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George Dobson - Gone to Wrexham p136, farewell message p142

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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,312
    Davo55 said:
    Just when the Charlton hierarchy seem to be getting things right (January window, Jones and Hart appointments) they manage to fuck this one up very, very badly. Not quite in the same league as Duchatelet/Meire ditching Yann, but in the same ball park. Idiots. 
    Not even slightly close 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,442
    Davo55 said:
    Just when the Charlton hierarchy seem to be getting things right (January window, Jones and Hart appointments) they manage to fuck this one up very, very badly. Not quite in the same league as Duchatelet/Meire ditching Yann, but in the same ball park. Idiots. 
    Where did they get this right? 

    We sold CBT, Fraser and now potentially Dobson. And have a bunch of 'maybe goods' instead. While we drop closer to League Two. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,966
    IanC1960 said:
    fenaddick said:
    Well Dobbo has gone... absolutely gutted and disgusted with the way he has been treated by 1 person in particular. The truth will come out in the coming days. But I have been allowed to post this from the family of George in case anyone was wondering.

    Andy Scott you need to go.
    Just been speaking to someone who knows the family. 
    It's true, Scott has effectively forced Dobbo out. 
    He did sign a pre contract and he's definitely off to Hungary. 
    This is the key bit for me. If he's already indicated he wants to go in the summer then I can understand why the club want to make some money from him. The hope is that we can start building for next season after a couple of wins. In that case we'd basically be paying Dobbo to sit on the bench. Dobson would obviously still give 100% but that doesn't help Jones next season
    He did not want to go, he loves the club, all Andy Scotts doing
    He didn't have to sign a pre contract though, he could have waited
  • Talal said:
    Bit confused as to why he's picked Hungary though. He'd easily get another league one gig when he's a free agent and then wouldn't have to move his family so far. Just think it's a strange choice. 
    Maybe he is not as rated outside of Charlton as much as we think, or alternatively I guess he’s been offered a life changing sum of money. 

    Though his dad did say it’s not about the money, so who knows. Does he have family in Hungary?
  • Bilko
    Bilko Posts: 766
    If all the rumours are true, it’s a disgrace how he has been treated.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,966
    fenaddick said:
    IanC1960 said:
    fenaddick said:
    Well Dobbo has gone... absolutely gutted and disgusted with the way he has been treated by 1 person in particular. The truth will come out in the coming days. But I have been allowed to post this from the family of George in case anyone was wondering.

    Andy Scott you need to go.
    Just been speaking to someone who knows the family. 
    It's true, Scott has effectively forced Dobbo out. 
    He did sign a pre contract and he's definitely off to Hungary. 
    This is the key bit for me. If he's already indicated he wants to go in the summer then I can understand why the club want to make some money from him. The hope is that we can start building for next season after a couple of wins. In that case we'd basically be paying Dobbo to sit on the bench. Dobson would obviously still give 100% but that doesn't help Jones next season
    He did not want to go, he loves the club, all Andy Scotts doing
    He didn't have to sign a pre contract though, he could have waited
    I'm not delighted about it and not trying to defend the owners/Scott at all but no one forced Dobbo to sign that piece of paper
  • fenaddick said:
    IanC1960 said:
    fenaddick said:
    Well Dobbo has gone... absolutely gutted and disgusted with the way he has been treated by 1 person in particular. The truth will come out in the coming days. But I have been allowed to post this from the family of George in case anyone was wondering.

    Andy Scott you need to go.
    Just been speaking to someone who knows the family. 
    It's true, Scott has effectively forced Dobbo out. 
    He did sign a pre contract and he's definitely off to Hungary. 
    This is the key bit for me. If he's already indicated he wants to go in the summer then I can understand why the club want to make some money from him. The hope is that we can start building for next season after a couple of wins. In that case we'd basically be paying Dobbo to sit on the bench. Dobson would obviously still give 100% but that doesn't help Jones next season
    He did not want to go, he loves the club, all Andy Scotts doing
    He didn't have to sign a pre contract though, he could have waited
    He never signed a pre-Contract, we sold him
  • The deal is done between the clubs.
  • Scott hasn't forced Dobson out NOW, that's nonsense. If Dobbo wants to go to Hungary now then that's his decision, but we're entitled to offer him a contract for NEXT season, and he's entitled to reject it. Then see if he can get something better in the summer.
  • Yes, we are Charlton Athletic and not Dobson and CBT FC. 

    However, we are closer to the drop with both of them leaving. Another masterstroke from our recruitment team. Brainless. 
    If we end up finishing comfortably safe, will you roll back on this comment or double down like you usually do?
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    edited February 2024
    IanC1960 said:
    fenaddick said:
    IanC1960 said:
    fenaddick said:
    Well Dobbo has gone... absolutely gutted and disgusted with the way he has been treated by 1 person in particular. The truth will come out in the coming days. But I have been allowed to post this from the family of George in case anyone was wondering.

    Andy Scott you need to go.
    Just been speaking to someone who knows the family. 
    It's true, Scott has effectively forced Dobbo out. 
    He did sign a pre contract and he's definitely off to Hungary. 
    This is the key bit for me. If he's already indicated he wants to go in the summer then I can understand why the club want to make some money from him. The hope is that we can start building for next season after a couple of wins. In that case we'd basically be paying Dobbo to sit on the bench. Dobson would obviously still give 100% but that doesn't help Jones next season
    He did not want to go, he loves the club, all Andy Scotts doing
    He didn't have to sign a pre contract though, he could have waited
    He never signed a pre-Contract, we sold him
    Dobson still had the option to reject the move to Hungary though...

    We can agree as many deals as we want, but the player doesnt have to leave
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,480
    edited February 2024
    Talal said:
    Bit confused as to why he's picked Hungary though. He'd easily get another league one gig when he's a free agent and then wouldn't have to move his family so far. Just think it's a strange choice. 
    If the rumours right that he's only gonna be on £40k a year, he could've got that on the council
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,966
    IanC1960 said:
    fenaddick said:
    IanC1960 said:
    fenaddick said:
    Well Dobbo has gone... absolutely gutted and disgusted with the way he has been treated by 1 person in particular. The truth will come out in the coming days. But I have been allowed to post this from the family of George in case anyone was wondering.

    Andy Scott you need to go.
    Just been speaking to someone who knows the family. 
    It's true, Scott has effectively forced Dobbo out. 
    He did sign a pre contract and he's definitely off to Hungary. 
    This is the key bit for me. If he's already indicated he wants to go in the summer then I can understand why the club want to make some money from him. The hope is that we can start building for next season after a couple of wins. In that case we'd basically be paying Dobbo to sit on the bench. Dobson would obviously still give 100% but that doesn't help Jones next season
    He did not want to go, he loves the club, all Andy Scotts doing
    He didn't have to sign a pre contract though, he could have waited
    He never signed a pre-Contract, we sold him
    Some people are saying he did, some are saying he didn't. Can only comment on what is currently unconfirmed speculation
  • Scott hasn't forced Dobson out NOW, that's nonsense. If Dobbo wants to go to Hungary now then that's his decision, but we're entitled to offer him a contract for NEXT season, and he's entitled to reject it. Then see if he can get something better in the summer.
    You have not got a clue
  • Two best players sold in the January window while under the threat of relegation (if true). 

    What a calamity. 
    You do realise that they refused to sign contracts?
  • real shame if he is going and we haven't given him a good enough contract to stay. Probably our best best player with his consistency. gonna miss him as we have no one else I can think of who will do that role as effectively. 
  • fenaddick said:
    So let me get this correct. George has left the building which can only mean Hungary ?
    Well it can't be a UK club
    Well yes hence Hungary. Means we’ve sold him for a fee then.
  • IanC1960 said:
    Scott hasn't forced Dobson out NOW, that's nonsense. If Dobbo wants to go to Hungary now then that's his decision, but we're entitled to offer him a contract for NEXT season, and he's entitled to reject it. Then see if he can get something better in the summer.
    You have not got a clue
    Dobson could have rejected the Charlton contract offer, waited until the summer and signed a deal somewhere else then.

    Nobody can force him to go to Hungary NOW.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I am very pissed off with this if it's true.
    Like we, the majority of fans are blind or something?

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  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,238
    So we offered contracts to CBT and Dobson, both didn't sign them, so we've cashed in on them instead and that's a bad thing? 

    Should the club offer over the top wages to them just to keep them, despite them not actually being worth it? 

    I think people's judgement on things like this are clouded by who the player is and how much they like/dislike the current owners and management 
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 50,974
    Good luck Dobbo, you served us well, sometimes doing more than the rest of the team. Hopefully we will still avoid relegation without you
  • Brownie12
    Brownie12 Posts: 1,525
    sam3110 said:
    So we offered contracts to CBT and Dobson, both didn't sign them, so we've cashed in on them instead and that's a bad thing? 

    Should the club offer over the top wages to them just to keep them, despite them not actually being worth it? 

    I think people's judgement on things like this are clouded by who the player is and how much they like/dislike the current owners and management 
    100% this. Also worth remembering that these are players that have been part of a team that have seen us drop to a relegation scrap in league 1…it can be argued that we may have been worse off without them. Well now we will see. 

    Ultimately neither of them wanted to sign a new deal on the offered terms. They move on and we move on. 
  • For what it’s worth, I think losing Dobbo is madness as he’s comfortably been one of our best players the past few years and will cost money to replace. I also think that relatively speaking, 4k is fine for a good league 1 player and our captain.

    I also think that having a midfield anchor in the team is important and that every team can do with one. For league 1, you won’t get much better tbh. 
  • A player like Barry Bannan, who will sit and dictate play from deep, is pie in the sky and rare for league 1. Only my opinion of course but I think keeping Dobbo was important (more so than CBT imo)
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,966
    A player like Barry Bannan, who will sit and dictate play from deep, is pie in the sky and rare for league 1. Only my opinion of course but I think keeping Dobbo was important (more so than CBT imo)
    Think the hope is Coventry will be that player
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    Hope Dobson enjoys his next venture, and is successful wherever he ends up... Certainly appreciate everything he's done for the club - I personally don't think we were at a loss without him against Derby

    Charlton is bigger than two individuals... Lets not forget that

    We're not Blackett-Taylor or Dobson Football Club the last time I checked!!
    No but we might be in league 2 without them
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    edited February 2024
    A player like Barry Bannan, who will sit and dictate play from deep, is pie in the sky and rare for league 1. Only my opinion of course but I think keeping Dobbo was important (more so than CBT imo)
    Ideally thats what we've signed Conor Coventry to do...Terry Taylor too
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,494
    mrbligh said:
    Disgraceful. Andy Scott so far has signed a whole heap of duds and let our two best players go. Genius 
    Let them go ? CBT refused to play because he wanted a north back up north .. Dobson was not about money he wanted a flat 3 year deal club righty so offered 2 with option 
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,494
    Bilko said:
    If all the rumours are true, it’s a disgrace how he has been treated.
    Once again the big word there is RUMOUR again