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George Dobson - Gone to Wrexham p136, farewell message p142

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  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 1,975
    Will post more after the game on this. Scott labelled George as an average league 1 player ans can only see him as a squad player going forward at Charlton. Doesn't believe he is a player to get us promoted. 

    Only offered a small increase on his current wage. George wanted to stay. It is not about the money and that is why his father has allowed us to post this because he doesn't want fans thinking his boy is leaving for money. 

    George wanted to be in and around the wage of most of the players. Tennai Watson is on around 1k more than George for example. 

    The final insult was making him train with the u23s last 2 days. He has been desperate to move him on last couple of months. Obviously I am biased and get on well with George and his father but thought it best I share with you all 👍🏻
    Why have you posted this today?
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Sad to hear and read. 
  • cafc4life
    cafc4life Posts: 4,632
    Training with the 21s? Fucking hell that does seem to be a real shambles if so. 
  • redbuttle said:
    Will post more after the game on this. Scott labelled George as an average league 1 player ans can only see him as a squad player going forward at Charlton. Doesn't believe he is a player to get us promoted. 

    Only offered a small increase on his current wage. George wanted to stay. It is not about the money and that is why his father has allowed us to post this because he doesn't want fans thinking his boy is leaving for money. 

    George wanted to be in and around the wage of most of the players. Tennai Watson is on around 1k more than George for example. 

    The final insult was making him train with the u23s last 2 days. He has been desperate to move him on last couple of months. Obviously I am biased and get on well with George and his father but thought it best I share with you all 👍🏻
    Why have you posted this today?
    Because he has gone mate and was asked to put it out there that's all. 
  • IanC1960
    IanC1960 Posts: 16
    edited February 2024
    Well Dobbo has gone... absolutely gutted and disgusted with the way he has been treated by 1 person in particular. The truth will come out in the coming days. But I have been allowed to post this from the family of George in case anyone was wondering.

    Andy Scott you need to go.
    If he wanted to stay he would sign the contract offer. If it’s about the money, good luck to him in Hungary or wherever he ends up.

    He did not want to go, he never got offered what he wanted, he got offered only 500 extra a week on a two year deal with 1 year option, taking him to 4k a week, all lies from Andy Scott.
    This source is from the horses mouth.
    He was being forced and train and play with the U23
    so our best player for the last three years has been fucked off by Andy Scott
  • At the end of the day George is gutted. Loved the club, young family and wanted to stay but has been pushed out by 1 man who don't rate him. 

    As I say I'm sure you will all hear more in coming days.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,363
    Well Dobbo has gone... absolutely gutted and disgusted with the way he has been treated by 1 person in particular. The truth will come out in the coming days. But I have been allowed to post this from the family of George in case anyone was wondering.

    Andy Scott you need to go.
    If he wanted to stay he would sign the contract offer. If it’s about the money, good luck to him in Hungary or wherever he ends up.
    Why sign now? He won’t want to play in L2 next season or even L1 if Jones doesn’t rate him. He might as well wait until he knows where he stands with those things and then compare what’s on offer here to any other interest he has.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    edited February 2024
    Will post more after the game on this. Scott labelled George as an average league 1 player ans can only see him as a squad player going forward at Charlton. Doesn't believe he is a player to get us promoted. 

    Only offered a small increase on his current wage. George wanted to stay. It is not about the money and that is why his father has allowed us to post this because he doesn't want fans thinking his boy is leaving for money. 

    George wanted to be in and around the wage of most of the players. Tennai Watson is on around 1k more than George for example. 

    The final insult was making him train with the u23s last 2 days. He has been desperate to move him on last couple of months. Obviously I am biased and get on well with George and his father but thought it best I share with you all 👍🏻
    Surely Jones would have been to one the make him train with the U23s, and not Scott, and presumably he did that because George is going so not part of first team plans anymore which is fair enough.

    It’s really not mistreatment to be offered a contract which he does not think he is worth. Thats just football. Though I’m sure will cause lots of debate on here if he was worth more or not. 

    Again if there has been broken promises, lies and deceit - that’s different, and should rightfully be called out if it happened.

    Otherwise at the end of the day, he has moved for money, whatever his dad says. If they were confident he could get a decent gig, on better money than we offered, when his contract ran out in 6 months. Then he would have stayed. 
  • This is in no way a good bit of business no matter how it's spun or how much cognitive dissonance and head in the sand is applied.

    Our most committed and consistent performer.  If we were having a summer clear out preparing for a Championship top 6 push then I could understand it but we are not.  Dobson and CBT made the team and squad far stronger than it is now.  Weaker for letting the 2 of them go and whoever has decided on this has gambled and is a fucking clown if it costs us.

    Jesus wept, can we not have one week of unfettered optimism at this circus before another grenade is dropped in the tent.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,972
    Well Dobbo has gone... absolutely gutted and disgusted with the way he has been treated by 1 person in particular. The truth will come out in the coming days. But I have been allowed to post this from the family of George in case anyone was wondering.

    Andy Scott you need to go.
    Just been speaking to someone who knows the family. 
    It's true, Scott has effectively forced Dobbo out. 
    He did sign a pre contract and he's definitely off to Hungary. 
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  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,233
    Sorry I might be in the minority here but if he was on 3.5k a week and we've offered him 4k a week, despite the fact that apparently our director of football "doesn't want him", then that doesn't add up to me.


    If he didn't want him at all he wouldn't have been offered anything.


    If Dobson thinks he's worth much more than 4k a week, then sorry to say, he's not. 

    It would be a shitty end to his time here, but let's not overinflate his worth just because he's been less shit than most of the squad.
  • Will be interesting what Curbs and Brown have to say on this matter (within the limitations of what they can on the club payroll)
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,479
    Rumour he's gone
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,664
    edited February 2024
    Will post more after the game on this. Scott labelled George as an average league 1 player ans can only see him as a squad player going forward at Charlton. Doesn't believe he is a player to get us promoted. 

    Only offered a small increase on his current wage. George wanted to stay. It is not about the money and that is why his father has allowed us to post this because he doesn't want fans thinking his boy is leaving for money. 

    George wanted to be in and around the wage of most of the players. Tennai Watson is on around 1k more than George for example. 

    The final insult was making him train with the u23s last 2 days. He has been desperate to move him on last couple of months. Obviously I am biased and get on well with George and his father but thought it best I share with you all 👍🏻
    He's a decent player and has a brilliant work ethic, but I'm not sure he's good enough for the Championship, if he was, surely he would be moving up a division and not off to some random club in Hungary. Remember Semedo, decent player for us but we upgraded and moved on. However, letting him go in a relegation battle is foolish.
  • Rumour Gribbo likes to reuse the same joke multiple times. 
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Scott is a pleb. Just look at his approach while at Notts Forest.
  • Will post more after the game on this. Scott labelled George as an average league 1 player ans can only see him as a squad player going forward at Charlton. Doesn't believe he is a player to get us promoted. 

    Only offered a small increase on his current wage. George wanted to stay. It is not about the money and that is why his father has allowed us to post this because he doesn't want fans thinking his boy is leaving for money. 

    George wanted to be in and around the wage of most of the players. Tennai Watson is on around 1k more than George for example. 

    The final insult was making him train with the u23s last 2 days. He has been desperate to move him on last couple of months. Obviously I am biased and get on well with George and his father but thought it best I share with you all 👍🏻
    Surely Jones would have been to one the make him train with the U23s, and not Scott, and presumably he did that because George is going so not part of first team plans anymore which is fair enough.

    It’s really not mistreatment to be offered a contract which he does not think he is worth. Thats just football. Though I’m sure will cause lots of debate on here if he was worth more or not. 

    Again if there has been broken promises, lies and deceit - that’s different, and should rightfully be called out if it happened.

    Otherwise at the end of the day, he has moved for money, whatever his dad says. If they were confident he could get a decent gig, on better money than we offered, when his contract ran out in 6 months. Then he would have stayed. 
    No, it was Scott that made that decision regarding U23’s
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,958
    Well Dobbo has gone... absolutely gutted and disgusted with the way he has been treated by 1 person in particular. The truth will come out in the coming days. But I have been allowed to post this from the family of George in case anyone was wondering.

    Andy Scott you need to go.
    Just been speaking to someone who knows the family. 
    It's true, Scott has effectively forced Dobbo out. 
    He did sign a pre contract and he's definitely off to Hungary. 
    This is the key bit for me. If he's already indicated he wants to go in the summer then I can understand why the club want to make some money from him. The hope is that we can start building for next season after a couple of wins. In that case we'd basically be paying Dobbo to sit on the bench. Dobson would obviously still give 100% but that doesn't help Jones next season
  • cafc4life
    cafc4life Posts: 4,632
    Rumour Gribbo likes to reuse the same joke multiple times. 
    Which is about as funny as stubbing your toe
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    edited February 2024
    Look on the brightside...

    If Dobson is training with the U23s, that should be great experience for the kids coming through - Having a Senior member of the squad working with them.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,479
    Rumour Gribbo likes to reuse the same joke multiple times. 
    That ain't no rumour mate
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,312
    Look on the brightside...

    If Dobson is training with the U23s, that should be great experience for the kids coming through - Having a Senior member of the squad working with them.
    This might already be a post of the year contender 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,958
    In reality the problem started about 12 months ago, there's no way we should be letting any important player enter the last 12 months of their deal without a solid offer on the table. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,363
    Will post more after the game on this. Scott labelled George as an average league 1 player ans can only see him as a squad player going forward at Charlton. Doesn't believe he is a player to get us promoted. 

    Only offered a small increase on his current wage. George wanted to stay. It is not about the money and that is why his father has allowed us to post this because he doesn't want fans thinking his boy is leaving for money. 

    George wanted to be in and around the wage of most of the players. Tennai Watson is on around 1k more than George for example. 

    The final insult was making him train with the u23s last 2 days. He has been desperate to move him on last couple of months. Obviously I am biased and get on well with George and his father but thought it best I share with you all 👍🏻
    He's a decent player and has a brilliant work ethic, but I'm not sure he's good enough for the Championship, if he was, surely he would be moving up a division and not off to some random club in Hungary. Remember Semedo, decent player for us but we upgraded and moved on.
    True about Semedo, we moved on and replaced him with players better suited, but he also got promoted to the Championship and played there for 4 or 5 years.

    Like Semedo, Dobson could play at that level in the right team, but probably wouldn’t be a regular either. I see him as the sort of player who wants to be at a club where he’s a regular starter.

    Taylor and Coventry both looked like alternatives and future replacements for Dobson to me so I’m not surprised to read he’s expected to move on.
  • IanC1960 said:
    Will post more after the game on this. Scott labelled George as an average league 1 player ans can only see him as a squad player going forward at Charlton. Doesn't believe he is a player to get us promoted. 

    Only offered a small increase on his current wage. George wanted to stay. It is not about the money and that is why his father has allowed us to post this because he doesn't want fans thinking his boy is leaving for money. 

    George wanted to be in and around the wage of most of the players. Tennai Watson is on around 1k more than George for example. 

    The final insult was making him train with the u23s last 2 days. He has been desperate to move him on last couple of months. Obviously I am biased and get on well with George and his father but thought it best I share with you all 👍🏻
    Surely Jones would have been to one the make him train with the U23s, and not Scott, and presumably he did that because George is going so not part of first team plans anymore which is fair enough.

    It’s really not mistreatment to be offered a contract which he does not think he is worth. Thats just football. Though I’m sure will cause lots of debate on here if he was worth more or not. 

    Again if there has been broken promises, lies and deceit - that’s different, and should rightfully be called out if it happened.

    Otherwise at the end of the day, he has moved for money, whatever his dad says. If they were confident he could get a decent gig, on better money than we offered, when his contract ran out in 6 months. Then he would have stayed. 
    No, it was Scott that made that decision regarding U23’s
    If that’s true then that already undermines Jones and his authority and I don’t like it. 
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,484
    Bit confused as to why he's picked Hungary though. He'd easily get another league one gig when he's a free agent and then wouldn't have to move his family so far. Just think it's a strange choice. 
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    Just when the Charlton hierarchy seem to be getting things right (January window, Jones and Hart appointments) they manage to fuck this one up very, very badly. Not quite in the same league as Duchatelet/Meire ditching Yann, but in the same ball park. Idiots. 
  • fenaddick said:
    Well Dobbo has gone... absolutely gutted and disgusted with the way he has been treated by 1 person in particular. The truth will come out in the coming days. But I have been allowed to post this from the family of George in case anyone was wondering.

    Andy Scott you need to go.
    Just been speaking to someone who knows the family. 
    It's true, Scott has effectively forced Dobbo out. 
    He did sign a pre contract and he's definitely off to Hungary. 
    This is the key bit for me. If he's already indicated he wants to go in the summer then I can understand why the club want to make some money from him. The hope is that we can start building for next season after a couple of wins. In that case we'd basically be paying Dobbo to sit on the bench. Dobson would obviously still give 100% but that doesn't help Jones next season
    He did not want to go, he loves the club, all Andy Scotts doing
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,442
    Yes, we are Charlton Athletic and not Dobson and CBT FC. 

    However, we are closer to the drop with both of them leaving. Another masterstroke from our recruitment team. Brainless.