The whole situation is baffling, and the leaking of information isn't helping either.
Did Scott want Dobson to stay or not, and for that matter did Appleton rate him? After they brought in Coventry and Bakinson in January, plus with Camara and Taylor to return, if they didn't want him here next season, then why make him an offer at all? Was Coventry the right midfielder to bring in if Dobson stays, rather than a No 10?
And why did he then sign with a Hungarian side, rather than wait until the summer? And was the initial contact from Hungary for next season or for a February transfer? Was it the Hungarians pushing for a February deal, the player or Scott?
Justifiable outrage from fans at the unprofessional and disrespectful treatment of our most valuable player and club Captain, when we need him most.
The Dobson issue has been handled disgracefully. Yet another shambles. Not only have Scott et al managed to weaken the team at a critical time, they have managed to demotivate the remainder of the squad in the face of a tough relegation battle.
How much more evidence do the owner's need to convince them that the 8+8 Red Trouser Brigade are incompetent ?
Scott should be shown the door and take Rodwell with him. That will free up some wage budget for those that make a positive contribution to the club.
When I first heard the news I posted if he wants to go, let him. Now I have discovered the circumstances of his proposed departure I admit I was wrong. There's only one person I want to leave now and we all know who that is.
To be fair Dobson had best pull his socks up and get stuck in, if he doesn't I'd bench him and keep benching him til he gets that we need him at his best, not protecting himself.
Yeah that'll teach him. What else we going to do, ground him and send him to his room?
Well, it seems like someone at the club who actually understands football, has realised how important Dobson could be in a relegation fight and has stood their ground. Thank Christ.
Some of the comments not understanding the move to Hungary are quite amusing for me.
Videoton/Fehervar have been competing in Europe and getting results/competing in recent years against the likes of: Chelsea, Ludogrets, Malmo, AEK Athens, Partizan, PAOK, Bordeaux, Reims, Köln. Do you genuinely not understand how bad the likes of those clubs would smash us to fkn pieces on the pitch 😂 Play league 1 footie surrounded by players who look like they've won a competition and don't put in half the effort you do, or, join a team that competes to win their league and is willing to pay you a very fair wage in a nice country. What a decision.
Suspect it's the people with the same view that Rangers wasn't a big move at the time for Aribo. It's a brilliant move for Dobson at this stage of his career.
When it's all said and done, he will be able to say he played European football for one of the best teams in a different country, OR he could say, he scraped by, year after year for a club that's been mismanaged by absolute crooks in League 1.
In an ideal world, he would have stayed, and he would have been one of the main people in charge of a promotion challenging team. Unfortunately, getting a senior role at Charlton is the easiest job application in the world apparently, and his situation has been completely mismanaged.
Good luck to Dobson. I hope he can help keep us in this poxy league for another year, and we can wipe the stains from the club that currently have far too much say, next season. 👍🏻
For me it’s nothing to do with the perceived quality of league etc. I understand that a footballers career is very finite, and ultimately they need to try and make as much money, and play at the highest level they can, during the period they play.
If he was a single bloke, then maybe, but I just don’t understand why with a very young family, you would make such a move unless it was for an absolutely life changing wage - which I just don’t think it will be.
With 6 months left on his contract it just tells me that they know they won’t get an offer better than what Charlton offered from another English team.
Car crash of a club to let CBT and Dobbo go at a very critical / pivotal time for our battle. Must be as thick as bricks imho.
The madness being the £500k or whatever it is we picked up for CBT will be far outweighed by the losses we'll make in League Two.
Absolute bellends.
I’m not defending anyone here necessarily, but if a player (I’m talking about CBT here, not Dobbo) really wants to leave, particularly if it’s for personal reasons, can you really stop him? He’s only got to hint that he won’t be performing at his best if retained, for a club to realise there’s no point in hanging on to him.
Sadly, it happens in football, as it does in other sports and other industries.
Of course legally you could keep him in the reserves til his contract’s up, but that doesn’t help either party.
Well, it seems like someone at the club who actually understands football, has realised how important Dobson could be in a relegation fight and has stood their ground. Thank Christ.
Some of the comments not understanding the move to Hungary are quite amusing for me.
Videoton/Fehervar have been competing in Europe and getting results/competing in recent years against the likes of: Chelsea, Ludogrets, Malmo, AEK Athens, Partizan, PAOK, Bordeaux, Reims, Köln. Do you genuinely not understand how bad the likes of those clubs would smash us to fkn pieces on the pitch 😂 Play league 1 footie surrounded by players who look like they've won a competition and don't put in half the effort you do, or, join a team that competes to win their league and is willing to pay you a very fair wage in a nice country. What a decision.
Suspect it's the people with the same view that Rangers wasn't a big move at the time for Aribo. It's a brilliant move for Dobson at this stage of his career.
When it's all said and done, he will be able to say he played European football for one of the best teams in a different country, OR he could say, he scraped by, year after year for a club that's been mismanaged by absolute crooks in League 1.
In an ideal world, he would have stayed, and he would have been one of the main people in charge of a promotion challenging team. Unfortunately, getting a senior role at Charlton is the easiest job application in the world apparently, and his situation has been completely mismanaged.
Good luck to Dobson. I hope he can help keep us in this poxy league for another year, and we can wipe the stains from the club that currently have far too much say, next season. 👍🏻
For me it’s nothing to do with the perceived quality of league etc. I understand that a footballers career is very finite, and ultimately they need to try and make as much money, and play at the highest level they can, during the period they play.
If he was a single bloke, then maybe, but I just don’t understand why with a very young family, you would make such a move unless it was for an absolutely life changing wage - which I just don’t think it will be.
With 6 months left on his contract it just tells me that they know they won’t get an offer better than what Charlton offered from another English team.
Don't know what he earns here, but it's more than possible for him to be getting towards £1m with bonuses etc at the new club plus a decent signing on fee, Hungary has very low tax rates as well (flat 15% on income), so likely he'd need to earn at least 50% more in the UK to net the same.
Plus many people see working abroad for a period as an adventure and an opportunity.
What an absolute mess Methven and Scott are making of running this club. Everything they seem to touch goes wrong. We may have serious backers, but if they are that serious, then they’ll look at these two and think, clowns.
Well, it seems like someone at the club who actually understands football, has realised how important Dobson could be in a relegation fight and has stood their ground. Thank Christ.
Some of the comments not understanding the move to Hungary are quite amusing for me.
Videoton/Fehervar have been competing in Europe and getting results/competing in recent years against the likes of: Chelsea, Ludogrets, Malmo, AEK Athens, Partizan, PAOK, Bordeaux, Reims, Köln. Do you genuinely not understand how bad the likes of those clubs would smash us to fkn pieces on the pitch 😂 Play league 1 footie surrounded by players who look like they've won a competition and don't put in half the effort you do, or, join a team that competes to win their league and is willing to pay you a very fair wage in a nice country. What a decision.
Suspect it's the people with the same view that Rangers wasn't a big move at the time for Aribo. It's a brilliant move for Dobson at this stage of his career.
When it's all said and done, he will be able to say he played European football for one of the best teams in a different country, OR he could say, he scraped by, year after year for a club that's been mismanaged by absolute crooks in League 1.
In an ideal world, he would have stayed, and he would have been one of the main people in charge of a promotion challenging team. Unfortunately, getting a senior role at Charlton is the easiest job application in the world apparently, and his situation has been completely mismanaged.
Good luck to Dobson. I hope he can help keep us in this poxy league for another year, and we can wipe the stains from the club that currently have far too much say, next season. 👍🏻
For me it’s nothing to do with the perceived quality of league etc. I understand that a footballers career is very finite, and ultimately they need to try and make as much money, and play at the highest level they can, during the period they play.
If he was a single bloke, then maybe, but I just don’t understand why with a very young family, you would make such a move unless it was for an absolutely life changing wage - which I just don’t think it will be.
With 6 months left on his contract it just tells me that they know they won’t get an offer better than what Charlton offered from another English team.
Don't know what he earns here, but it's more than possible for him to be getting towards £1m with bonuses etc at the new club plus a decent signing on fee, Hungary has very low tax rates as well (flat 15% on income), so likely he'd need to earn at least 50% more in the UK to net the same.
Plus many people see working abroad for a period as an adventure and an opportunity.
I can’t speak for other people or George Dobson, but I don’t think in life when you have a baby, that you are looking for adventure at that point.
Just doing some research and the average salary seems to be about £8,500 a month. However Ferenacvos will pay significantly better and you have to expect George will be one of the higher earners in that team as well.
However there needs to be a massive increase to the average to make it anywhere near a million a year.
Car crash of a club to let CBT and Dobbo go at a very critical / pivotal time for our battle. Must be as thick as bricks imho.
The madness being the £500k or whatever it is we picked up for CBT will be far outweighed by the losses we'll make in League Two.
Absolute bellends.
I’m not defending anyone here necessarily, but if a player (I’m talking about CBT here, not Dobbo) really wants to leave, particularly if it’s for personal reasons, can you really stop him? He’s only got to hint that he won’t be performing at his best if retained, for a club to realise there’s no point in hanging on to him.
Sadly, it happens in football, as it does in other sports and other industries.
Of course legally you could keep him in the reserves til his contract’s up, but that doesn’t help either party.
James there are a few things you are missing in your post. Not knocking your opinion on CBT, if I had the chance to go to a side that may go up and return to somewhere near my home on more money I'd take it. But your post doesn't take on board where the club sits with these transfers. Firstly, Andy Scott has a big part to play in CBT leaving and Dobsons current position within the club. Has Andy Scott replaced CBT, no, in fact he decided, not Curtis Fleming, that we would play with wing backs instead. Fleming highlighted that we failed to deliver numerous opportunities to cross the ball against Derby and the same players were guilty against Reading. So Andy Scott's idea is now proving to be a failure. Secondly have a look at the midfield three on Saturday, only one player, Connor Coventry, is on a contract at Charlton, Louie Watson and Bakinson won't be here in two months, and while you are at it take a look at the centre forward we have brought in, and his performances thus far. You may think that replacing your best players with short term replacements who may or may not be committed or not fully fit is a good idea, the results are proving otherwise and is probably the reason that Jones has called a halt to Dobsons move. Also you need to look back in history to see what happens when we sell and don't replace. Firstly a positive, when we sold Robert Lee, a Charlton legend, we replaced him with John Robinson, a totally different type of player but one who himself, went on to become a Charlton legend. Now the negative, when we sold Yann Kermogant, and never replaced him the club almost got relegated, subsequent transfers out with poor and non committed players coming in eventually led to Charlton being relegated whilst Duchatelet was in charge, don't be fooled into thinking that won't happen again.
Whilst on the face of it, it's not great to let CBT go during a relegation battle, if the player didn't want to be here and had openly expressed a desire to leave then i don't have an issue with it. Would he have been that motivated for us in the run in? Even Pep wouldn't keep a player who didn't want to be at the club.
Dobson is different though, as he's a player who you know will still put the effort in, and in an ideal world wouldn't leave had he got a proper contract offer.
Well, it seems like someone at the club who actually understands football, has realised how important Dobson could be in a relegation fight and has stood their ground. Thank Christ.
Some of the comments not understanding the move to Hungary are quite amusing for me.
Videoton/Fehervar have been competing in Europe and getting results/competing in recent years against the likes of: Chelsea, Ludogrets, Malmo, AEK Athens, Partizan, PAOK, Bordeaux, Reims, Köln. Do you genuinely not understand how bad the likes of those clubs would smash us to fkn pieces on the pitch 😂 Play league 1 footie surrounded by players who look like they've won a competition and don't put in half the effort you do, or, join a team that competes to win their league and is willing to pay you a very fair wage in a nice country. What a decision.
Suspect it's the people with the same view that Rangers wasn't a big move at the time for Aribo. It's a brilliant move for Dobson at this stage of his career.
When it's all said and done, he will be able to say he played European football for one of the best teams in a different country, OR he could say, he scraped by, year after year for a club that's been mismanaged by absolute crooks in League 1.
In an ideal world, he would have stayed, and he would have been one of the main people in charge of a promotion challenging team. Unfortunately, getting a senior role at Charlton is the easiest job application in the world apparently, and his situation has been completely mismanaged.
Good luck to Dobson. I hope he can help keep us in this poxy league for another year, and we can wipe the stains from the club that currently have far too much say, next season. 👍🏻
Thank you for this. So many good memories, and trips.
All good, thanks for signing up and sharing your views as a Fehervar fan.
I plan on doing a lot of travelling in the near future, and provided Dobson does end up at your club, I'll be sure to go and watch a game there when I visit Hungary 👍🏻
If you do end up with him, you genuinely have a brilliant player for your club, and he will shine surrounded by better players imo. I hope he gets the platform he deserves, I am genuinely gutted that it isn't going to be with us.
"Better players", you might be surprised at the standard out there.
I don't think I will be tbh, I can take a look at some of the results they've achieved, and watch my team struggle against the likes of Northampton, Port Vale, Burton and Carlisle, and assume the football is of a higher quality. Hungarian football is probably at it's best it's been in a long time right now and producing some very decent talents, a lot of which finding themselves competing for sides in the Bundesliga.
If we can't beat the teams I've mentioned this season, there's no doubt in my mind that these top flight European teams would shred us to pieces, and employ a much higher standard of footballer than what we watch most of the time.
Aberdeen sit 9th in the Scottish prem and made us look like part timers in pre-season.
I was not comparing them to us. I was talking about Hungarian football in general.
In generally better, than 10 or 20 years ago. My first ever match was against United at 1985. We won the game with penalties. I was 4 year old child, I didn't remember anything just a crowd. In 1986 Hungary play at the world cup, but lose against sovjet union, and that time is the begening of the decline of hungarian futball. I was grow up at the our stadium, from late 80's, early 90's. That time the quality of the hungarian futball was highly declined. At late 90's we always fight agains the relegation, and finaly we relegated to the second league. Next year we won the second league with record point and goals, and promoted to the first league again. That time there was no money at the league, there was a lot of furtune kinght, the payments were late, or pay less than agreed. The players betting against the own match, and cheat to get big money. That was the darkest era of hungarian futball, and the crowd left from stadiums in increasingly poor condition. Many teams disappeared or were relegated to lower leagues.
At the late 20's the goverment (fidesz) push money to the futball, builted a lot of stadiums, add money to youth development incrase the insfrastructure, build a lot of pitches everyvery at the country. And also builted akademys.
That time we also received the new owner, how is currently our owner too. He pushed a lot of money to the club, and our stadium is also rebuilded at that time. We won our first leauge title at 2011. From that time we participant the europien compettitions.
Nowdays mlsz has discussion with the clubs to incrase the number of the teams. They also pay for young players playtime to the clubs.
So now the hungarian futball is much better than 10 years ago. We made the European Championship for the third time in a row. Maybe you remember our last match between England, and Hungary at Wolverhampton.
We also have a player at premier league, I think you know him Dominik Szoboszlai. He is born in my city Szekesfehervar, and start playing at my club, but his father founded the small youth club called Főnix, and he gow up at this small futball workshop.
Currently the clubs have bigger budget, than before, and able to sign better foregin players, and also lot of talents came from the academys. And also a lot of talents move to abroad to the youth leagues, also to England.
Considering how (rightly) obsessed people here are with Charlton's mid-20th-century heyday, it's surprising we don't pay similar respects to Hungary, whose own heyday was at the same time and saw them as the best side in the world.
Shame it's taken a hard-right ultranationalist government to see sorting out football as a means to the people's hearts (political post alert! oh no!) but maybe there's a lesson here for more liberal governments too. Not that in this country, enough people will see football as needing to be sorted out, seeing as most seem to be fans of the Premiership elite. I digress!
Well, it seems like someone at the club who actually understands football, has realised how important Dobson could be in a relegation fight and has stood their ground. Thank Christ.
Some of the comments not understanding the move to Hungary are quite amusing for me.
Videoton/Fehervar have been competing in Europe and getting results/competing in recent years against the likes of: Chelsea, Ludogrets, Malmo, AEK Athens, Partizan, PAOK, Bordeaux, Reims, Köln. Do you genuinely not understand how bad the likes of those clubs would smash us to fkn pieces on the pitch 😂 Play league 1 footie surrounded by players who look like they've won a competition and don't put in half the effort you do, or, join a team that competes to win their league and is willing to pay you a very fair wage in a nice country. What a decision.
Suspect it's the people with the same view that Rangers wasn't a big move at the time for Aribo. It's a brilliant move for Dobson at this stage of his career.
When it's all said and done, he will be able to say he played European football for one of the best teams in a different country, OR he could say, he scraped by, year after year for a club that's been mismanaged by absolute crooks in League 1.
In an ideal world, he would have stayed, and he would have been one of the main people in charge of a promotion challenging team. Unfortunately, getting a senior role at Charlton is the easiest job application in the world apparently, and his situation has been completely mismanaged.
Good luck to Dobson. I hope he can help keep us in this poxy league for another year, and we can wipe the stains from the club that currently have far too much say, next season. 👍🏻
Thank you for this. So many good memories, and trips.
All good, thanks for signing up and sharing your views as a Fehervar fan.
I plan on doing a lot of travelling in the near future, and provided Dobson does end up at your club, I'll be sure to go and watch a game there when I visit Hungary 👍🏻
If you do end up with him, you genuinely have a brilliant player for your club, and he will shine surrounded by better players imo. I hope he gets the platform he deserves, I am genuinely gutted that it isn't going to be with us.
"Better players", you might be surprised at the standard out there.
I don't think I will be tbh, I can take a look at some of the results they've achieved, and watch my team struggle against the likes of Northampton, Port Vale, Burton and Carlisle, and assume the football is of a higher quality. Hungarian football is probably at it's best it's been in a long time right now and producing some very decent talents, a lot of which finding themselves competing for sides in the Bundesliga.
If we can't beat the teams I've mentioned this season, there's no doubt in my mind that these top flight European teams would shred us to pieces, and employ a much higher standard of footballer than what we watch most of the time.
Aberdeen sit 9th in the Scottish prem and made us look like part timers in pre-season.
I was not comparing them to us. I was talking about Hungarian football in general.
In generally better, than 10 or 20 years ago. My first ever match was against United at 1985. We won the game with penalties. I was 4 year old child, I didn't remember anything just a crowd. In 1986 Hungary play at the world cup, but lose against sovjet union, and that time is the begening of the decline of hungarian futball. I was grow up at the our stadium, from late 80's, early 90's. That time the quality of the hungarian futball was highly declined. At late 90's we always fight agains the relegation, and finaly we relegated to the second league. Next year we won the second league with record point and goals, and promoted to the first league again. That time there was no money at the league, there was a lot of furtune kinght, the payments were late, or pay less than agreed. The players betting against the own match, and cheat to get big money. That was the darkest era of hungarian futball, and the crowd left from stadiums in increasingly poor condition. Many teams disappeared or were relegated to lower leagues.
At the late 20's the goverment (fidesz) push money to the futball, builted a lot of stadiums, add money to youth development incrase the insfrastructure, build a lot of pitches everyvery at the country. And also builted akademys.
That time we also received the new owner, how is currently our owner too. He pushed a lot of money to the club, and our stadium is also rebuilded at that time. We won our first leauge title at 2011. From that time we participant the europien compettitions.
Nowdays mlsz has discussion with the clubs to incrase the number of the teams. They also pay for young players playtime to the clubs.
So now the hungarian futball is much better than 10 years ago. We made the European Championship for the third time in a row. Maybe you remember our last match between England, and Hungary at Wolverhampton.
We also have a player at premier league, I think you know him Dominik Szoboszlai. He is born in my city Szekesfehervar, and start playing at my club, but his father founded the small youth club called Főnix, and he gow up at this small futball workshop.
Currently the clubs have bigger budget, than before, and able to sign better foregin players, and also lot of talents came from the academys. And also a lot of talents move to abroad to the youth leagues, also to England.
Every single fan on here will remember Fehervar legend Loic Nego as well.
Well, it seems like someone at the club who actually understands football, has realised how important Dobson could be in a relegation fight and has stood their ground. Thank Christ.
Some of the comments not understanding the move to Hungary are quite amusing for me.
Videoton/Fehervar have been competing in Europe and getting results/competing in recent years against the likes of: Chelsea, Ludogrets, Malmo, AEK Athens, Partizan, PAOK, Bordeaux, Reims, Köln. Do you genuinely not understand how bad the likes of those clubs would smash us to fkn pieces on the pitch 😂 Play league 1 footie surrounded by players who look like they've won a competition and don't put in half the effort you do, or, join a team that competes to win their league and is willing to pay you a very fair wage in a nice country. What a decision.
Suspect it's the people with the same view that Rangers wasn't a big move at the time for Aribo. It's a brilliant move for Dobson at this stage of his career.
When it's all said and done, he will be able to say he played European football for one of the best teams in a different country, OR he could say, he scraped by, year after year for a club that's been mismanaged by absolute crooks in League 1.
In an ideal world, he would have stayed, and he would have been one of the main people in charge of a promotion challenging team. Unfortunately, getting a senior role at Charlton is the easiest job application in the world apparently, and his situation has been completely mismanaged.
Good luck to Dobson. I hope he can help keep us in this poxy league for another year, and we can wipe the stains from the club that currently have far too much say, next season. 👍🏻
For me it’s nothing to do with the perceived quality of league etc. I understand that a footballers career is very finite, and ultimately they need to try and make as much money, and play at the highest level they can, during the period they play.
If he was a single bloke, then maybe, but I just don’t understand why with a very young family, you would make such a move unless it was for an absolutely life changing wage - which I just don’t think it will be.
With 6 months left on his contract it just tells me that they know they won’t get an offer better than what Charlton offered from another English team.
Don't know what he earns here, but it's more than possible for him to be getting towards £1m with bonuses etc at the new club plus a decent signing on fee, Hungary has very low tax rates as well (flat 15% on income), so likely he'd need to earn at least 50% more in the UK to net the same.
Plus many people see working abroad for a period as an adventure and an opportunity.
I can’t speak for other people or George Dobson, but I don’t think in life when you have a baby, that you are looking for adventure at that point.
Just doing some research and the average salary seems to be about £8,500 a month. However Ferenacvos will pay significantly better and you have to expect George will be one of the higher earners in that team as well.
However there needs to be a massive increase to the average to make it anywhere near a million a year.
8500 is an avarage, convert with hungarin tax rates for the players this equils 12K. The key is the avarage, becasue this also included the young players too. The top earners at most are higher. At ferencvaros much more higher.
Well, it seems like someone at the club who actually understands football, has realised how important Dobson could be in a relegation fight and has stood their ground. Thank Christ.
Some of the comments not understanding the move to Hungary are quite amusing for me.
Videoton/Fehervar have been competing in Europe and getting results/competing in recent years against the likes of: Chelsea, Ludogrets, Malmo, AEK Athens, Partizan, PAOK, Bordeaux, Reims, Köln. Do you genuinely not understand how bad the likes of those clubs would smash us to fkn pieces on the pitch 😂 Play league 1 footie surrounded by players who look like they've won a competition and don't put in half the effort you do, or, join a team that competes to win their league and is willing to pay you a very fair wage in a nice country. What a decision.
Suspect it's the people with the same view that Rangers wasn't a big move at the time for Aribo. It's a brilliant move for Dobson at this stage of his career.
When it's all said and done, he will be able to say he played European football for one of the best teams in a different country, OR he could say, he scraped by, year after year for a club that's been mismanaged by absolute crooks in League 1.
In an ideal world, he would have stayed, and he would have been one of the main people in charge of a promotion challenging team. Unfortunately, getting a senior role at Charlton is the easiest job application in the world apparently, and his situation has been completely mismanaged.
Good luck to Dobson. I hope he can help keep us in this poxy league for another year, and we can wipe the stains from the club that currently have far too much say, next season. 👍🏻
For me it’s nothing to do with the perceived quality of league etc. I understand that a footballers career is very finite, and ultimately they need to try and make as much money, and play at the highest level they can, during the period they play.
If he was a single bloke, then maybe, but I just don’t understand why with a very young family, you would make such a move unless it was for an absolutely life changing wage - which I just don’t think it will be.
With 6 months left on his contract it just tells me that they know they won’t get an offer better than what Charlton offered from another English team.
Don't know what he earns here, but it's more than possible for him to be getting towards £1m with bonuses etc at the new club plus a decent signing on fee, Hungary has very low tax rates as well (flat 15% on income), so likely he'd need to earn at least 50% more in the UK to net the same.
Plus many people see working abroad for a period as an adventure and an opportunity.
I can’t speak for other people or George Dobson, but I don’t think in life when you have a baby, that you are looking for adventure at that point.
Just doing some research and the average salary seems to be about £8,500 a month. However Ferenacvos will pay significantly better and you have to expect George will be one of the higher earners in that team as well.
However there needs to be a massive increase to the average to make it anywhere near a million a year.
That's all well and good, but he hasn't signed for Ferencvaros.
Well, it seems like someone at the club who actually understands football, has realised how important Dobson could be in a relegation fight and has stood their ground. Thank Christ.
Some of the comments not understanding the move to Hungary are quite amusing for me.
Videoton/Fehervar have been competing in Europe and getting results/competing in recent years against the likes of: Chelsea, Ludogrets, Malmo, AEK Athens, Partizan, PAOK, Bordeaux, Reims, Köln. Do you genuinely not understand how bad the likes of those clubs would smash us to fkn pieces on the pitch 😂 Play league 1 footie surrounded by players who look like they've won a competition and don't put in half the effort you do, or, join a team that competes to win their league and is willing to pay you a very fair wage in a nice country. What a decision.
Suspect it's the people with the same view that Rangers wasn't a big move at the time for Aribo. It's a brilliant move for Dobson at this stage of his career.
When it's all said and done, he will be able to say he played European football for one of the best teams in a different country, OR he could say, he scraped by, year after year for a club that's been mismanaged by absolute crooks in League 1.
In an ideal world, he would have stayed, and he would have been one of the main people in charge of a promotion challenging team. Unfortunately, getting a senior role at Charlton is the easiest job application in the world apparently, and his situation has been completely mismanaged.
Good luck to Dobson. I hope he can help keep us in this poxy league for another year, and we can wipe the stains from the club that currently have far too much say, next season. 👍🏻
For me it’s nothing to do with the perceived quality of league etc. I understand that a footballers career is very finite, and ultimately they need to try and make as much money, and play at the highest level they can, during the period they play.
If he was a single bloke, then maybe, but I just don’t understand why with a very young family, you would make such a move unless it was for an absolutely life changing wage - which I just don’t think it will be.
With 6 months left on his contract it just tells me that they know they won’t get an offer better than what Charlton offered from another English team.
Don't know what he earns here, but it's more than possible for him to be getting towards £1m with bonuses etc at the new club plus a decent signing on fee, Hungary has very low tax rates as well (flat 15% on income), so likely he'd need to earn at least 50% more in the UK to net the same.
Plus many people see working abroad for a period as an adventure and an opportunity.
I can’t speak for other people or George Dobson, but I don’t think in life when you have a baby, that you are looking for adventure at that point.
Just doing some research and the average salary seems to be about £8,500 a month. However Ferenacvos will pay significantly better and you have to expect George will be one of the higher earners in that team as well.
However there needs to be a massive increase to the average to make it anywhere near a million a year.
That's all well and good, but he hasn't signed for Ferencvaros.
Well, it seems like someone at the club who actually understands football, has realised how important Dobson could be in a relegation fight and has stood their ground. Thank Christ.
Some of the comments not understanding the move to Hungary are quite amusing for me.
Videoton/Fehervar have been competing in Europe and getting results/competing in recent years against the likes of: Chelsea, Ludogrets, Malmo, AEK Athens, Partizan, PAOK, Bordeaux, Reims, Köln. Do you genuinely not understand how bad the likes of those clubs would smash us to fkn pieces on the pitch 😂 Play league 1 footie surrounded by players who look like they've won a competition and don't put in half the effort you do, or, join a team that competes to win their league and is willing to pay you a very fair wage in a nice country. What a decision.
Suspect it's the people with the same view that Rangers wasn't a big move at the time for Aribo. It's a brilliant move for Dobson at this stage of his career.
When it's all said and done, he will be able to say he played European football for one of the best teams in a different country, OR he could say, he scraped by, year after year for a club that's been mismanaged by absolute crooks in League 1.
In an ideal world, he would have stayed, and he would have been one of the main people in charge of a promotion challenging team. Unfortunately, getting a senior role at Charlton is the easiest job application in the world apparently, and his situation has been completely mismanaged.
Good luck to Dobson. I hope he can help keep us in this poxy league for another year, and we can wipe the stains from the club that currently have far too much say, next season. 👍🏻
For me it’s nothing to do with the perceived quality of league etc. I understand that a footballers career is very finite, and ultimately they need to try and make as much money, and play at the highest level they can, during the period they play.
If he was a single bloke, then maybe, but I just don’t understand why with a very young family, you would make such a move unless it was for an absolutely life changing wage - which I just don’t think it will be.
With 6 months left on his contract it just tells me that they know they won’t get an offer better than what Charlton offered from another English team.
Don't know what he earns here, but it's more than possible for him to be getting towards £1m with bonuses etc at the new club plus a decent signing on fee, Hungary has very low tax rates as well (flat 15% on income), so likely he'd need to earn at least 50% more in the UK to net the same.
Plus many people see working abroad for a period as an adventure and an opportunity.
I can’t speak for other people or George Dobson, but I don’t think in life when you have a baby, that you are looking for adventure at that point.
Just doing some research and the average salary seems to be about £8,500 a month. However Ferenacvos will pay significantly better and you have to expect George will be one of the higher earners in that team as well.
However there needs to be a massive increase to the average to make it anywhere near a million a year.
If Dobson earns £11-12K pw there which seems possible based on your post then his take home will be equivalent to him earning £1M pa here.
Even at lower levels the difference is huge due to the tax.
Let's imagine we agreed to pay £6K pw. So £312K pa = £172K after tax in UK. Then assume the Hungarian club agreed £8.5K pw - doesn't seem unreasonable based on your post above = £376K take home, so a little over double, and in 3 years sets him up for life.
Well, it seems like someone at the club who actually understands football, has realised how important Dobson could be in a relegation fight and has stood their ground. Thank Christ.
Some of the comments not understanding the move to Hungary are quite amusing for me.
Videoton/Fehervar have been competing in Europe and getting results/competing in recent years against the likes of: Chelsea, Ludogrets, Malmo, AEK Athens, Partizan, PAOK, Bordeaux, Reims, Köln. Do you genuinely not understand how bad the likes of those clubs would smash us to fkn pieces on the pitch 😂 Play league 1 footie surrounded by players who look like they've won a competition and don't put in half the effort you do, or, join a team that competes to win their league and is willing to pay you a very fair wage in a nice country. What a decision.
Suspect it's the people with the same view that Rangers wasn't a big move at the time for Aribo. It's a brilliant move for Dobson at this stage of his career.
When it's all said and done, he will be able to say he played European football for one of the best teams in a different country, OR he could say, he scraped by, year after year for a club that's been mismanaged by absolute crooks in League 1.
In an ideal world, he would have stayed, and he would have been one of the main people in charge of a promotion challenging team. Unfortunately, getting a senior role at Charlton is the easiest job application in the world apparently, and his situation has been completely mismanaged.
Good luck to Dobson. I hope he can help keep us in this poxy league for another year, and we can wipe the stains from the club that currently have far too much say, next season. 👍🏻
For me it’s nothing to do with the perceived quality of league etc. I understand that a footballers career is very finite, and ultimately they need to try and make as much money, and play at the highest level they can, during the period they play.
If he was a single bloke, then maybe, but I just don’t understand why with a very young family, you would make such a move unless it was for an absolutely life changing wage - which I just don’t think it will be.
With 6 months left on his contract it just tells me that they know they won’t get an offer better than what Charlton offered from another English team.
Don't know what he earns here, but it's more than possible for him to be getting towards £1m with bonuses etc at the new club plus a decent signing on fee, Hungary has very low tax rates as well (flat 15% on income), so likely he'd need to earn at least 50% more in the UK to net the same.
Plus many people see working abroad for a period as an adventure and an opportunity.
I can’t speak for other people or George Dobson, but I don’t think in life when you have a baby, that you are looking for adventure at that point.
Just doing some research and the average salary seems to be about £8,500 a month. However Ferenacvos will pay significantly better and you have to expect George will be one of the higher earners in that team as well.
However there needs to be a massive increase to the average to make it anywhere near a million a year.
That's all well and good, but he hasn't signed for Ferencvaros.
Oh, wow, not sure why I thought it was Ferencvaros.
I’ve actually been to Székesfehérvár/Fehérvár where Dobson will be based, on my way to Lake Balaton one year.
All I can really remember of that time is an awful tasting drink called ‘Unicum’.
Good morning. It's great that you educate all of us with facts and insights about HU football and your club. We often have to do similar to "ignorant" outsiders, because we are obsessive about our club, as you are, and we all recognise you as 'one of us" a proper fan who goes away games.
But when football professionals in the UK (as opposed to fans) question whether moving to the NB1 is a career move for Dobbo they are looking at it in a global context. HU is very much like CZ; population about 10mill, ex communist country in Central Europe with a football pedigree (actually similar traditional playing style - the Vienna school - according to some). What you wrote about the recent improvement in HU, is similar to what I see here in CZ, with the exception that politicians here have not been involved, thankfully. But these two leagues struggle, not least because the best players will always be quickly lured away to the bigger Euro leagues.
The average attendance in NB1 was the best since 2011/12. It was 3,539. You mention Puskas Academy, one place behind your lot in the table. Isn't it fair to describe this club as basically completely artificial, playing in a village with a population of 1,500 - that just happens to be Orban's home village? Despite their success Puskas Academy saw the lowest attendance in the last year, recorded as exactly 800.
Dobbo has regularly played at the Valley in front of 15,000 plus. He captained us at Old Trafford in front of 60,000. I'm not sure of the average in L1 but it's more than 3,500, for sure. In May 2019 we reached the L1 playoffs. My neighbour, a big Sparta Prague fan, loved my enthusiasm and wondered if he could come with me, but I could see his scepticism. He had heard that in the semi-final home leg we had sold out th Valley (25,500). But Wembley, he didn't believe we could f it. When we started the journey across London to get there, and the trains were awash with Charlton fans, he started to wonder. When the teams came out, and Wembley was full, he finally had to accept it. There were 78,000 fans in there for a Third Division game. And it was not just us and Sunderland. It is the same each season for that game
This is far from the end of the argument either - but I have got to go out so I'll stop here. I'm just putting a different context on the "opportunity" awaiting Dobbo.
Well, it seems like someone at the club who actually understands football, has realised how important Dobson could be in a relegation fight and has stood their ground. Thank Christ.
Some of the comments not understanding the move to Hungary are quite amusing for me.
Videoton/Fehervar have been competing in Europe and getting results/competing in recent years against the likes of: Chelsea, Ludogrets, Malmo, AEK Athens, Partizan, PAOK, Bordeaux, Reims, Köln. Do you genuinely not understand how bad the likes of those clubs would smash us to fkn pieces on the pitch 😂 Play league 1 footie surrounded by players who look like they've won a competition and don't put in half the effort you do, or, join a team that competes to win their league and is willing to pay you a very fair wage in a nice country. What a decision.
Suspect it's the people with the same view that Rangers wasn't a big move at the time for Aribo. It's a brilliant move for Dobson at this stage of his career.
When it's all said and done, he will be able to say he played European football for one of the best teams in a different country, OR he could say, he scraped by, year after year for a club that's been mismanaged by absolute crooks in League 1.
In an ideal world, he would have stayed, and he would have been one of the main people in charge of a promotion challenging team. Unfortunately, getting a senior role at Charlton is the easiest job application in the world apparently, and his situation has been completely mismanaged.
Good luck to Dobson. I hope he can help keep us in this poxy league for another year, and we can wipe the stains from the club that currently have far too much say, next season. 👍🏻
For me it’s nothing to do with the perceived quality of league etc. I understand that a footballers career is very finite, and ultimately they need to try and make as much money, and play at the highest level they can, during the period they play.
If he was a single bloke, then maybe, but I just don’t understand why with a very young family, you would make such a move unless it was for an absolutely life changing wage - which I just don’t think it will be.
With 6 months left on his contract it just tells me that they know they won’t get an offer better than what Charlton offered from another English team.
Don't know what he earns here, but it's more than possible for him to be getting towards £1m with bonuses etc at the new club plus a decent signing on fee, Hungary has very low tax rates as well (flat 15% on income), so likely he'd need to earn at least 50% more in the UK to net the same.
Plus many people see working abroad for a period as an adventure and an opportunity.
I can’t speak for other people or George Dobson, but I don’t think in life when you have a baby, that you are looking for adventure at that point.
Just doing some research and the average salary seems to be about £8,500 a month. However Ferenacvos will pay significantly better and you have to expect George will be one of the higher earners in that team as well.
However there needs to be a massive increase to the average to make it anywhere near a million a year.
If Dobson earns £11-12K pw there which seems possible based on your post then his take home will be equivalent to him earning £1M pa here.
Even at lower levels the difference is huge due to the tax.
Let's imagine we agreed to pay £6K pw. So £312K pa = £172K after tax in UK. Then assume the Hungarian club agreed £8.5K pw - doesn't seem unreasonable based on your post above = £376K take home, so a little over double, and in 3 years sets him up for life.
Think you misread my post. The average salary is £8,500 a month, which is like £2,000 per week. I’m sure he is being offered more than that, but £10,000 a week more?
The CBT loan is understandable, the player wanted to go, was faking an injury to get the move, and had downed tools
I get it, but what I don't understand is how Scott could look at this team and not add any wingers or creative players in the window. Even with CBT staying we needed at least 2 of those types of players. Absolute mess and this should without doubt be the end of Scott.
One thing that has puzzled me throughout this, is how did they scout Dobson?
It's not like there's any connections (that i can see), like an English manager or coach there who'd previously worked with him. It's not a league renowned for having many English players there either. And if he wasn't scouted then it would also seem a pretty random club for the agent of a league one English club to contact.
Does anyone with inside info (no not you Ronnie) know how this all came about?
Good morning. It's great that you educate all of us with facts and insights about HU football and your club. We often have to do similar to "ignorant" outsiders, because we are obsessive about our club, as you are, and we all recognise you as 'one of us" a proper fan who goes away games.
But when football professionals in the UK (as opposed to fans) question whether moving to the NB1 is a career move for Dobbo they are looking at it in a global context. HU is very much like CZ; population about 10mill, ex communist country in Central Europe with a football pedigree (actually similar traditional playing style - the Vienna school - according to some). What you wrote about the recent improvement in HU, is similar to what I see here in CZ, with the exception that politicians here have not been involved, thankfully. But these two leagues struggle, not least because the best players will always be quickly lured away to the bigger Euro leagues.
The average attendance in NB1 was the best since 2011/12. It was 3,539. You mention Puskas Academy, one place behind your lot in the table. Isn't it fair to describe this club as basically completely artificial, playing in a village with a population of 1,500 - that just happens to be Orban's home village? Despite their success Puskas Academy saw the lowest attendance in the last year, recorded as exactly 800.
Dobbo has regularly played at the Valley in front of 15,000 plus. He captained us at Old Trafford in front of 60,000. I'm not sure of the average in L1 but it's more than 3,500, for sure. In May 2019 we reached the L1 playoffs. My neighbour, a big Sparta Prague fan, loved my enthusiasm and wondered if he could come with me, but I could see his scepticism. He had heard that in the semi-final home leg we had sold out th Valley (25,500). But Wembley, he didn't believe we could f it. When we started the journey across London to get there, and the trains were awash with Charlton fans, he started to wonder. When the teams came out, and Wembley was full, he finally had to accept it. There were 78,000 fans in there for a Third Division game. And it was not just us and Sunderland. It is the same each season for that game
This is far from the end of the argument either - but I have got to go out so I'll stop here. I'm just putting a different context on the "opportunity" awaiting Dobbo.
I know our numbers, and also know the other leagues.
I love the big matches with 10+ crowd. I was at cologne at the playoff 45k attendance, when we beat Köln, and also at the home game.
I also went several times to the national team matches with more than 60K people attendance. I have a ticket also for the match against scotland at Stuttgart at the EURO 2024. As I know we have 500k ticket request for this match, I'm so lucky to get a ticket for this match.
I see your point. I know that our team is not a dream of Dobbo, but it can be a next step for his carrier.
It is journey for him, and maybe at the europian compatition can help him to highlight his performance for bigger clubs, I know my club is just a station, not a destination for him.
One thing that has puzzled me throughout this, is how did they scout Dobson?
It's not like there's any connections (that i can see), like an English manager or coach there who'd previously worked with him. It's not a league renowned for having many English players there either. And if he wasn't scouted then it would also seem a pretty random club for the agent of a league one English club to contact.
Does anyone with inside info (no not you Ronnie) know how this all came about?
I'm sure I saw someone say they had a scout who had been based at an English club.
One thing that has puzzled me throughout this, is how did they scout Dobson?
It's not like there's any connections (that i can see), like an English manager or coach there who'd previously worked with him. It's not a league renowned for having many English players there either. And if he wasn't scouted then it would also seem a pretty random club for the agent of a league one English club to contact.
Does anyone with inside info (no not you Ronnie) know how this all came about?
It has been covered above. Hungarian scout named Tamas Balogh ( havent double checked name/spelling) who is now at Brentford, previously with Fehervar. Confirmed by @Vjacheslav
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Absolute bellends.
Justifiable outrage from fans at the unprofessional and disrespectful treatment of our most valuable player and club Captain, when we need him most.
The Dobson issue has been handled disgracefully. Yet another shambles. Not only have Scott et al managed to weaken the team at a critical time, they have managed to demotivate the remainder of the squad in the face of a tough relegation battle.
How much more evidence do the owner's need to convince them that the 8+8 Red Trouser Brigade are incompetent ?
Scott should be shown the door and take Rodwell with him. That will free up some wage budget for those that make a positive contribution to the club.
If he was a single bloke, then maybe, but I just don’t understand why with a very young family, you would make such a move unless it was for an absolutely life changing wage - which I just don’t think it will be.
With 6 months left on his contract it just tells me that they know they won’t get an offer better than what Charlton offered from another English team.
Plus many people see working abroad for a period as an adventure and an opportunity.
Dobson is different though, as he's a player who you know will still put the effort in, and in an ideal world wouldn't leave had he got a proper contract offer.
Shame it's taken a hard-right ultranationalist government to see sorting out football as a means to the people's hearts (political post alert! oh no!) but maybe there's a lesson here for more liberal governments too. Not that in this country, enough people will see football as needing to be sorted out, seeing as most seem to be fans of the Premiership elite. I digress!
If Dobson earns £11-12K pw there which seems possible based on your post then his take home will be equivalent to him earning £1M pa here.
Even at lower levels the difference is huge due to the tax.
Let's imagine we agreed to pay £6K pw. So £312K pa = £172K after tax in UK. Then assume the Hungarian club agreed £8.5K pw - doesn't seem unreasonable based on your post above = £376K take home, so a little over double, and in 3 years sets him up for life.
I’ve actually been to Székesfehérvár/Fehérvár
where Dobson will be based, on my way to Lake Balaton one year.
Good morning. It's great that you educate all of us with facts and insights about HU football and your club. We often have to do similar to "ignorant" outsiders, because we are obsessive about our club, as you are, and we all recognise you as 'one of us" a proper fan who goes away games.
But when football professionals in the UK (as opposed to fans) question whether moving to the NB1 is a career move for Dobbo they are looking at it in a global context. HU is very much like CZ; population about 10mill, ex communist country in Central Europe with a football pedigree (actually similar traditional playing style - the Vienna school - according to some). What you wrote about the recent improvement in HU, is similar to what I see here in CZ, with the exception that politicians here have not been involved, thankfully. But these two leagues struggle, not least because the best players will always be quickly lured away to the bigger Euro leagues.
The average attendance in NB1 was the best since 2011/12. It was 3,539. You mention Puskas Academy, one place behind your lot in the table. Isn't it fair to describe this club as basically completely artificial, playing in a village with a population of 1,500 - that just happens to be Orban's home village? Despite their success Puskas Academy saw the lowest attendance in the last year, recorded as exactly 800.
Dobbo has regularly played at the Valley in front of 15,000 plus. He captained us at Old Trafford in front of 60,000. I'm not sure of the average in L1 but it's more than 3,500, for sure. In May 2019 we reached the L1 playoffs. My neighbour, a big Sparta Prague fan, loved my enthusiasm and wondered if he could come with me, but I could see his scepticism. He had heard that in the semi-final home leg we had sold out th Valley (25,500). But Wembley, he didn't believe we could f it. When we started the journey across London to get there, and the trains were awash with Charlton fans, he started to wonder. When the teams came out, and Wembley was full, he finally had to accept it. There were 78,000 fans in there for a Third Division game. And it was not just us and Sunderland. It is the same each season for that game
This is far from the end of the argument either - but I have got to go out so I'll stop here. I'm just putting a different context on the "opportunity" awaiting Dobbo.
It's not like there's any connections (that i can see), like an English manager or coach there who'd previously worked with him. It's not a league renowned for having many English players there either. And if he wasn't scouted then it would also seem a pretty random club for the agent of a league one English club to contact.
Does anyone with inside info (no not you Ronnie) know how this all came about?