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League One Relegation Watch 2024

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  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
     FT Carlisle 2-2 Stevenage..Gutting for Carlisle equaliser for Stevenage last kick of the game
    Can no longer finish bottom.  
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Great win for PV, dragging Burton into the relegation mix. It looks like 6 teams fighting to avoid the bottom 4 now
  • barstool
    barstool Posts: 1,351
    Lets face it we have the top marksman and a reasonably fit squad, unbeaten in 8 and showing some form so the only way is up 
    Is that you Nathan? 🤣
    No, but I have been watching the games since he took over ☄️
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651
    edited March 2024


  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    Hadn’t realised almost everyone below us picked up points yesterday. Makes that fortunate late equaliser we got look quite important. And shows we’re not quite home and hosed yet. Need to pick up that one more win soon, and ideally avoid defeat vs Cambridge too.

    I do worry a bit that our performances have been getting a bit worse each week since Northampton away. Not to the extent that I’m worried about relegation again, at least not yet, but I wouldn’t totally rule out us getting sucked back into a bit again. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,024
    Hadn’t realised almost everyone below us picked up points yesterday. Makes that fortunate late equaliser we got look quite important. And shows we’re not quite home and hosed yet. Need to pick up that one more win soon, and ideally avoid defeat vs Cambridge too.

    I do worry a bit that our performances have been getting a bit worse each week since Northampton away. Not to the extent that I’m worried about relegation again, at least not yet, but I wouldn’t totally rule out us getting sucked back into a bit again. 
    We're safe already.
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    Hadn’t realised almost everyone below us picked up points yesterday. Makes that fortunate late equaliser we got look quite important. And shows we’re not quite home and hosed yet. Need to pick up that one more win soon, and ideally avoid defeat vs Cambridge too.

    I do worry a bit that our performances have been getting a bit worse each week since Northampton away. Not to the extent that I’m worried about relegation again, at least not yet, but I wouldn’t totally rule out us getting sucked back into a bit again. 
    We're safe already.
    It will be interesting to see if 46 points ends up being enough. I don't think it will be, but I can't see us not picking up more points. Am I worried? No, but why say we're safe already? Isn't it a fact that we're not?
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,483
    Looking at the fixtures we have left, I think NJ will be disappointed if we don't finish top half, after watching the Exeter game, I feel we have a way of pulling out results from the depth of defeat which would have been a given pre NJ's arrival...looking forward to next season already...
  • I think even under NJ we’re bang mid table league one. Results and better but still indifferent performances seem to confirm that. Major squad revamp required. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,615
    Top half would be amazing. Highest we could realistically finish is 11th, but that would mean getting at least another 7 points, and probably more like 11 or 12, even if you are an optimist. 

    In reality I think finishing any higher than we are would be good going. 
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  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    swordfish said:
    Hadn’t realised almost everyone below us picked up points yesterday. Makes that fortunate late equaliser we got look quite important. And shows we’re not quite home and hosed yet. Need to pick up that one more win soon, and ideally avoid defeat vs Cambridge too.

    I do worry a bit that our performances have been getting a bit worse each week since Northampton away. Not to the extent that I’m worried about relegation again, at least not yet, but I wouldn’t totally rule out us getting sucked back into a bit again. 
    We're safe already.
    It will be interesting to see if 46 points ends up being enough. I don't think it will be, but I can't see us not picking up more points. Am I worried? No, but why say we're safe already? Isn't it a fact that we're not?
    Agreed. A lot will depend on what Port Vale and Cheltenham do with their games in hand. If they lose them then 46 should be enough. If they win them then it not might be more like 49 points. Both of them have faltered a bit lately but won yesterday and have managed to put together good runs before this season. Cheltenham’s games in hand are Carlisle and Burton and very winnable. Vale’s is tougher on paper vs Peterbrough, but Posh managed to lose to Carlisle at home yesterday so who knows. Funny things happen at this time of the season and it is far from impossible for them to get, say, 1.5 points per game for the rest of the season which would get them into the high 40s for total points. 

    On the flip side, we have seen our team, time and time again, start well under a new manager and then lose form and, on occasion, fall of a cliff results wise. Nathan Jones has done much to improve us but since Northampton we have played exclusively teams in the bottom third of the table and, although we have managed to pick up points, the performances have definitely been laboured and not without issues.

    I think if we play like we did vs Carlisle, Fleetwood, and Exeter we will probably lose our next two against Stevenage and Barnsley, both teams going for promotion. Knowing us, we’ll just as likely perk up and win both those as we are likely to lose them, but we start both games as second favourite.

    If do lose our next two and teams below us pick up 3 or 4 points then I would say it would drag us back into it a bit. 

    We should still be able to get enough points to be certainly safe, I think one win will be enough, but it’s hard to trust this squad. If we do lose the next two then it’s far from impossible that old problems will resurface and we could go on another mini slump to the end of the season. We’re still vulnerable until we have those extra points in the board. 
  • Rob
    Rob Posts: 11,775
    I think this team with Nathan Jones at the helm has proven that they can handle the better teams. Look at the Bolton, Portsmouth and Derby games. 
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,251
    50 points is the most anybody has got relegated in the past 30 years. The average is 48. With our goal difference we need 1 win to be safe, unless a new record is made.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    edited April 2024
    I think even under NJ we’re bang mid table league one. Results and better but still indifferent performances seem to confirm that. Major squad revamp required. 
    I can't deny we need a few new players but Jones has 15 points from 10 games, which in the form table since he joined currently has us 8th. He's had to play the top 3 sides in that run as well as 6 of the last 8 games away from home. Over a season that PPG averages to 69 points so even with the (pretty average) current squad he would be doing a bit better than mid-table.  

    I'm excited for next season as i don't think Jones will have come here without certain promises and he's already talking about getting new signings in early. With the additions we know we need i'm confident he'll have us right up there in the top 6.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,755
    edited April 2024
    Five left to play and realistically you’re looking at three teams - two of them need to get above us for us to be in trouble.

    Burton 7 behind (no games in hand)
    Port Vale 8 behind (one game in hand)
    Cheltenham 9 behind (two games in hand)

    Really do think we’re fine now. One more win would be lovely for comfort’s sake.
  • Burton also have to play Cheltenham so obviously a game where 1 or both will drop more points.
    2 of Port Vale's remaining games are away to Peterborough and Bolton so i can't see them getting much there.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,615
    Five left to play and realistically you’re looking at three teams - two of them need to get above us for us to be in trouble.

    Burton 7 behind (no games in hand)
    Port Vale 8 behind (one game in hand)
    Cheltenham 9 behind (two games in hand)

    Really do think we’re fine now. One more win would be lovely for comfort’s sake.
    I cant see those 3 winning enough games to go above us. Not all 3 anyway. 

    However, I can see us losing to Barnsley & only getting a point against Wigan....so going into the Cambridge game still looking over our shoulder. 

    Just so grateful we beat Cheltenham last month because the way we are looking at the moment getting to 50 points is looking a struggle. 
  • peterreeves
    peterreeves Posts: 1,062
    Barnsley look certs to make the playoffs but I was pleased they won today as two defeats on the trot would have them fired up for Saturday. They lost at home to Cambridge, and only drew at home with Cheltenham before that so there is definitely some complancy there so I hope (more in expectation) that we have a go at them. As for Wigan they are just poodling along with very up and down scores so again, have a go.

    However, as we've seen so far Nathan is clearly setting up not to lose each game so I don't think the words flair and attack will appear in the same sentence alongside the name Charlton in the remaining games.  
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,554
    Barnsley look certs to make the playoffs but I was pleased they won today as two defeats on the trot would have them fired up for Saturday. They lost at home to Cambridge, and only drew at home with Cheltenham before that so there is definitely some complancy there so I hope (more in expectation) that we have a go at them. As for Wigan they are just poodling along with very up and down scores so again, have a go.

    However, as we've seen so far Nathan is clearly setting up not to lose each game so I don't think the words flair and attack will appear in the same sentence alongside the name Charlton in the remaining games.  
    I don't think he has any other option at the moment. That needs to change during the summer window.
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,234
    Cambridge have started winning. Coincidentally neither Bonne nor Taylor are getting a game. That concludes my case M’Lud. 
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  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,800
    If you still think we're even in a relegation battle, you're either high on meth or being a wind up merchant
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,445
    16
    Charlton Athletic
    411017145859-147
    17
    Shrewsbury Town
    41137213056-2646
    18
    Reading
    41149185862-445
    19
    Cambridge United
    40129193756-1945
    20
    Burton Albion
    411010213355-2240

    21

    Port Vale

    40

    10

    9

    21

    38

    63

    -25

    39
    22
    Cheltenham Town
    39108213353-2038
    23
    Fleetwood Town
    41713214267-2534
    24
    Carlisle United
    4169263973-3427

    We're fine. 

    Two out of Burton, Port Vale and Cheltenham are going down. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,615
    16
    Charlton Athletic
    411017145859-147
    17
    Shrewsbury Town
    41137213056-2646
    18
    Reading
    41149185862-445
    19
    Cambridge United
    40129193756-1945
    20
    Burton Albion
    411010213355-2240

    21

    Port Vale

    40

    10

    9

    21

    38

    63

    -25

    39
    22
    Cheltenham Town
    39108213353-2038
    23
    Fleetwood Town
    41713214267-2534
    24
    Carlisle United
    4169263973-3427

    We're fine. 

    Two out of Burton, Port Vale and Cheltenham are going down. 
    Seeing as PV can get 57 points & Cheltenham can 59 points it's still far from over. 

    Probably less than a 5% chance of us going down but given the last 3 games ws've played I wouldn't bank on us winning another game this season. 

    We should be safe by the time we play Shrewsbury at home. Last home game of the season & a tight 0-0 will be cheered to the rafters.

    What a time to be alive.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 33,993
    Absolutely no way are we going down … ridiculous to even consider it 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,755
    Best bookmaker odds according to Oddschecker…

    Fleetwood 1/25
    Port Vale 1/2
    Burton 4/6
    Cheltenham 6/4
    Reading 7/1
    Shrewsbury 9/1
    Cambridge 9/1
    Charlton 100/1
  • Don’t think Burton have spent a day in the relegation zone this season. So it’s 2 from Cheltenham, Port Vale or Burton for relegation then.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    In yesterday's game at Cambridge, Jordan Cousins fouled Josh Magennis to give away a penalty, which Magennis then missed  :)
  • In yesterday's game at Cambridge, Jordan Cousins fouled Josh Magennis to give away a penalty, which Magennis then missed  :)
    You can take the players out of Charlton....
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,808
    edited April 2024
    we could lose every game from here (we won't) and we'd still be ok
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    stonemuse said:
    Absolutely no way are we going down … ridiculous to even consider it 
    47.9 is the average points total needed to stay up. There have been 20+ teams relegated with 47+ points. There has never been a team relegated with 52 points.

    https://www.thestatszone.com/football/how-many-points-are-needed-for-league-1-survival