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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,371
    We’ll probably leave him there, but a lack of game time doesn’t always mean a young player isn’t good enough, especially defenders. 

    Colchester changed manager and stopped playing Zach Mitchell in L2, now Jones rates him enough to keep him here rather than loan him out again. 
     
    Konsa didn’t nail down a first choice position with us, spent time at CB, RB and in midfield. He then left for Brentford at a higher level, started more games for them than us and was one of their first choice CBs.
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 3,794
    Scoham said:
    We’ll probably leave him there, but a lack of game time doesn’t always mean a young player isn’t good enough, especially defenders. 

    Colchester changed manager and stopped playing Zach Mitchell in L2, now Jones rates him enough to keep him here rather than loan him out again. 
     
    Konsa didn’t nail down a first choice position with us, spent time at CB, RB and in midfield. He then left for Brentford at a higher level, started more games for them than us and was one of their first choice CBs.
    Think you’re clutching at straws there. Mitchell hasn’t proven anything, and the fact Konsa was an established first choice player being moved around positions at that age is if anything suggestive of his talent to work out where he could help us most rather than just playing in his natural Position. And quite frankly if he was anywhere near the level at the moment, Hartlepool would likely be doing the same with asiimwe , I expect 
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,442
    The Addicks are set to be without Kayne Ramsay (knee), Lloyd Jones (leg), Gassan Ahadme (chest) and Chuks Aneke (groin) for Tuesday's trip to Oakwell.
    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/match-preview-barnsley-v-charlton-1
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,548
    Any word on how long he is out for?
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,986
    edited October 2024
    cafcsinger said:
    Any word on how long he is out for?
    Well we've had claims of weeks apparently from Methven and someone else claiming a physio has said it was an ACL which would be the season gone. So to answer your question, no!

    EDIT: as pointed out, the tweet mentioned Jones not Ramsay
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,371
    fenaddick said:
    cafcsinger said:
    Any word on how long he is out for?
    Well we've had claims of weeks apparently from Methven and someone else claiming a physio has said it was an ACL which would be the season gone. So to answer your question, no!
    The tweet (now deleted) mentioning weeks was about Jones, not Ramsay (no mention of him if the tweet is what you’re referring to).
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,986
    Scoham said:
    fenaddick said:
    cafcsinger said:
    Any word on how long he is out for?
    Well we've had claims of weeks apparently from Methven and someone else claiming a physio has said it was an ACL which would be the season gone. So to answer your question, no!
    The tweet (now deleted) mentioning weeks was about Jones, not Ramsay (no mention of him if the tweet is what you’re referring to).
    Yes good point. That's the problem with deleting tweets, our memories can fail! Suspect it's the ACL then and he's done for the season
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    Ironically, when I would always have guessed Ramsay, I think that Jones could be a bigger miss. Mitchell doesnt look half the player with Gillesphey next to him.
  • Kips
    Kips Posts: 689
    DamoNorthStand said:
    Ironically, when I would always have guessed Ramsay, I think that Jones could be a bigger miss. Mitchell doesnt look half the player with Gillesphey next to him.
    Do you mind, that's Nathan's favourite technician you're referring to there. 
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,333
    Surely Ramsay has had a scan and we should know the result?
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  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,351
    DamoNorthStand said:
    Ironically, when I would always have guessed Ramsay, I think that Jones could be a bigger miss. Mitchell doesnt look half the player with Gillesphey next to him.
    Tbf, you could say the same for Mitchell helping Jones. Jones looks far more assured with Mitchell next to him than when he featured with anyone else last season. 

    I think they both compliment eachothers flaws fairly well. The sooner Jones is back, the better, no one is on his level as an aerial presence at the club.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,241
    ct_addick said:
    Surely Ramsay has had a scan and we should know the result?
    Depends on if it swelled up or not, but yes you should get the results the same day of the scan
  • 000__Jaaaaay__000
    000__Jaaaaay__000 Posts: 2,342
    Been told He’s now waiting to see a specialist, whatever that means! 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,241
    000__Jaaaaay__000 said:
    Been told He’s now waiting to see a specialist, whatever that means! 
    If he sees anyone like my specialist (Sam Rajaratnam) then he's in incredibly good hands
  • Brownie12
    Brownie12 Posts: 1,525
    000__Jaaaaay__000 said:
    Been told He’s now waiting to see a specialist, whatever that means! 
    I reckon it means he is waiting to see a specialist! 
  • Gisappointed
    Gisappointed Posts: 985
    Specialist sounds like surgery.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,371
    sam3110 said:
    000__Jaaaaay__000 said:
    Been told He’s now waiting to see a specialist, whatever that means! 
    If he sees anyone like my specialist (Sam Rajaratnam) then he's in incredibly good hands
    Not a name I ever imagined reading on here. I work in analytics and when I started out I had a job at one of the places he worked which sometimes included putting together analysis broken down by consultant.

    One of the directors found out I supported us and told me when she was a nurse she looked after Richard Murray’s wife when she was ill.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,351
    000__Jaaaaay__000 said:
    Been told He’s now waiting to see a specialist, whatever that means! 
    With how shit our countries health care system is, that's definitely him out for the this season then 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,241
    Swisdom said:
    I believe it is NOT an ACL injury 
    I bloody hope so! Looked like he held the outside of his knee so maybe an LCL which is more like 8-12 weeks 
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  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,190
    Looked more MCL to me
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    ct_addick said:
    Surely Ramsay has had a scan and we should know the result?
     We should not know the answer, the club, player and medical staff should know. All we should get is a timeline. 
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,624
    One thing that is obvious with NJ is that he gives minimal public info about player injuries which I find quite understandable
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Braziliance said:
    000__Jaaaaay__000 said:
    Been told He’s now waiting to see a specialist, whatever that means! 
    With how shit our countries health care system is, that's definitely him out for the this season then 
    Lol, he will be dealt with privately not on the NHS. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,986
    Injury described as “not good” and “not weeks” which suggests he’s out for a good chunk of the season

    https://www.charltonafc.com/video/player/0_f4al1by8
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,442
    Jones also gave the latest on Kayne Ramsay: "IIt’s not a good injury; no injuries are good, but it's not real positive news. We're waiting for a diagnosis in terms of time scales. It’s not an easy injury where he will be back in a few weeks. That is a blow for the boy firstly and for us as he's been in such good form.”
    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/jones-every-game-poses-different-challenge
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Big shame. The knee is a complicated joint and just avoiding an ACl tear, does not equate to good news.

    He overextended his knee with full distribution of his weight, and I can only presume a lot of stress to a few components of the knee (sadly).

    His feints and shimmies are a real plus, but the brain and body were disconnected for a millisecond, leading to bad injury.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    Why is it always the good ones that seem to get these long term injuries? Whole new medical department and they're still dropping like flies. Cursed.

    Get well soon, Kayne.
  • covered_end_junior
    covered_end_junior Posts: 4,521
    Comfortably our best and most consistent player so far this season so that's a right kick in the nuts. 
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,348
    Exiled_Addick said:
    Why is it always the good ones that seem to get these long term injuries? Whole new medical department and they're still dropping like flies. Cursed.

    Get well soon, Kayne.
    Very true Charltonism that Exiled.

    We have had enough deadly duds over the last 10 years, but it is always the promising players that get crocked long term.

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