EFL 24/25 scores and results

I'll be interested to see how Birmingham get on with their next 4 games which are all "tough" by league one standards. If they get a decent points hull from their upcoming games we could see them start to pull away a bit. 

West2003 said:

golfaddick said:

Covered End said:

golfaddick said:

jakecafc said:

It's been all Birmingham. They should run away with this league.

Their front 2 have 6 goals between them. Wrexham have 2 players with 5 between them. 

35 players have scored 2 or more goals across league 1. None of our players have scored more than once.

We are now down to 3rd. The 3 teams directly below us are within 3 points and all have a game in hand.

And I'm not being negative I'm.just stating facts.

Oh......and by the way, Birmingham haven't kept a clean sheet tonight BUT ARE WINNING BECAUSE THEY HAVE SCORED 3 TIMES.

YOU ARE SO NEGATIVE YOU THINK THAT THIS IS POSITIVE.

Scoring 3 and conceding 1 is certainly better than scoring 1 & letting in 0.

Simple maths. And the table is based on points & then Goal Difference. Not clean sheets. 

Couldn't give a shit if we didnt keep another clean sheet between now & the end of the season as long as we scored 2 more than our opponents. 

I ask this out of curiosity...

Were you also saying this when we couldn’t keep out a Port Vale side that went on to be relegated when we drew 3-3 there as part of our own slide towards the League One relegation zone?

My point is, keeping a clean sheet is not an issue if you can score 2 or 3 yourself, like Birmingham did last night. There is a big difference to just letting in 1 to letting in 3.....as well you know.

It seems that people are obsessed with a  1-0 "clean sheet win" and with it winning "dirty" or "ugly"......whereas I would be happier playing attacking football where letting in a goal is not an issue because we are creating chances up the other end & likely to come out on top more often than not. 

It is early days but the league table doesn't lie. There are 3 teams on 13 points but we are 3rd for a reason. So just ask yourself, would you rather win 1-0 every week & end up 3rd or 3-1 and end up top (or even 2-1 as if level on GD the table is based on goals scored and not goals conceded). 

golfaddick said:

West2003 said:

golfaddick said:

Covered End said:

golfaddick said:

jakecafc said:

It's been all Birmingham. They should run away with this league.

Their front 2 have 6 goals between them. Wrexham have 2 players with 5 between them. 

35 players have scored 2 or more goals across league 1. None of our players have scored more than once.

We are now down to 3rd. The 3 teams directly below us are within 3 points and all have a game in hand.

And I'm not being negative I'm.just stating facts.

Oh......and by the way, Birmingham haven't kept a clean sheet tonight BUT ARE WINNING BECAUSE THEY HAVE SCORED 3 TIMES.

YOU ARE SO NEGATIVE YOU THINK THAT THIS IS POSITIVE.

Scoring 3 and conceding 1 is certainly better than scoring 1 & letting in 0.

Simple maths. And the table is based on points & then Goal Difference. Not clean sheets. 

Couldn't give a shit if we didnt keep another clean sheet between now & the end of the season as long as we scored 2 more than our opponents. 

I ask this out of curiosity...

Were you also saying this when we couldn’t keep out a Port Vale side that went on to be relegated when we drew 3-3 there as part of our own slide towards the League One relegation zone?

My point is, keeping a clean sheet is not an issue if you can score 2 or 3 yourself, like Birmingham did last night. There is a big difference to just letting in 1 to letting in 3.....as well you know.

It seems that people are obsessed with a  1-0 "clean sheet win" and with it winning "dirty" or "ugly"......whereas I would be happier playing attacking football where letting in a goal is not an issue because we are creating chances up the other end & likely to come out on top more often than not. 

It is early days but the league table doesn't lie. There are 3 teams on 13 points but we are 3rd for a reason. So just ask yourself, would you rather win 1-0 every week & end up 3rd or 3-1 and end up top (or even 2-1 as if level on GD the table is based on goals scored and not goals conceded). 

Maths isn’t my strong point but I’m pretty certain that if we won 1-0 every week we would finish 3rd mate

golfaddick said:

West2003 said:

golfaddick said:

Covered End said:

golfaddick said:

jakecafc said:

It's been all Birmingham. They should run away with this league.

Their front 2 have 6 goals between them. Wrexham have 2 players with 5 between them. 

35 players have scored 2 or more goals across league 1. None of our players have scored more than once.

We are now down to 3rd. The 3 teams directly below us are within 3 points and all have a game in hand.

And I'm not being negative I'm.just stating facts.

Oh......and by the way, Birmingham haven't kept a clean sheet tonight BUT ARE WINNING BECAUSE THEY HAVE SCORED 3 TIMES.

YOU ARE SO NEGATIVE YOU THINK THAT THIS IS POSITIVE.

Scoring 3 and conceding 1 is certainly better than scoring 1 & letting in 0.

Simple maths. And the table is based on points & then Goal Difference. Not clean sheets. 

Couldn't give a shit if we didnt keep another clean sheet between now & the end of the season as long as we scored 2 more than our opponents. 

I ask this out of curiosity...

Were you also saying this when we couldn’t keep out a Port Vale side that went on to be relegated when we drew 3-3 there as part of our own slide towards the League One relegation zone?

My point is, keeping a clean sheet is not an issue if you can score 2 or 3 yourself, like Birmingham did last night. There is a big difference to just letting in 1 to letting in 3.....as well you know.

It seems that people are obsessed with a  1-0 "clean sheet win" and with it winning "dirty" or "ugly"......whereas I would be happier playing attacking football where letting in a goal is not an issue because we are creating chances up the other end & likely to come out on top more often than not. 

It is early days but the league table doesn't lie. There are 3 teams on 13 points but we are 3rd for a reason. So just ask yourself, would you rather win 1-0 every week & end up 3rd or 3-1 and end up top (or even 2-1 as if level on GD the table is based on goals scored and not goals conceded). 

Hahaha so we'd beat Birmingham and Wrexham 1-0 home and away but somehow not get more points than them?! 

🤡🤡🤡

Pelling1993 said:

If a side gets promoted from league 1 with Eoin O'Connell as a starter i'd be stunned.

Always thought he was a cart horse .
After watching last nights highlights nothing has changed.

golfaddick said:

West2003 said:

golfaddick said:

Covered End said:

golfaddick said:

jakecafc said:

It's been all Birmingham. They should run away with this league.

Their front 2 have 6 goals between them. Wrexham have 2 players with 5 between them. 

35 players have scored 2 or more goals across league 1. None of our players have scored more than once.

We are now down to 3rd. The 3 teams directly below us are within 3 points and all have a game in hand.

And I'm not being negative I'm.just stating facts.

Oh......and by the way, Birmingham haven't kept a clean sheet tonight BUT ARE WINNING BECAUSE THEY HAVE SCORED 3 TIMES.

YOU ARE SO NEGATIVE YOU THINK THAT THIS IS POSITIVE.

Scoring 3 and conceding 1 is certainly better than scoring 1 & letting in 0.

Simple maths. And the table is based on points & then Goal Difference. Not clean sheets. 

Couldn't give a shit if we didnt keep another clean sheet between now & the end of the season as long as we scored 2 more than our opponents. 

I ask this out of curiosity...

Were you also saying this when we couldn’t keep out a Port Vale side that went on to be relegated when we drew 3-3 there as part of our own slide towards the League One relegation zone?

My point is, keeping a clean sheet is not an issue if you can score 2 or 3 yourself, like Birmingham did last night. There is a big difference to just letting in 1 to letting in 3.....as well you know.

It seems that people are obsessed with a  1-0 "clean sheet win" and with it winning "dirty" or "ugly"......whereas I would be happier playing attacking football where letting in a goal is not an issue because we are creating chances up the other end & likely to come out on top more often than not. 

It is early days but the league table doesn't lie. There are 3 teams on 13 points but we are 3rd for a reason. So just ask yourself, would you rather win 1-0 every week & end up 3rd or 3-1 and end up top (or even 2-1 as if level on GD the table is based on goals scored and not goals conceded). 

What I think everyone understands except you is that no team will win every week, whether it is 1-0 or 3-1.

Everyone else understands that an aim of scoring 3 goals or more per game is for fools, because it won't happen.

If you're right and everyone else is wrong then please tell me who was the last promoted team from League 1 that scored a minimum of 138 goals. (Good luck with that).

Everyone would like attacking football, scoring lots of goals and winning all the games.

Everyone except you realises that this does not and will not happen.

Wake up, do some research and educate yourself into the fact that no one scores 138 goals per season.

Apologies for being harsh, but everyone's comments are continually brushed aside.

Braziliance said:

I'd say it's early doors for Birmingham still. Last season at this point I think Cambridge, Exeter and Stevenage were all near the top? 

Playing at home will help them massively, they seem to have a good feel atm, and a lot of their fans seem quite happy they were relegated as they needed a reset. If two teams do manage to finish above them, it will be two very good sides. Hopefully one of them is us. 

Their next 4 games will paint a picture of where they will end up I imagine. Rotherham (a), Peterborough (h), Huddersfield (h) and of course us at the Valley. 

If they can get 9-10 points out of that lot, it will be some going. Curious to see how they get on against Peterborough, they are a good measure of where you stand in this league, proper gatekeeper team. 

I think Port Vale were near the top too, so early days. 

The only thing that the 1st six games of the season shows is that Birmingham after spending tens of millions will in all probability romp away with the league. 
Every other position is up for grabs and it's far too early to be making predictions. 

Braziliance said:

I'd say it's early doors for Birmingham still. Last season at this point I think Cambridge, Exeter and Stevenage were all near the top? 

Playing at home will help them massively, they seem to have a good feel atm, and a lot of their fans seem quite happy they were relegated as they needed a reset. If two teams do manage to finish above them, it will be two very good sides. Hopefully one of them is us. 

Their next 4 games will paint a picture of where they will end up I imagine. Rotherham (a), Peterborough (h), Huddersfield (h) and of course us at the Valley. 

If they can get 9-10 points out of that lot, it will be some going. Curious to see how they get on against Peterborough, they are a good measure of where you stand in this league, proper gatekeeper team. 

There's a big difference though between smaller teams and newly promoted teams with great team spirit starting a season well, and a big team "buying the league". I imagine the bookies this time last year would still given longer odds on Cambridge or Exeter going up than Derby.

Smaller teams with small squads can't cope with injuries and the grind of endless games, whereas Brum have the quality and depth. And presumably will spend more in January if necessary.

Covered End said:

golfaddick said:

West2003 said:

golfaddick said:

Covered End said:

golfaddick said:

jakecafc said:

It's been all Birmingham. They should run away with this league.

Their front 2 have 6 goals between them. Wrexham have 2 players with 5 between them. 

35 players have scored 2 or more goals across league 1. None of our players have scored more than once.

We are now down to 3rd. The 3 teams directly below us are within 3 points and all have a game in hand.

And I'm not being negative I'm.just stating facts.

Oh......and by the way, Birmingham haven't kept a clean sheet tonight BUT ARE WINNING BECAUSE THEY HAVE SCORED 3 TIMES.

YOU ARE SO NEGATIVE YOU THINK THAT THIS IS POSITIVE.

Scoring 3 and conceding 1 is certainly better than scoring 1 & letting in 0.

Simple maths. And the table is based on points & then Goal Difference. Not clean sheets. 

Couldn't give a shit if we didnt keep another clean sheet between now & the end of the season as long as we scored 2 more than our opponents. 

I ask this out of curiosity...

Were you also saying this when we couldn’t keep out a Port Vale side that went on to be relegated when we drew 3-3 there as part of our own slide towards the League One relegation zone?

My point is, keeping a clean sheet is not an issue if you can score 2 or 3 yourself, like Birmingham did last night. There is a big difference to just letting in 1 to letting in 3.....as well you know.

It seems that people are obsessed with a  1-0 "clean sheet win" and with it winning "dirty" or "ugly"......whereas I would be happier playing attacking football where letting in a goal is not an issue because we are creating chances up the other end & likely to come out on top more often than not. 

It is early days but the league table doesn't lie. There are 3 teams on 13 points but we are 3rd for a reason. So just ask yourself, would you rather win 1-0 every week & end up 3rd or 3-1 and end up top (or even 2-1 as if level on GD the table is based on goals scored and not goals conceded). 

What I think everyone understands except you is that no team will win every week, whether it is 1-0 or 3-1.

Everyone else understands that an aim of scoring 3 goals or more per game is for fools, because it won't happen.

If you're right and everyone else is wrong then please tell me who was the last promoted team from League 1 that scored a minimum of 138 goals. (Good luck with that).

Everyone would like attacking football, scoring lots of goals and winning all the games.

Everyone except you realises that this does not and will not happen.

Wake up, do some research and educate yourself into the fact that no one scores 138 goals per season.

Apologies for being harsh, but everyone's comments are continually brushed aside.

I don't doubt your research, agree that no team can score 3 goals every game. Totally agree to all that.

My point is, and still stands, that Birmingham & Wrexham are above us, not because they have had clean sheet wins, but because when they do concede they manage to score at least 1 more than their opponents. On the 2 times we have conceded this season we have scored just once in reply and that got us a point. 

If you think my logic is flawed then please explain why we, having kept 4 clean sheets, are not top  ???  We haven't lost more games than Wrexham.

So. Keeping a clean sheet doesn't nevessaily win you the title. You can keep 46 clean sheets but if you dont score either then 46 0-0's might just keep you up. 

letthegoodtimesroll said:

Pelling1993 said:

Only seen the highlights so not got a full reflection on the game, but Wrexham look a bang average side to me.

Their keeper is meant to be good but every time I watch him he has a shocker

They looked like a side that is used to a good run in lower leagues and are now finding out they are no longer the top dogs. I was disappointed and pleased with how they're not using Dobbo effectively. 

Not seen any of it, what do you mean re Dobbo? 

golfaddick said:

Covered End said:

golfaddick said:

West2003 said:

golfaddick said:

Covered End said:

golfaddick said:

jakecafc said:

It's been all Birmingham. They should run away with this league.

Their front 2 have 6 goals between them. Wrexham have 2 players with 5 between them. 

35 players have scored 2 or more goals across league 1. None of our players have scored more than once.

We are now down to 3rd. The 3 teams directly below us are within 3 points and all have a game in hand.

And I'm not being negative I'm.just stating facts.

Oh......and by the way, Birmingham haven't kept a clean sheet tonight BUT ARE WINNING BECAUSE THEY HAVE SCORED 3 TIMES.

YOU ARE SO NEGATIVE YOU THINK THAT THIS IS POSITIVE.

Scoring 3 and conceding 1 is certainly better than scoring 1 & letting in 0.

Simple maths. And the table is based on points & then Goal Difference. Not clean sheets. 

Couldn't give a shit if we didnt keep another clean sheet between now & the end of the season as long as we scored 2 more than our opponents. 

I ask this out of curiosity...

Were you also saying this when we couldn’t keep out a Port Vale side that went on to be relegated when we drew 3-3 there as part of our own slide towards the League One relegation zone?

My point is, keeping a clean sheet is not an issue if you can score 2 or 3 yourself, like Birmingham did last night. There is a big difference to just letting in 1 to letting in 3.....as well you know.

It seems that people are obsessed with a  1-0 "clean sheet win" and with it winning "dirty" or "ugly"......whereas I would be happier playing attacking football where letting in a goal is not an issue because we are creating chances up the other end & likely to come out on top more often than not. 

It is early days but the league table doesn't lie. There are 3 teams on 13 points but we are 3rd for a reason. So just ask yourself, would you rather win 1-0 every week & end up 3rd or 3-1 and end up top (or even 2-1 as if level on GD the table is based on goals scored and not goals conceded). 

What I think everyone understands except you is that no team will win every week, whether it is 1-0 or 3-1.

Everyone else understands that an aim of scoring 3 goals or more per game is for fools, because it won't happen.

If you're right and everyone else is wrong then please tell me who was the last promoted team from League 1 that scored a minimum of 138 goals. (Good luck with that).

Everyone would like attacking football, scoring lots of goals and winning all the games.

Everyone except you realises that this does not and will not happen.

Wake up, do some research and educate yourself into the fact that no one scores 138 goals per season.

Apologies for being harsh, but everyone's comments are continually brushed aside.

I don't doubt your research, agree that no team can score 3 goals every game. Totally agree to all that.

My point is, and still stands, that Birmingham & Wrexham are above us, not because they have had clean sheet wins, but because when they do concede they manage to score at least 1 more than their opponents. On the 2 times we have conceded this season we have scored just once in reply and that got us a point. 

If you think my logic is flawed then please explain why we, having kept 4 clean sheets, are not top  ???  We haven't lost more games than Wrexham.

So. Keeping a clean sheet doesn't nevessaily win you the title. You can keep 46 clean sheets but if you dont score either then 46 0-0's might just keep you up. 

So you want us to score 3 goals per game, but concede that it is not possible, which really should be the end of the discussion. However ....

No one says that we will win the league by keeping clean sheets.
You are again making a false argument.

Yes 46 0-0's will get you relegated and so would 46 3-3s.

Nearly everyone is saying that with our limited resources and lack of goal scorers (yes we sold May but that is done and we are dealing with the now) we will more likely be successful if we can keep clean sheets and become very hard to beat.

Surely you can see that winning 1-0 is much more likely/achievable with our squad, than winning 3-1 or 3-2 every game (not just a few times a season)?

If you think we can score 138 goals or more then please give us a breakdown of who will score the 138 goals ie Ahadme 30 etc.

We aren't above Wrexham because we've only played 6  games.
Please look at last year's table after 6 games and try and understand that the season is far from over until next May.

Away from the goals vs clean sheet debate, there’s a flaw in that we’re trying to predict how the season will play out based on 6 games. Teams will improve or decline as the season goes on, injuries and suspensions (or not) to key players will make a difference, as will the January window and managerial changes.

No one is surprised Birmingham are outscoring us, they should win the league comfortably with their budget.

Wrexham have the momentum following two consecutive promotions along with the stability that brings, so for me it’s not surprising they’re scoring more too.

We have a number of new players and after the last few years Jones has rightly focussed on sorting out the defence.