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George Dobson - Gone to Wrexham p136, farewell message p142
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Thought that was the best Dobson has played when he’s had Coventry next to him. It’s not really worked before but last night they seemed to work well together and both had good games3
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He didn't seem his usual 'tenacious' self yesterday, but not sure if that is because he is playing in a different role and has slightly different instructions.
Ultimately in my opinion Coventry long term will be better in that deeper role than Dobson was. So it's whether you think Dobson can be a 'top 6' first team 'box to box' midfielder.
I personally am not sure, and think there will be better first team options in that role as well. For me Dobson is still very much worth his spot in the squad, but I see him as a squad player moving forwards - and I believe those were the terms he was offered in his latest contract.
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I still say that he will not be at his best until we pass 38 games and another yellow card will not matter. He is still proving how good he can be, especially his assist for the second goal5
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I think he's been pretty poor since the Hungary announcement. Doesn't look his usual self at all.
Good ball last night, though.4 -
Sign him up!4
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He's got the shackles of a two game suspension off his back now.
He'll need to avoid picking up another six bookings between now and the end of the season to avoid a three match ban (which I presume can carry over into next season, should he stay), but that could have been weighing on his mind these last couple of matches.0 -
He's gone now, isn't he? Signed a pre-contract so I don't think Jones could keep if even if he wants to.3
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I got a different feelings yesterday.North Lower Neil said:
Yes. Daft thing is I get the feeling he wants to stay, we should want him to stay (and Jones probably does), but it's all too little too late as Scott tried to push him out and the pre-contract is signed.se9addick said:Surely he’s not really going to join this Hungarian team, is he?!Yesterday that was the yearly public conversation between our manager Gzrelak, and supporters of Videoton (Fehervar).So now I know more details about the Dobbo transfer.Our manager meet with him several times, he also saw a match at London, meet with him at London, and also at Budapest. And also they disscussed at phone several times.Our manager spoke about Dobbo, he highligthed his work moral, and also a leadership at the pitch. He expland that Dobbo is like a elongated hand of coach at the pitch.I also asked him a question, that he afraid of that Dobbo will not join us at the summer, beacuse of Nathan Jones can persuade to stay at Charlton. But he told me, after a several converastion with Dobbo, he 100 % sure that he will join us at the summer.As I know, the way of the blow up a transfer, and stop Dobbo to left a club, was way to far to keep him at the same motivation to stay after summer at Charlton. The key also Nathan Jones for this.4 -
Sign him back.ElliotCAFC said:He's gone now, isn't he? Signed a pre-contract so I don't think Jones could keep if even if he wants to.1 -
It'll be interesting if he clatters a Carlisle player within 30 seconds on Saturday, as he's not been able to do that for weeksForeverAddickted said:He's got the shackles of a two game suspension off his back now.
He'll need to avoid picking up another six bookings between now and the end of the season to avoid a three match ban (which I presume can carry over into next season, should he stay), but that could have been weighing on his mind these last couple of matches.
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Dobson will not be moving to Hungary in the summer.Vjacheslav said:
I got a different feelings yesterday.North Lower Neil said:
Yes. Daft thing is I get the feeling he wants to stay, we should want him to stay (and Jones probably does), but it's all too little too late as Scott tried to push him out and the pre-contract is signed.se9addick said:Surely he’s not really going to join this Hungarian team, is he?!Yesterday that was the yearly public conversation between our manager Gzrelak, and supporters of Videoton (Fehervar).So now I know more details about the Dobbo transfer.Our manager meet with him several times, he also saw a match at London, meet with him at London, and also at Budapest. And also they disscussed at phone several times.Our manager spoke about Dobbo, he highligthed his work moral, and also a leadership at the pitch. He expland that Dobbo is like a elongated hand of coach at the pitch.I also asked him a question, that he afraid of that Dobbo will not join us at the summer, beacuse of Nathan Jones can persuade to stay at Charlton. But he told me, after a several converastion with Dobbo, he 100 % sure that he will join us at the summer.As I know, the way of the blow up a transfer, and stop Dobbo to left a club, was way to far to keep him at the same motivation to stay after summer at Charlton. The key also Nathan Jones for this.0 -
Yes he is gone. The only way to Charlton to keep him, if they bought out from his next contract.ElliotCAFC said:He's gone now, isn't he? Signed a pre-contract so I don't think Jones could keep if even if he wants to.1 -
Jones would be mad not to try and keep Dobson . The sooner the better for the club and his family's sake.2
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Your penultimate paragraph contradicts this.Vjacheslav said:
Yes he is gone. The only way to Charlton to keep him, if they bought out from his next contract.ElliotCAFC said:He's gone now, isn't he? Signed a pre-contract so I don't think Jones could keep if even if he wants to.0 -
He can try all he likes but there's no way it happens. Fehevar would have our pants down, I think they'd want 7 figures. Sounds mad I know but he's just signed a multi year contract with them and we would have to be desperate to sign him backBedsaddick said:Jones would be mad not to try and keep Dobson . The sooner the better for the club and his family's sake.0 -
Or that is a reason why is he still on the way to Hungary.ElfsborgAddick said:
Your penultimate paragraph contradicts this.Vjacheslav said:
Yes he is gone. The only way to Charlton to keep him, if they bought out from his next contract.ElliotCAFC said:He's gone now, isn't he? Signed a pre-contract so I don't think Jones could keep if even if he wants to.0 -
Source ? That's the first iv'e heard that they want over a million to sign him back. Sounds Ridiculous to me.fenaddick said:
He can try all he likes but there's no way it happens. Fehevar would have our pants down, I think they'd want 7 figures. Sounds mad I know but he's just signed a multi year contract with them and we would have to be desperate to sign him backBedsaddick said:Jones would be mad not to try and keep Dobson . The sooner the better for the club and his family's sake.1 -
Basically Jones kept Dobbo there by force, yet he still does his best for Charlton.Bedsaddick said:Jones would be mad not to try and keep Dobson . The sooner the better for the club and his family's sake.
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Why is it ridiculous?Bedsaddick said:
Source ? That's the first iv'e heard that they want over a million to sign him back. Sounds Ridiculous to me.fenaddick said:
He can try all he likes but there's no way it happens. Fehevar would have our pants down, I think they'd want 7 figures. Sounds mad I know but he's just signed a multi year contract with them and we would have to be desperate to sign him backBedsaddick said:Jones would be mad not to try and keep Dobson . The sooner the better for the club and his family's sake.
Dobbo sign for Fehervar as I know for three year long contract, so Fehervar can ask any price for it.4 -
This could be my dad pulling my leg, but he's not too clued up with current Charlton gossip so there may be some legs. Who doesn't love a good story/gossip anyway...
My old man said his mate took Dobbo in his taxi last week. Picked him up from Essex, saw the Charlton tracksuit and asked Dobbo if he was in the academy lol. He told the cabbie was the Charlton captain. When asked about how it's going he's said things are looking up and is impressed with the ambition of the club currently. Said he wants to stay going forward looking to fight for promotion next year.5 -
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I saw him and his family in a Hungry Horse the other week, is that a clue?ElfsborgAddick said:
Dobson will not be moving to Hungary in the summer.Vjacheslav said:
I got a different feelings yesterday.North Lower Neil said:
Yes. Daft thing is I get the feeling he wants to stay, we should want him to stay (and Jones probably does), but it's all too little too late as Scott tried to push him out and the pre-contract is signed.se9addick said:Surely he’s not really going to join this Hungarian team, is he?!Yesterday that was the yearly public conversation between our manager Gzrelak, and supporters of Videoton (Fehervar).So now I know more details about the Dobbo transfer.Our manager meet with him several times, he also saw a match at London, meet with him at London, and also at Budapest. And also they disscussed at phone several times.Our manager spoke about Dobbo, he highligthed his work moral, and also a leadership at the pitch. He expland that Dobbo is like a elongated hand of coach at the pitch.I also asked him a question, that he afraid of that Dobbo will not join us at the summer, beacuse of Nathan Jones can persuade to stay at Charlton. But he told me, after a several converastion with Dobbo, he 100 % sure that he will join us at the summer.As I know, the way of the blow up a transfer, and stop Dobbo to left a club, was way to far to keep him at the same motivation to stay after summer at Charlton. The key also Nathan Jones for this.
Lying BTW.6 -
By force? He is under contract here until the summer. Jones kept him here until the expiry of his contract because he is entitled to do soVjacheslav said:
Basically Jones kept Dobbo there by force, yet he still does his best for Charlton.Bedsaddick said:Jones would be mad not to try and keep Dobson . The sooner the better for the club and his family's sake.9 -
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I'm unsure if this has been posted elsewhere. Nathan Jones quote "Is there an option for him to stay longer? Probably, if he chooses not to that’s fine…no problem."Vjacheslav said:
Why is it ridiculous?Bedsaddick said:
Source ? That's the first iv'e heard that they want over a million to sign him back. Sounds Ridiculous to me.fenaddick said:
He can try all he likes but there's no way it happens. Fehevar would have our pants down, I think they'd want 7 figures. Sounds mad I know but he's just signed a multi year contract with them and we would have to be desperate to sign him backBedsaddick said:Jones would be mad not to try and keep Dobson . The sooner the better for the club and his family's sake.
Dobbo sign for Fehervar as I know for three year long contract, so Fehervar can ask any price for it.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/not-in-the-interests-of-charlton-athletic-fc-nathan-jones-on-george-dobsons-february-switch-to-fehervar-collapsing/
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That is a bullshit, he has a signed pre-contract.PopIcon said:
I'm unsure if this has been posted elsewhere. Nathan Jones quote "Is there an option for him to stay longer? Probably, if he chooses not to that’s fine…no problem."Vjacheslav said:
Why is it ridiculous?Bedsaddick said:
Source ? That's the first iv'e heard that they want over a million to sign him back. Sounds Ridiculous to me.fenaddick said:
He can try all he likes but there's no way it happens. Fehevar would have our pants down, I think they'd want 7 figures. Sounds mad I know but he's just signed a multi year contract with them and we would have to be desperate to sign him backBedsaddick said:Jones would be mad not to try and keep Dobson . The sooner the better for the club and his family's sake.
Dobbo sign for Fehervar as I know for three year long contract, so Fehervar can ask any price for it.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/not-in-the-interests-of-charlton-athletic-fc-nathan-jones-on-george-dobsons-february-switch-to-fehervar-collapsing/2 -
Pre-contracts are generally not binding under English law as they are usually marked 'Subject to Contract'6
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Todds_right_hook said:
By force? He is under contract here until the summer. Jones kept him here until the expiry of his contract because he is entitled to do soVjacheslav said:
Basically Jones kept Dobbo there by force, yet he still does his best for Charlton.Bedsaddick said:Jones would be mad not to try and keep Dobson . The sooner the better for the club and his family's sake.
Yes. I know he is under contract until this summer. That was legal from Chralton to keep him. But from Dobson side of view. He made a dicision to sign for Fehervar that time from February, he packed everthing including his family, booked the flight waiting for a paperwork, medical, searching for new home, prepare for new life. At that time Charlton agreed to sold him. And the very last minute Jones told him that he won't let him to leave the club.Todds_right_hook said:
By force? He is under contract here until the summer. Jones kept him here until the expiry of his contract because he is entitled to do soVjacheslav said:
Basically Jones kept Dobbo there by force, yet he still does his best for Charlton.Bedsaddick said:Jones would be mad not to try and keep Dobson . The sooner the better for the club and his family's sake.1 -
Whatever happens, i will never understand him signing that pre-contract anyway. Unless it was for crazy money (highly unlikely given the destination) why wouldn't he wait to see what other offers come in the summer that don't involve taking your wife and baby to Hungary (no offence intended).
I think he has been poorly advised by his agent, who no-doubt got a kick-back from Fehervar.5 -
In this case the contract not only valid by hungarian law, but valid by uefa law too.Covered_End_Lad said:Pre-contracts are generally not binding under English law as they are usually marked 'Subject to Contract'This is not a verbal agreement. Id the 'Subject to Contract' contains all of the element of the final contract, also valid by the English law too.0 -
The full article mentions the pre-agreement and the failed transfer. I have no idea if there are any clauses within the contract, but it's possible. Bear in mind, all this happened BEFORE Nathan Jones was appointed.Vjacheslav said:
That is a bullshit, he has a signed pre-contract.PopIcon said:
I'm unsure if this has been posted elsewhere. Nathan Jones quote "Is there an option for him to stay longer? Probably, if he chooses not to that’s fine…no problem."Vjacheslav said:
Why is it ridiculous?Bedsaddick said:
Source ? That's the first iv'e heard that they want over a million to sign him back. Sounds Ridiculous to me.fenaddick said:
He can try all he likes but there's no way it happens. Fehevar would have our pants down, I think they'd want 7 figures. Sounds mad I know but he's just signed a multi year contract with them and we would have to be desperate to sign him backBedsaddick said:Jones would be mad not to try and keep Dobson . The sooner the better for the club and his family's sake.
Dobbo sign for Fehervar as I know for three year long contract, so Fehervar can ask any price for it.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/not-in-the-interests-of-charlton-athletic-fc-nathan-jones-on-george-dobsons-february-switch-to-fehervar-collapsing/
From Nathan Jones.
"It (the pre-contract) doesn’t affect anything – as long as George is at it. As long as George is George then he will be fine.
“It will be entirely down to George and his motivation for the next two-and-a-half months."
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