an easier read 5 ways climate change increases the threat of tsunamis, from collapsing ice shelves to sea level rise
And what about magma production at depth?VP. The melting of glaciers over large areas increases magma production at depth. Conversely, for submarine volcanoes, rising sea levels linked to human-induced climate change are increasing pressure on magma chambers. This could reduce magma production.
Less submarine magma production should equate to less submarine eruptions, shouldn't it?0 -
Indeed. And with so many different forces and events interacting, it's probably impossible to know for sure.swordfish said:
I wouldn't feel confident answering that as I don't have the expertise, but intuitively you'd think so. Seems not though due to how the other forces of nature interact, as explained in the link.queensland_addick said:
That's what I took from this part:swordfish said:
Can we? Elsewhere, in other research, I read the opposite, that the risk of tsunamis forming was greatly increased by rising sea levels, but as I was bamboozled by all the research data and terminology accompanying it, so I'm only quoting from an abstract here.queensland_addick said:swordfish said:Based on watching Chris Packham's excellent documentary chronicling the earth's long history, I was curious to know if / what volcanic activity could actually be attributed to climate change given that I already knew eruptions have massively contributed to it before. This is what I found for anyone interested. Our actions may indirectly cause an increase in activity, but that's not beyond doubt and they obviously didn't in the past.
https://www.polytechnique-insights.com/en/columns/planet/climate-change-will-also-have-an-impact-on-volcanic-eruptions/#:~:text=Climate change is altering geological,particular eruption to climate change.
So volcanic eruptions were 30-50 times higher 10,000 years ago when emissions from human activity would have been miniscule compared to today. That's very interesting!
At least we can expect fewer tsunami's forming as a consequence of rising sea levels, so a benefit there.
"Rising sea levels will have overwhelmingly negative impacts on coastal communities globally. With previous research focused on how sea-level rise (SLR) affects storm-induced flooding, we show that SLR will also increase both the frequency and the intensity of tsunami-induced flooding, another significant coastal hazard associated with sea-level extremes. We developed probabilistic tsunami inundation maps for Macau, a densely populated coastal city located in the South China Sea, under current sea-level, 0.5-m SLR, and 1-m SLR conditions, using an extensive Monte Carlo tsunami inundation simulation. Our results indicate that conservative amounts of SLR of 0.5 m (by 2060) and 1 m (by 2100) would dramatically increase the frequency of tsunami-induced flooding incidences by a factor of 1.2 to 2.4 and 1.5 to 4.7, respectively."
Edit - Actually this looks an easier read 5 ways climate change increases the threat of tsunamis, from collapsing ice shelves to sea level rise
And what about magma production at depth?VP. The melting of glaciers over large areas increases magma production at depth. Conversely, for submarine volcanoes, rising sea levels linked to human-induced climate change are increasing pressure on magma chambers. This could reduce magma production.
Less submarine magma production should equate to less submarine eruptions, shouldn't it?
Hopefully that's where AI may be able to provide answers in the not too distant future.1 -
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Trump being oneME14addick said:7 - Sponsored links:
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Snowy Florida on the news just now.0
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Great post Jessie... Queenies been educating those that won't listen for years here.3
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So what does the future look like? A USA flag on Mars? Drilling for more oil in the Gulf of America whilst battling against the ever intensifying cyclones forming there having depressed the accelerator on the road to oblivion? That's gotta be a price worth paying to make America great again right, because it's gonna be one helluva ride there, so strap in folks. Whoo hoo! The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades.
Well why not wait to "drill baby drill" until after having proved that we can control the thermostat to regulate / reduce greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere first, then it wouldn't matter how much we emit. Now wouldn't that be the bigger step achievement for mankind?5 -
Chippycafc said:Great post Jessie... Queeries been educating those that won't listen for years here.
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Jessie said:Since there's no thread on US politics, I'm going to say this in here.
I was 100% against Trump back when Hilary was running. I couldn't believe Trump won. I thought Americans were crazy. I'd been leaning towards the left for more than 20 years without even knowing - maybe it was a result of me watching Hollywood films and TV series ever since the 90's. Anyway, it wasn't until this past election that I realized why the Dems lost so spectacularly... I read about some policies by the Dems and they were shocking. I have a childhood friend who now lives in New Jersey and she isn't pleased with the Dems either. In my opinion, the left has taken many things way too far. I know 99% of Lifers don't like Trump - I still don't like him either but you really should look more closely to see why he won the election this time. It's partly because the Democratic Party have done awfully in recent years in quite a few areas. Voters always care more about things that directly relate to their own well-being. And I suppose even if it wasn't Trump that was running, the Democratic Party would still have lost this election.
So my point is, step back and take a real look. It's impossible that over half of the population of a country is dumb.
I give you two examples of why I don't like the Dems (especially the Biden administration). One, immigration policies and DEI gone too far. Two, the ridiculously chaotic military withdrawal from Afghanistan. These are just the ones that are off the top of my head.
I had stereotype impressions of the GOP. Now I'm probably more a centrist...There is a very good reason why there is no US politics thread, or any other politics threads. There used to be but all it lead to was bickering, name calling and in some cases outright aggression.We do not need a discussion on US politics on this football forum - plenty of other places online for that.6 -
Queeries!
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Don’t think Chips will be owning up to getting a room’ with Queenie/Queerie anymoreFriend Or Defoe said:Queeries! 
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Lol edited.... Good to see there is still a SOH about despite the state of the country... Something in the last 6 months not too much too smile about. Thank you very much.
You were warned.1 -
We booked the other rooms for you and your mates to explain how you are going to get us out of this mess you put us in.Chaz Hill said:
Don’t think Chips will be owning up to getting a room’ with Queenie/Queerie anymoreFriend Or Defoe said:Queeries! 2
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