Very wealthy people rarely stay very wealthy by throwing away large sums of money.
Which does beg the question why our owners own a loss-making league one football club that only has one real way to become sustainable and that is promotion to the Prem.
The answer to that likely lies in Charlie Methven's investment proposal - he managed to convince the owners they could get to that position far quicker and cheaper than is realistically possible.
I am sure they will soon realise CM's vision is fairytale, what they do next will be of paramount importance to CAFC;
1. Sack CM and the SMT, bring in their own people and provide the necessary funding to achieve. 2. Call it a day and sell us on at a loss to the next bunch. (99.9% of instances this happens quite quickly as we have seen over the past 10 years, they all come in thinking they can do something different but all end up at the same point and that is losing money hand over fist owning a club stuck in the dregs of League One that doesn't even own its assets).
The above is complicated further with the introduction of the new FFP rules coming in to place soon, funnily enough I do actually think these will benefit CAFC in the long term as naturally at this level we have a much higher revenue base than the mjority of teams and other money-bags clubs won't be able to have owners shovelling in investment to buy the league i.e Brum, Wycombe, Wrexham, Huddersfield.
I agree with all of that apart from the Wrexham bit, they havent exactly spent fortunes in the transfer market, I would think that they have spent less than us !
They spend big on wages rather than fees. If they go up again they will need more investment for that to keep working
They also seem to be doing quite well with players that we didnt think were good enough lol
In fairness Elliot Lee and O'connell were both liked here.
Just trying to get my head around having billionaire owners who don't actually spend the money on players when evidently we can spend money.
There are alot of football fans that seem very happy to spend other peoples money !
Well, don't buy a football club then.
The whole point is to buy it and chase a dream, it's unlikely many owners have made a profit from owning a football club until you get to the prem. If you aren't doing it with the ambition of reaching the Premier league and you don't have an affinity to a club, what's the point.
a football club is exactly like any other business. Anyone that buys one ( unless they are a fan of the club ) will set clear budgets and a business plan. Supporters might not like it but that is the facts. I fail to see how our ownership can be criticised for not spending money as they clearly are, it might not be enough for some people’s liking but be careful what you wish for as there are plenty of Nimers and Southalls about mate
Just trying to get my head around having billionaire owners who don't actually spend the money on players when evidently we can spend money.
There are alot of football fans that seem very happy to spend other peoples money !
Well, don't buy a football club then.
The whole point is to buy it and chase a dream, it's unlikely many owners have made a profit from owning a football club until you get to the prem. If you aren't doing it with the ambition of reaching the Premier league and you don't have an affinity to a club, what's the point.
a football club is exactly like any other business. Anyone that buys one ( unless they are a fan of the club ) will set clear budgets and a business plan. Supporters might not like it but that is the facts. I fail to see how our ownership can be criticised for not spending money as they clearly are, it might not be enough for some people’s liking but be careful what you wish for as there are plenty of Nimers and Southalls about mate
I agree, it could be worse. If I truly hated the setup, I wouldn't attend games.
It's just when your owners say we have a top4 budget, we are aiming for promotion etc, and there are at least 3 teams outspending us, what's the plan.
As we can safely assume that when the next lot of championship sides come down, they'll have more expensive squads and be able to spend more.
Anyway my bad, I've started it again, just getting annoyed at seeing clubs who I expected us to match in terms of spending (Wycombe and Huddersfield) and clearly we can't/won't.
Just trying to get my head around having billionaire owners who don't actually spend the money on players when evidently we can spend money.
There are alot of football fans that seem very happy to spend other peoples money !
Well, don't buy a football club then.
The whole point is to buy it and chase a dream, it's unlikely many owners have made a profit from owning a football club until you get to the prem. If you aren't doing it with the ambition of reaching the Premier league and you don't have an affinity to a club, what's the point.
a football club is exactly like any other business. Anyone that buys one ( unless they are a fan of the club ) will set clear budgets and a business plan. Supporters might not like it but that is the facts. I fail to see how our ownership can be criticised for not spending money as they clearly are, it might not be enough for some people’s liking but be careful what you wish for as there are plenty of Nimers and Southalls about mate
I agree, it could be worse. If I truly hated the setup, I wouldn't attend games.
It's just when your owners say we have a top4 budget, we are aiming for promotion etc, and there are at least 3 teams outspending us, what's the plan.
As we can safely assume that when the next lot of championship sides come down, they'll have more expensive squads and be able to spend more.
Anyway my bad, I've started it again, just getting annoyed at seeing clubs who I expected us to match in terms of spending (Wycombe and Huddersfield) and clearly we can't/won't.
Mate Im as frustrated as you believe me but I think the trouble is more with our recruitment rather than our owners stumping up the cash. Its not how much you spend its what you spend it on ! ala Ahadme !!! if I was one of our owners I would be asking hard questions of our recruitment team regarding why they have spent a penny ( let alone the reported £1m ) of my money on someone who wouldnt look out of place in a Sunday league team
"Walsall have rejected two bids from Wycombe for midfielder Jamie Jellis."
Blimey, is there anyone Wycombe aren't in for?
This is the unfortunate problem with overperforming expectations. If the manager goes then Low, Jellis and others are more likely to want to head off too
"Walsall have rejected two bids from Wycombe for midfielder Jamie Jellis."
Blimey, is there anyone Wycombe aren't in for?
This is the unfortunate problem with overperforming expectations. If the manager goes then Low, Jellis and others are more likely to want to head off too
"Walsall have rejected two bids from Wycombe for midfielder Jamie Jellis."
Blimey, is there anyone Wycombe aren't in for?
This is the unfortunate problem with overperforming expectations. If the manager goes then Low, Jellis and others are more likely to want to head off too
Jellis plays for Walsall
My brain has gone, although point still stands just a division below!
Big piece on Wycombe's new owner , sounds like they're going away from finding non league talents to the analytics " buy low and hope to sell for big money" model.
Big piece on Wycombe's new owner , sounds like they're going away from finding non league talents to the analytics " buy low and hope to sell for big money" model.
Not knocking Wycombe, but why them? They have always been a small club and surely their ceiling is championship at best. Even with money spent they, can only bring in relatively low TV money and the gate receipts will remain small. Maybe it's simply a play thing for the rich owner, which I guess is most models nowadays.
Big piece on Wycombe's new owner , sounds like they're going away from finding non league talents to the analytics " buy low and hope to sell for big money" model.
Not knocking Wycombe, but why them? They have always been a small club and surely their ceiling is championship at best. Even with money spent they, can only bring in relatively low TV money and the gate receipts will remain small. Maybe it's simply a play thing for the rich owner, which I guess is most models nowadays.
And their ground can't be expanded due to access problems. One of their previous owners had looked into building a new ground because of this, but in that part of the world it won't be easy.
Big piece on Wycombe's new owner , sounds like they're going away from finding non league talents to the analytics " buy low and hope to sell for big money" model.
Not knocking Wycombe, but why them? They have always been a small club and surely their ceiling is championship at best. Even with money spent they, can only bring in relatively low TV money and the gate receipts will remain small. Maybe it's simply a play thing for the rich owner, which I guess is most models nowadays.
And their ground can't be expanded due to access problems. One of their previous owners had looked into building a new ground because of this, but in that part of the world it won't be easy.
Charles and Taylor might even be the best strike partnership in the league. Assuming they have the players to supply them that's a nightmare combo for defences.
So how comes Wycombe can spend 1.5 million, but we can't?
When funds have been mentioned before, we have been told we can't because of revenue or whatever other excuse.
We sell more tickets than Wycombe, presumably have more revenue as bigger stadium and fan base etc.
Their current squad size is 35 unless the stats online are wrong, we sit at 29. So they don't seem too fussed about a big squad because they can only field 22 of the 35 to play practice matches or whatever other ridiculous excuse it was.
How are Wycombe able to spend what seems like 1.5 million before any outs in January?
Because at the moment owners can put in money as equity and spend what they like and Wycombe have very very wealthy owners. The new rules haven’t been implemented yet.
From what I heard/was told, that isn't correct for us. If that is the case, why didn't we spend a ton of dosh in the summer when we needed to bulk the squad up?
I’m not sure a couple of unknown Scandinavians and an aging centre back represents jaw dropping business. Particualrly when you consider they’ve lost one centre back and are likely to lose the other.
It isn't about the players themselves, or how good they may or may not be. It's the money.
Quite simply because our owners don’t want to invest that sort of money in the playing squad. Brum, Wycombe and Bolton in previous years have all spent significant sums
A lot of Bolton fans aren't happy about it. Others however are saying he's been off it this season and as he's 30 this year it's not a bad time to sell him.
You'd have to say though that the striker signings they've made in this window it will surely see Huddersfield get promoted with Birmingham.
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It's just when your owners say we have a top4 budget, we are aiming for promotion etc, and there are at least 3 teams outspending us, what's the plan.
As we can safely assume that when the next lot of championship sides come down, they'll have more expensive squads and be able to spend more.
Anyway my bad, I've started it again, just getting annoyed at seeing clubs who I expected us to match in terms of spending (Wycombe and Huddersfield) and clearly we can't/won't.
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"Walsall have rejected two bids from Wycombe for midfielder Jamie Jellis."
Blimey, is there anyone Wycombe aren't in for?
Big piece on Wycombe's new owner , sounds like they're going away from finding non league talents to the analytics " buy low and hope to sell for big money" model.
Blackpool sign Tom Bloxham from Shrewsbury,
Showing your age there mate.
Or cheap.
Charles passes a medical , 2.5 year deal at Huddersfield.
You'd have to say though that the striker signings they've made in this window it will surely see Huddersfield get promoted with Birmingham.
23-year old with 14-goals in 23-games this season
Callum Stewart: Shrewsbury Town sign in-form striker from Leamington - BBC Sport