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Flemings Press conference
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Shut up with your nonsense.DaisyEdwards said:Blah, blah blah. We have heard it all before. Next week someone else will be spouting the same old. Nothing can change until the club fundamentally changes from top to bottom.
Unbelievable that there are so many happy clappy Charlton supporters who fall for it every time. Wake up. We are sleep walking into oblivion and it will be your fault.
People are just validating that the man is talking sense and we're not used to hearing honesty from a head coach/manager outside of Bowyer and Powell since Curbs. There's otherwise been loads of bullshit from manager after manager every damn press conference.
Maybe go and have a lay down. Blaming other fans for where the club is pathetic, snake-like behaviour.
Oblivion FFS.16 -
Tbf he's given one bog standard interview and you're talking about him in the same breath as our greatest modern era managers.Dazzler21 said:
Shut up with your nonsense.DaisyEdwards said:Blah, blah blah. We have heard it all before. Next week someone else will be spouting the same old. Nothing can change until the club fundamentally changes from top to bottom.
Unbelievable that there are so many happy clappy Charlton supporters who fall for it every time. Wake up. We are sleep walking into oblivion and it will be your fault.
People are just validating that the man is talking sense and we're not used to hearing honesty from a head coach/manager outside of Bowyer and Powell since Curbs. There's otherwise been loads of bullshit from manager after manager every damn press conference.
Maybe go and have a lay down. Blaming other fans for where the club is pathetic, snake-like behaviour.
Oblivion FFS.
Sections of this fanbase seem to get constantly dazzled by a competent interview. Same thing happens any time Scott does speaks on camera.6 -
TBF there's not much competition for greatest modern era managers and before Powell and Bow, Parkinson was probably the next to speak sense, then you go back to Curbs... So yeah after one interview, it had more of the feel of those than it did of Robinson or Appleton or Fraeye or Luzon or Dowie...
I'm not comparing the man's ability to manage to any of them!
People are just saying it's refreshing.
The man even says it's all words and the proof will be there on the pitch on Saturday. If that goes wrong, then cynicism can creep in, but being he's not the manager, surely he gets some kind of slack, just as Pearcey alone would have.2 -
As I said in the other thread, massive red flag for me within 5 mins claiming we aren't in a relegation fight0
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The club is desperately pushing Fleming and Pearce on Twitter today1
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I like him, I hope he does well3
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I'm not on x/twitter any clues ? thanksThe Red Robin said:The club is desperately pushing Fleming and Pearce on Twitter today0 -
No issue with this providing they're not pushing them as perm options.The Red Robin said:The club is desperately pushing Fleming and Pearce on Twitter today
Cos that'd be a fucking joke.7 -
The problem is he has the same players, little time and at this level some decent opposition coming up.0
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Nah, just part of the game. He's got to try and turn things around, the instant he starts talking about "the R word" there's going to be people jumping on that saying he thinks we're doomed or that he's given up already etc.sam3110 said:As I said in the other thread, massive red flag for me within 5 mins claiming we aren't in a relegation fight
Which is a load of shit I'm sure but he'd be a fool to start talking about relegation in January. He almost certainly knows it is worryingly possible but gains nothing by saying so.6 -
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Good interview thought he came across really well refreshing to hear him talk sense no hyperbole1
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A mate of mine was a phisyo at the scum (Palace) and he said to me he will be loved by the players and is a good assistant. Not sure he’s ready to be the manager yet.0
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He said words are 'beautiful' but it's actions that count.
So let's see what happens at Blackpool.3 -
First Charlton manager press conference I have watched for weeks and relieved I feel. Came over well and actually looking forward to Saturday now. Good luck Curtis and Jason. UTA.2
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Softly spoken Irish accent has won a load over, which is a blessed relief to whiny Manc, but come on, he’s unlikely to be the answer, smacks me as a great number 2 to a tough number one5
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Splitting hairs maybe but what he actually said was ‘No I don’t think we are, because we’re not in a relegation slot’ so strictly speaking he was correct. He then went on to say he’d rather be 4 points above than in it, and emphasised we need to start keeping clean sheets first and foremost.sam3110 said:As I said in the other thread, massive red flag for me within 5 mins claiming we weren't in a relegation fight
I don’t blame him for saying that because he doesn’t want to give the media the opportunity to pile on with ‘Caretaker manager admits his team are in relegation scrap’ but deep down he knows that we are and will call on his past experience of working under some good managers, Brian Robson, Terry Venables, Tony Pulis and Nigel Pearson to try and get us up the table.
He’s had the players together and no doubt tried to create some sort of siege mentality of us against the the rest of the world. With some tough fixtures coming up to relish the challenge, go out there, fight for one another and ruffle some feathers.
We shall see if he’s had an impact with that much needed bounce at Blackpool on Saturday.
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If at all, fans are lowest in order of who's to blame for the Club's demise. What would you have us do? Post on here that it's the same old and we're not happy clappy. That going to save us from oblivion is it?DaisyEdwards said:Blah, blah blah. We have heard it all before. Next week someone else will be spouting the same old. Nothing can change until the club fundamentally changes from top to bottom.
Unbelievable that there are so many happy clappy Charlton supporters who fall for it every time. Wake up. We are sleep walking into oblivion and it will be your fault.
Well I'm game and prepared to give it a try to see if it makes a difference . "It's the same old and I'm not happy clappy." There. Done my bit. Hope it helps us move onwards and upwards. Won't be my fault if we don't.
I'm neither abjectly miserable or deliriously happy having listened to that Press Conference. Good luck to the caretaker and to our boys on Saturday.0 -
Got to keep morale up hasn't he? I thought his answer was a good one. It's basically still well within our hands. If the players perform to their apparent ability we should sail clear.sam3110 said:As I said in the other thread, massive red flag for me within 5 mins claiming we aren't in a relegation fight
I know it's early ,but on very first impressions I think I'd have a go at running through a wall for him. Appleton could poke it. And I thought that from day one as well.1 -
Why not. Lennie started off as a caretaker and went on to be a successDazzler21 said:
No issue with this providing they're not pushing them as perm options.The Red Robin said:The club is desperately pushing Fleming and Pearce on Twitter today
Cos that'd be a fucking joke.7 -
He’s not been immersed in the Charlton universe like us on a forum dedicated to CAFC.Braziliance said:Speaks well, charming Irish accent, very modest and self-aware.
No issues with him and Pearce until we get the main man for the job in.
I will say however though, I think he isn't quite telling the truth about Appletons situation, he must have known Appleton was living life on the edge, so I don't believe him in saying it was a surprise.
Good luck though Fleming.
Just two weeks ago was that online fans meeting where Rodwell said unequivocally that Appleton wasn’t in danger of losing his job.Fleming said that when he took the job it was acknowledged that we’re on a bad run but we’ll get a couple of results and improve from there.I genuinely believe that’s what the SMT were thinking at the time: get some reinforcements in, win a few games and we’ll be safe.1 -
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Back to basics.....When I coached kids football....the first thing I taught them was how to defend....if you dont concede you dont lose the game, its bloody simple.7
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But we’ve only just signed him!eastterrace6168 said:Like the sound of Curtis...he was a refreshing voice in the video with serious stuff sprinkled with a bit of light humour, as he said, "he is a track suited manager, that's what you will see..as he said, win a few games and he will get the Armani out"...😉
Good luck Curtis for tomorrow and beyond, now the team just need to perform...👍1 -
Forgive me AC, but I think it’s less about getting the players caring, as it is about getting the players confident, fired up and playing to a plan. Under Appleton they looked nervous and unsure of their roles.Athletico Charlton said:Each time we get a new manager people praise the first press conference, same happened with MA so it is just words and it all comes down to the games.
I did think what he said about Bryan Robson was telling though... "He wasn’t a brilliant coach, but what a man - what a man. You’d go to war for him..."
As a fan it's hard to tell but if Appleton was as cold with the players as he was the fans he missed the importance of this. Fleming seems the sort who will at least get the effort up and the players caring again and if he can do that the talent is most definitely there imo.3 -
Happy Clappy? Bloody hell, just because some people, myself included, enjoyed his refreshing interview, it does not make me or others 'Happy Clappy '.DaisyEdwards said:Blah, blah blah. We have heard it all before. Next week someone else will be spouting the same old. Nothing can change until the club fundamentally changes from top to bottom.
Unbelievable that there are so many happy clappy Charlton supporters who fall for it every time. Wake up. We are sleep walking into oblivion and it will be your fault.
CF was honest, said we need to keep clean sheets, and, in his opinion, we have the players with enough quality to start winning games.
What did you want him to say "sorry were fucked!"
Just for the record, I don't think he should be made 'Manager/Head Coach' (unless he goes on an extraordinary run), but I wish him and Pearce all the best for the next few matches, because we need points!
This also gives our, so far, failing SMT to get in the right person as manager, be that Jones, Duff, Eustace or whomever!
Another wrong full time appointment and we are 'fucked', but for now with Fleming/Pearce in charge, I'll support them, like I've supported every manager in the last 63 yrs for their first few games! (Except Fraye!)
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Curtis was at Boro when Lennie was in charge and took them to the Prem in 1992. So a - somewhat tenuous- Charlton connection.
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spoke really well, not sure what else people are expecting from him, he'll have had 2 days with the players to hopefully work on the back 4....IF we keep a clean sheet Saturday then that'll be a great start3
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Well could instruct the back 4 to stick to their man, rather than the “zonal” marking we have been deploying. Their second goal, we had 7 players in our box, but the goal scorer was free.Elthamaddick said:spoke really well, not sure what else people are expecting from him, he'll have had 2 days with the players to hopefully work on the back 4....IF we keep a clean sheet Saturday then that'll be a great start3 -
I think you are seeing too much from one interview. He did a decent job of it and hopefully he will relax and sort out the fear in the players but I an going to judge that by the performances, not the interviews. If he starts us winning and playing well, surely he becomes a candidate unless we have Pep lined up! It is an if and everything is an if at the moment.ShootersHillGuru said:I can see why from that interview that CF is a very competent number two. Easy manner and confidence in himself is evident. He’s 55 though and thus far has always been with exceptions for caretaker roles been second in command. I get the suspicion that he’s very good at it. Whatever happens in terms of the final choice as number one I hope he remains but I don’t see him as a possible candidate.1
