George Dobson - Gone to Wrexham p136, farewell message p142

FishCostaFortune said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

FishCostaFortune said:

Rob7Lee said:

FishCostaFortune said:

Braziliance said:

Well, it seems like someone at the club who actually understands football, has realised how important Dobson could be in a relegation fight and has stood their ground. Thank Christ. 

Some of the comments not understanding the move to Hungary are quite amusing for me. 

Videoton/Fehervar have been competing in Europe and getting results/competing in recent years against the likes of: Chelsea, Ludogrets, Malmo, AEK Athens, Partizan, PAOK, Bordeaux, Reims, Köln. Do you genuinely not understand how bad the likes of those clubs would smash us to fkn pieces on the pitch 😂 Play league 1 footie surrounded by players who look like they've won a competition and don't put in half the effort you do, or, join a team that competes to win their league and is willing to pay you a very fair wage in a nice country. What a decision.

Suspect it's the people with the same view that Rangers wasn't a big move at the time for Aribo. It's a brilliant move for Dobson at this stage of his career. 

When it's all said and done, he will be able to say he played European football for one of the best teams in a different country, OR he could say, he scraped by, year after year for a club that's been mismanaged by absolute crooks in League 1. 

In an ideal world, he would have stayed, and he would have been one of the main people in charge of a promotion challenging team. Unfortunately, getting a senior role at Charlton is the easiest job application in the world apparently, and his situation has been completely mismanaged. 

Good luck to Dobson. I hope he can help keep us in this poxy league for another year, and we can wipe the stains from the club that currently have far too much say, next season. 👍🏻

For me it’s nothing to do with the perceived quality of league etc. I understand that a footballers career is very finite, and ultimately they need to try and make as much money, and play at the highest level they can, during the period they play. 

If he was a single bloke, then maybe, but I just don’t understand why with a very young family, you would make such a move unless it was for an absolutely life changing wage - which I just don’t think it will be.

With 6 months left on his contract it just tells me that they know they won’t get an offer better than what Charlton offered from another English team. 

Don't know what he earns here, but it's more than possible for him to be getting towards £1m with bonuses etc at the new club plus a decent signing on fee, Hungary has very low tax rates as well (flat 15% on income), so likely he'd need to earn at least 50% more in the UK to net the same. 

Plus many people see working abroad for a period as an adventure and an opportunity.

I can’t speak for other people or George Dobson, but I don’t think in life when you have a baby, that you are looking for adventure at that point. 

Just doing some research and the average salary seems to be about £8,500 a month. However Ferenacvos will pay significantly better and you have to expect George will be one of the higher earners in that team as well. 

However there needs to be a massive increase to the average to make it anywhere near a million a year. 

That's all well and good, but he hasn't signed for Ferencvaros.

Oh, wow, not sure why I thought it was Ferencvaros.

I’ve actually been to Székesfehérvár/Fehérvár
where Dobson will be based, on my way to Lake Balaton one year.

All I can really remember of that time is an awful tasting drink called ‘Unicum’. 

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Vjacheslav said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

Braziliance said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

Braziliance said:

Vjacheslav said:

Braziliance said:

Well, it seems like someone at the club who actually understands football, has realised how important Dobson could be in a relegation fight and has stood their ground. Thank Christ. 

Some of the comments not understanding the move to Hungary are quite amusing for me. 

Videoton/Fehervar have been competing in Europe and getting results/competing in recent years against the likes of: Chelsea, Ludogrets, Malmo, AEK Athens, Partizan, PAOK, Bordeaux, Reims, Köln. Do you genuinely not understand how bad the likes of those clubs would smash us to fkn pieces on the pitch 😂 Play league 1 footie surrounded by players who look like they've won a competition and don't put in half the effort you do, or, join a team that competes to win their league and is willing to pay you a very fair wage in a nice country. What a decision.

Suspect it's the people with the same view that Rangers wasn't a big move at the time for Aribo. It's a brilliant move for Dobson at this stage of his career. 

When it's all said and done, he will be able to say he played European football for one of the best teams in a different country, OR he could say, he scraped by, year after year for a club that's been mismanaged by absolute crooks in League 1. 

In an ideal world, he would have stayed, and he would have been one of the main people in charge of a promotion challenging team. Unfortunately, getting a senior role at Charlton is the easiest job application in the world apparently, and his situation has been completely mismanaged. 

Good luck to Dobson. I hope he can help keep us in this poxy league for another year, and we can wipe the stains from the club that currently have far too much say, next season. 👍🏻

Thank you for this. So many good memories, and trips.

All good, thanks for signing up and sharing your views as a Fehervar fan. 

I plan on doing a lot of travelling in the near future, and provided Dobson does end up at your club, I'll be sure to go and watch a game there when I visit Hungary 👍🏻

If you do end up with him, you genuinely have a brilliant player for your club, and he will shine surrounded by better players imo. I hope he gets the platform he deserves, I am genuinely gutted that it isn't going to be with us.

"Better players", you might be surprised at the standard out there.

I don't think I will be tbh, I can take a look at some of the results they've achieved, and watch my team struggle against the likes of Northampton, Port Vale, Burton and Carlisle, and assume the football is of a higher quality. Hungarian football is probably at it's best it's been in a long time right now and producing some very decent talents, a lot of which finding themselves competing for sides in the Bundesliga.

If we can't beat the teams I've mentioned this season, there's no doubt in my mind that these top flight European teams would shred us to pieces, and employ a much higher standard of footballer than what we watch most of the time. 

Aberdeen sit 9th in the Scottish prem and made us look like part timers in pre-season. 

I was not comparing them to us.  I was talking about Hungarian football in general.

In generally better, than 10 or 20 years ago. My first ever match was against United at 1985. We won the game with penalties. I was 4 year old child, I didn't remember anything just a crowd. In 1986 Hungary play at the world cup, but lose against sovjet union, and that time is the begening of the decline of hungarian futball. I was grow up at the our stadium, from late 80's, early 90's. That time the quality of the hungarian futball was highly declined. At late 90's we always fight agains the relegation, and finaly we relegated to the second league. Next year we won the second league with record point and goals, and promoted to the first league again. That time there was no money at the league, there was a lot of furtune kinght, the payments were late, or pay less than agreed. The players betting against the own match, and cheat to get big money. That was the darkest era of hungarian futball, and the crowd left from stadiums in increasingly poor condition. Many teams disappeared or were relegated to lower leagues.

At the late 20's the goverment (fidesz) push money to the futball, builted a lot of stadiums, add money to youth development incrase the insfrastructure, build a lot of pitches everyvery at the country. And also builted akademys.

That time we also received the new owner, how is currently our owner too. He pushed a lot of money to the club, and our stadium is also rebuilded at that time. We won our first leauge title at 2011. From that time we participant the europien compettitions.

Nowdays mlsz has discussion with the clubs to incrase the number of the teams. They also pay for young players playtime to the clubs.

So now the hungarian futball is much better than 10 years ago. We made the European Championship for the third time in a row. Maybe you remember our last match between England, and Hungary at Wolverhampton.

We also have a player at premier league, I think you know him Dominik Szoboszlai. He is born in my city Szekesfehervar, and start playing at my club, but his father founded the small youth club called Főnix, and he gow up at this small futball workshop.

Currently the clubs have bigger budget, than before, and able to sign better foregin players, and also lot of talents came from the academys. And also a lot of talents move to abroad to the youth leagues, also to England.   

Every single fan on here will remember Fehervar legend Loic Nego as well.

PragueAddick said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

One thing that has puzzled me throughout this, is how did they scout Dobson?

It's not like there's any connections (that i can see), like an English manager or coach there who'd previously worked with him. It's not a league renowned for having many English players there either. And if he wasn't scouted then it would also seem a pretty random club for the agent of a league one English club to contact.

Does anyone with inside info (no not you Ronnie) know how this all came about?

It has been covered above. Hungarian scout named Tamas Balogh ( havent double checked name/spelling) who is now at Brentford, previously with Fehervar. Confirmed by @Vjacheslav

soapboxsam said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Vjacheslav said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

Braziliance said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

Braziliance said:

Vjacheslav said:

Braziliance said:

Well, it seems like someone at the club who actually understands football, has realised how important Dobson could be in a relegation fight and has stood their ground. Thank Christ. 

Some of the comments not understanding the move to Hungary are quite amusing for me. 

Videoton/Fehervar have been competing in Europe and getting results/competing in recent years against the likes of: Chelsea, Ludogrets, Malmo, AEK Athens, Partizan, PAOK, Bordeaux, Reims, Köln. Do you genuinely not understand how bad the likes of those clubs would smash us to fkn pieces on the pitch 😂 Play league 1 footie surrounded by players who look like they've won a competition and don't put in half the effort you do, or, join a team that competes to win their league and is willing to pay you a very fair wage in a nice country. What a decision.

Suspect it's the people with the same view that Rangers wasn't a big move at the time for Aribo. It's a brilliant move for Dobson at this stage of his career. 

When it's all said and done, he will be able to say he played European football for one of the best teams in a different country, OR he could say, he scraped by, year after year for a club that's been mismanaged by absolute crooks in League 1. 

In an ideal world, he would have stayed, and he would have been one of the main people in charge of a promotion challenging team. Unfortunately, getting a senior role at Charlton is the easiest job application in the world apparently, and his situation has been completely mismanaged. 

Good luck to Dobson. I hope he can help keep us in this poxy league for another year, and we can wipe the stains from the club that currently have far too much say, next season. 👍🏻

Thank you for this. So many good memories, and trips.

All good, thanks for signing up and sharing your views as a Fehervar fan. 

I plan on doing a lot of travelling in the near future, and provided Dobson does end up at your club, I'll be sure to go and watch a game there when I visit Hungary 👍🏻

If you do end up with him, you genuinely have a brilliant player for your club, and he will shine surrounded by better players imo. I hope he gets the platform he deserves, I am genuinely gutted that it isn't going to be with us.

"Better players", you might be surprised at the standard out there.

I don't think I will be tbh, I can take a look at some of the results they've achieved, and watch my team struggle against the likes of Northampton, Port Vale, Burton and Carlisle, and assume the football is of a higher quality. Hungarian football is probably at it's best it's been in a long time right now and producing some very decent talents, a lot of which finding themselves competing for sides in the Bundesliga.

If we can't beat the teams I've mentioned this season, there's no doubt in my mind that these top flight European teams would shred us to pieces, and employ a much higher standard of footballer than what we watch most of the time. 

Aberdeen sit 9th in the Scottish prem and made us look like part timers in pre-season. 

I was not comparing them to us.  I was talking about Hungarian football in general.

In generally better, than 10 or 20 years ago. My first ever match was against United at 1985. We won the game with penalties. I was 4 year old child, I didn't remember anything just a crowd. In 1986 Hungary play at the world cup, but lose against sovjet union, and that time is the begening of the decline of hungarian futball. I was grow up at the our stadium, from late 80's, early 90's. That time the quality of the hungarian futball was highly declined. At late 90's we always fight agains the relegation, and finaly we relegated to the second league. Next year we won the second league with record point and goals, and promoted to the first league again. That time there was no money at the league, there was a lot of furtune kinght, the payments were late, or pay less than agreed. The players betting against the own match, and cheat to get big money. That was the darkest era of hungarian futball, and the crowd left from stadiums in increasingly poor condition. Many teams disappeared or were relegated to lower leagues.

At the late 20's the goverment (fidesz) push money to the futball, builted a lot of stadiums, add money to youth development incrase the insfrastructure, build a lot of pitches everyvery at the country. And also builted akademys.

That time we also received the new owner, how is currently our owner too. He pushed a lot of money to the club, and our stadium is also rebuilded at that time. We won our first leauge title at 2011. From that time we participant the europien compettitions.

Nowdays mlsz has discussion with the clubs to incrase the number of the teams. They also pay for young players playtime to the clubs.

So now the hungarian futball is much better than 10 years ago. We made the European Championship for the third time in a row. Maybe you remember our last match between England, and Hungary at Wolverhampton.

We also have a player at premier league, I think you know him Dominik Szoboszlai. He is born in my city Szekesfehervar, and start playing at my club, but his father founded the small youth club called Főnix, and he gow up at this small futball workshop.

Currently the clubs have bigger budget, than before, and able to sign better foregin players, and also lot of talents came from the academys. And also a lot of talents move to abroad to the youth leagues, also to England.   

Every single fan on here will remember Fehervar legend Loic Nego as well.

Geek time:
Loïc Négo played only 1 game for Cafc. 
Négo the French born player, played 59 games for France from U16 to U20.
His first words of English spoken to his colleagues at Cafc were "I'm not Full back"
Quote told by Morgan Fox in Spain on the summer break when big Bob Peeters first took over.

Négo played 232 games for Fehérvár which really isn't too shabby plus after becoming eligible for Hungary played 33 times for the national side. At 33 he is back in France playing for Le Havre.

When ever I saw Négo play for Hungary he appeared to play as a wing back and I believe this is what he meant as Rhoys Wiggins said, Peeters liked full backs to hold their positions and only get forward if the game was already won. Both Wiggins and Négo were at their best bombing forward.

There is always a back story to why players look pony at Cafc and why they find success else where...

Just look at the successful career of Simon Francis at Bournemouth where he went from no confidence after getting pelters from Charlton critics to being captain of a premier side after the journey up the divisions.

PragueAddick said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

One thing that has puzzled me throughout this, is how did they scout Dobson?

It's not like there's any connections (that i can see), like an English manager or coach there who'd previously worked with him. It's not a league renowned for having many English players there either. And if he wasn't scouted then it would also seem a pretty random club for the agent of a league one English club to contact.

Does anyone with inside info (no not you Ronnie) know how this all came about?

It has been covered above. Hungarian scout named Tamas Balogh ( havent double checked name/spelling) who is now at Brentford, previously with Fehervar. Confirmed by @Vjacheslav

YTS1978 said:

Love the fact that every comment I've made has been greeted with a LOL. Jesus....some people (hope this gets my lol count up ha!)

DOUCHER said:

randy andy said:

We all love Dobbo (well most of us), his efforts, the tackles he puts in, the yards he covers, the occasional goal he scores...

But here's the thing, we shouldn't need him. We only need him because we're shit. He's there's to cover the numerous errors his team mates make. Neither of the teams that got promoted out of this pony division needed a Dobbo,.because both teams had more quality, made less mistakes and controlled the play better.

I don't want us to keep him next season, I want us to build a team that no longer needs him.

keith jones was exactly what dobbo is - kishishev was also a dobbo 

Leuth said:

arny23394 said:

Why a bloke would willing buy and drink a beverage called unicum is a bigger mystery than what’s going on with Dobson. 

I know. I know. But it's actually pretty good, trust me