George Dobson - Gone to Wrexham p136, farewell message p142

PragueAddick said:

eastterrace6168 said:

PragueAddick said:

guinnessaddick said:

We’re going to buy Dobson from his new club, before he’s even kick a ball for them.

You jest, but here is Peter Varney's take:

https://x.com/_PeterVarney/status/1758020108033593667?s=20

Don't get that, if George bless him, decides to stay, why should it be the club who have to compensate the Hungarians, George signed the contract, surely George has to pay up...or am I missing something here...🤷‍♂️

Yes, I think you are. 

I know some people don't rate him but the assumption that any player, let alone our club captain, would pay a financial penalty for the "privilege" of staying here is a tad heroic...

Now, if his agent paid Fehervar for all the shit he has caused everyone with this quite unnecessary pre-contract thing, that would be the best all round, but hell will freeze over before any agent loses a penny on any of their dealings. 

Callumcafc said:

What is this pre contract nonsense that Brentford are doing? Signing a Brazilian striker from Belgium but he doesn’t join the club until July? Must be the agent’s doing… :-)

https://x.com/brentfordfc/status/1757827313012502666?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0g

fenaddick said:

@PragueAddick another one of our players signed a pre-contract this window in CBT. In normal circumstances, you can't sign one with someone in the same nation so the reason it hasn't happened often with our players is because they aren't good enough to be scouted abroad and our scouting isn't good enough to find players from abroad. 

Vjacheslav said:

PragueAddick said:

@Vjacheslav

I’m not sure if you know that Nathan Jones used to manage Luton, in two spells, and took them up from League 2 to the Championship. So he’s referring to players who can play a lot higher if they work hard and improve themselves, because he has examples of that from the players he managed at Luton. By the way, its a funny coincidence, but are you also aware that Gaby, the Hungarian fan you talked with on Twitter re Dobbo, is also a Luton fan? He lives there most of the time I understand although he is often back in Budapest. He speaks very highly of Jones. 

It seems to be Jones style to be super-positive in public, sometimes it might seem a bit over the top but he has a group of players who clearly lack confidence in themselves and each other. The striker who came in on loan and scored his first goal last night said his time with us  so far had been “confusing” . Jones is trying to provide them with stability. He is also talking to us, the fans. And it seems to work. I was just watching on stream in Prague but in the second half the crowd really lifted the team which was pretty remarkable given all the shit we’d put up with. And after watching Jones post-match interview, even I felt better - and we had only drawn at home to bloody Lincoln.

He obviously rates Dobbo, and the only reason Dobbo was talking to you guys was that someone else in the club obviously  didn’t - someone who does not have to take responsibility for individual results, and has never been in that position elsewhere. He may face the consequences. But Jones has a job to do, to persuade Dobbo that if he stays he will be part of a big thing at Charlton. After all when he took over at Luton they had fallen farther than we ever have - and they have been in the FAPL, or at least the old Div 1. And he led them back upwards. 

I have no idea what’s in that pre-contract, and I can believe you might find out more about it than we do. If Dobbo does not come to you, you will have every right to be pissed off with our club. But Nathan Jones is innocent. He is doing his job, trying to repair the damage done by other clowns in our club who have allowed this to happen. The other person you can be pissed off with is Dobbo’s agent. Some people on here think I am over-critical of agents, but they make the most money when players move, and there is some discussion that agents can earn more when a player from England moves abroad. Nobody can understand why he signed this agreement several days before the English window closed. There are often last minute offers, but his agent had closed that possibility off. Why? My guess is that no English deal could match the amount his agent would make from sending Dobbo to you. There is no other logical reason. 

But let’s see how it all plays out from here. Of course if we get relegated, then Dobbo will be in Fehervar in July. None of us underestimate the danger of that, you can be sure.

I agree about the agent stuff. The point is wrong He signed before the hungarian market closed, and after the transfer collapsed. This one is a big difference.

I saw the game, but the chanting of the crowed for my ear is little bit differnt. Our attendace at the stadiums highly lower, but there are a group of ultras which sometimes are louder, and organized than the bigger crowed. We are close to balkan, the chanting are different, there are drums, sometimes pyrotechnics, smoke and draperies, different passion. I think Gaby know that thing. Kispest also have a same group.

eastterrace6168 said:

Is this thread gonna keep going till July, getting very repetitive now...😴😴

PragueAddick said:

fenaddick said:

@PragueAddick another one of our players signed a pre-contract this window in CBT. In normal circumstances, you can't sign one with someone in the same nation so the reason it hasn't happened often with our players is because they aren't good enough to be scouted abroad and our scouting isn't good enough to find players from abroad. 

I thought that was quite different, no? A pseudo- loan to help them evade FFP issues when all three parties wanted the deal done, and results in him leaving within the window. 

fenaddick said:

PragueAddick said:

fenaddick said:

@PragueAddick another one of our players signed a pre-contract this window in CBT. In normal circumstances, you can't sign one with someone in the same nation so the reason it hasn't happened often with our players is because they aren't good enough to be scouted abroad and our scouting isn't good enough to find players from abroad. 

I thought that was quite different, no? A pseudo- loan to help them evade FFP issues when all three parties wanted the deal done, and results in him leaving within the window. 

The loan bit is until the summer, he’s then signed a pre-contract for after that 

YTS1978 said:

Vjacheslav said:

PragueAddick said:

@Vjacheslav

I’m not sure if you know that Nathan Jones used to manage Luton, in two spells, and took them up from League 2 to the Championship. So he’s referring to players who can play a lot higher if they work hard and improve themselves, because he has examples of that from the players he managed at Luton. By the way, its a funny coincidence, but are you also aware that Gaby, the Hungarian fan you talked with on Twitter re Dobbo, is also a Luton fan? He lives there most of the time I understand although he is often back in Budapest. He speaks very highly of Jones. 

It seems to be Jones style to be super-positive in public, sometimes it might seem a bit over the top but he has a group of players who clearly lack confidence in themselves and each other. The striker who came in on loan and scored his first goal last night said his time with us  so far had been “confusing” . Jones is trying to provide them with stability. He is also talking to us, the fans. And it seems to work. I was just watching on stream in Prague but in the second half the crowd really lifted the team which was pretty remarkable given all the shit we’d put up with. And after watching Jones post-match interview, even I felt better - and we had only drawn at home to bloody Lincoln.

He obviously rates Dobbo, and the only reason Dobbo was talking to you guys was that someone else in the club obviously  didn’t - someone who does not have to take responsibility for individual results, and has never been in that position elsewhere. He may face the consequences. But Jones has a job to do, to persuade Dobbo that if he stays he will be part of a big thing at Charlton. After all when he took over at Luton they had fallen farther than we ever have - and they have been in the FAPL, or at least the old Div 1. And he led them back upwards. 

I have no idea what’s in that pre-contract, and I can believe you might find out more about it than we do. If Dobbo does not come to you, you will have every right to be pissed off with our club. But Nathan Jones is innocent. He is doing his job, trying to repair the damage done by other clowns in our club who have allowed this to happen. The other person you can be pissed off with is Dobbo’s agent. Some people on here think I am over-critical of agents, but they make the most money when players move, and there is some discussion that agents can earn more when a player from England moves abroad. Nobody can understand why he signed this agreement several days before the English window closed. There are often last minute offers, but his agent had closed that possibility off. Why? My guess is that no English deal could match the amount his agent would make from sending Dobbo to you. There is no other logical reason. 

But let’s see how it all plays out from here. Of course if we get relegated, then Dobbo will be in Fehervar in July. None of us underestimate the danger of that, you can be sure.

I agree about the agent stuff. The point is wrong He signed before the hungarian market closed, and after the transfer collapsed. This one is a big difference.

I saw the game, but the chanting of the crowed for my ear is little bit differnt. Our attendace at the stadiums highly lower, but there are a group of ultras which sometimes are louder, and organized than the bigger crowed. We are close to balkan, the chanting are different, there are drums, sometimes pyrotechnics, smoke and draperies, different passion. I think Gaby know that thing. Kispest also have a same group.

All sounds a bit Palace. I'm out!

Only joking @Vjacheslav am finding your posts really interesting 😀

YTS1978 said:

PragueAddick said:

YTS1978 said:

Vjacheslav said:

PragueAddick said:

@Vjacheslav

I’m not sure if you know that Nathan Jones used to manage Luton, in two spells, and took them up from League 2 to the Championship. So he’s referring to players who can play a lot higher if they work hard and improve themselves, because he has examples of that from the players he managed at Luton. By the way, its a funny coincidence, but are you also aware that Gaby, the Hungarian fan you talked with on Twitter re Dobbo, is also a Luton fan? He lives there most of the time I understand although he is often back in Budapest. He speaks very highly of Jones. 

It seems to be Jones style to be super-positive in public, sometimes it might seem a bit over the top but he has a group of players who clearly lack confidence in themselves and each other. The striker who came in on loan and scored his first goal last night said his time with us  so far had been “confusing” . Jones is trying to provide them with stability. He is also talking to us, the fans. And it seems to work. I was just watching on stream in Prague but in the second half the crowd really lifted the team which was pretty remarkable given all the shit we’d put up with. And after watching Jones post-match interview, even I felt better - and we had only drawn at home to bloody Lincoln.

He obviously rates Dobbo, and the only reason Dobbo was talking to you guys was that someone else in the club obviously  didn’t - someone who does not have to take responsibility for individual results, and has never been in that position elsewhere. He may face the consequences. But Jones has a job to do, to persuade Dobbo that if he stays he will be part of a big thing at Charlton. After all when he took over at Luton they had fallen farther than we ever have - and they have been in the FAPL, or at least the old Div 1. And he led them back upwards. 

I have no idea what’s in that pre-contract, and I can believe you might find out more about it than we do. If Dobbo does not come to you, you will have every right to be pissed off with our club. But Nathan Jones is innocent. He is doing his job, trying to repair the damage done by other clowns in our club who have allowed this to happen. The other person you can be pissed off with is Dobbo’s agent. Some people on here think I am over-critical of agents, but they make the most money when players move, and there is some discussion that agents can earn more when a player from England moves abroad. Nobody can understand why he signed this agreement several days before the English window closed. There are often last minute offers, but his agent had closed that possibility off. Why? My guess is that no English deal could match the amount his agent would make from sending Dobbo to you. There is no other logical reason. 

But let’s see how it all plays out from here. Of course if we get relegated, then Dobbo will be in Fehervar in July. None of us underestimate the danger of that, you can be sure.

I agree about the agent stuff. The point is wrong He signed before the hungarian market closed, and after the transfer collapsed. This one is a big difference.

I saw the game, but the chanting of the crowed for my ear is little bit differnt. Our attendace at the stadiums highly lower, but there are a group of ultras which sometimes are louder, and organized than the bigger crowed. We are close to balkan, the chanting are different, there are drums, sometimes pyrotechnics, smoke and draperies, different passion. I think Gaby know that thing. Kispest also have a same group.

All sounds a bit Palace. I'm out!

Only joking @Vjacheslav am finding your posts really interesting 😀

You noticed Fehervar's home team strip?😱😉

Urgh....I hadn't actually 😂🤣

Vjacheslav said:

PragueAddick said:

YTS1978 said:

PragueAddick said:

YTS1978 said:

Vjacheslav said:

PragueAddick said:

@Vjacheslav

I’m not sure if you know that Nathan Jones used to manage Luton, in two spells, and took them up from League 2 to the Championship. So he’s referring to players who can play a lot higher if they work hard and improve themselves, because he has examples of that from the players he managed at Luton. By the way, its a funny coincidence, but are you also aware that Gaby, the Hungarian fan you talked with on Twitter re Dobbo, is also a Luton fan? He lives there most of the time I understand although he is often back in Budapest. He speaks very highly of Jones. 

It seems to be Jones style to be super-positive in public, sometimes it might seem a bit over the top but he has a group of players who clearly lack confidence in themselves and each other. The striker who came in on loan and scored his first goal last night said his time with us  so far had been “confusing” . Jones is trying to provide them with stability. He is also talking to us, the fans. And it seems to work. I was just watching on stream in Prague but in the second half the crowd really lifted the team which was pretty remarkable given all the shit we’d put up with. And after watching Jones post-match interview, even I felt better - and we had only drawn at home to bloody Lincoln.

He obviously rates Dobbo, and the only reason Dobbo was talking to you guys was that someone else in the club obviously  didn’t - someone who does not have to take responsibility for individual results, and has never been in that position elsewhere. He may face the consequences. But Jones has a job to do, to persuade Dobbo that if he stays he will be part of a big thing at Charlton. After all when he took over at Luton they had fallen farther than we ever have - and they have been in the FAPL, or at least the old Div 1. And he led them back upwards. 

I have no idea what’s in that pre-contract, and I can believe you might find out more about it than we do. If Dobbo does not come to you, you will have every right to be pissed off with our club. But Nathan Jones is innocent. He is doing his job, trying to repair the damage done by other clowns in our club who have allowed this to happen. The other person you can be pissed off with is Dobbo’s agent. Some people on here think I am over-critical of agents, but they make the most money when players move, and there is some discussion that agents can earn more when a player from England moves abroad. Nobody can understand why he signed this agreement several days before the English window closed. There are often last minute offers, but his agent had closed that possibility off. Why? My guess is that no English deal could match the amount his agent would make from sending Dobbo to you. There is no other logical reason. 

But let’s see how it all plays out from here. Of course if we get relegated, then Dobbo will be in Fehervar in July. None of us underestimate the danger of that, you can be sure.

I agree about the agent stuff. The point is wrong He signed before the hungarian market closed, and after the transfer collapsed. This one is a big difference.

I saw the game, but the chanting of the crowed for my ear is little bit differnt. Our attendace at the stadiums highly lower, but there are a group of ultras which sometimes are louder, and organized than the bigger crowed. We are close to balkan, the chanting are different, there are drums, sometimes pyrotechnics, smoke and draperies, different passion. I think Gaby know that thing. Kispest also have a same group.

All sounds a bit Palace. I'm out!

Only joking @Vjacheslav am finding your posts really interesting 😀

You noticed Fehervar's home team strip?😱😉

Urgh....I hadn't actually 😂🤣

I've got the same problem with my Czech team. No way am I displaying any of their gear on my person or property🙁

For me the red and blue is always ok.