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Is there a relationship between the Iraq situation and a reduction of pollution in London?Valiantphil said:
Don’t forget all those Weapons of Mass Destruction that the Government told us weee in Iraq.seth plum said:This report speaks to an improvement for children affected by pollution.
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Yes, they are both made up to suit the narrative.seth plum said:
Is there a relationship between the Iraq situation and a reduction of pollution in London?Valiantphil said:
Don’t forget all those Weapons of Mass Destruction that the Government told us weee in Iraq.seth plum said:This report speaks to an improvement for children affected by pollution.6 -
Oh. So there has been no reduction in air pollution in London in relation to the two stages of the ULEZ introduced so far?Valiantphil said:
Yes, they are both made up to suit the narrative.seth plum said:
Is there a relationship between the Iraq situation and a reduction of pollution in London?Valiantphil said:
Don’t forget all those Weapons of Mass Destruction that the Government told us weee in Iraq.seth plum said:This report speaks to an improvement for children affected by pollution.
The ultra low emissions zone has had not the slightest effect so far, and any person or scientific body that says otherwise is making it all up?
Have you got anything objective that will back that claim up?5 -
Valiantphil said:
Don’t forget all those Weapons of Mass Destruction that the Government told us weee in Iraq.seth plum said:This report speaks to an improvement for children affected by pollution.
incontinent WMD's thank god they were in Iraq!2 -
I didn’t think there was yet any data on the second stage?seth plum said:
Oh. So there has been no reduction in air pollution in London in relation to the two stages of the ULEZ introduced so far?Valiantphil said:
Yes, they are both made up to suit the narrative.seth plum said:
Is there a relationship between the Iraq situation and a reduction of pollution in London?Valiantphil said:
Don’t forget all those Weapons of Mass Destruction that the Government told us weee in Iraq.seth plum said:This report speaks to an improvement for children affected by pollution.
The ultra low emissions zone has had not the slightest effect so far, and any person or scientific body that says otherwise is making it all up?
Have you got anything objective that will back that claim up?Notwithstanding I would assume some improvement will be evidenced.0 -
Yes, I agree that there will be evidence of improvement.
If that happens it can be peer reviewed to assess how much improvement there has been.
It might even turn out to have reduced fatalities due to polluted air.0 -
The unknown will be how much it would have improved without the penalty fines.seth plum said:Yes, I agree that there will be evidence of improvement.
If that happens it can be peer reviewed to assess how much improvement there has been.
It might even turn out to have reduced fatalities due to polluted air.I’d like to see some analysis of how many cars registered to inner London addresses changed post the announcement of the expansion of ULEZ in comparison to change in car ownership normally AND how many of the non compliant vehicles still seen are registered outside of London or indeed abroad.I’m curious how much it hastened upgrading vehicles versus reduced volumes of cars versus impact on non residents.It’s a multitude of factors at play including the benefit of the inner London ULEZ already benefitting outer London.My instinct it was a sledge hammer to crack a nut and some detailed analysis will be interesting rather than just headlines.But yes there will be a valid argument to some degree pollution has improved and therefore beneficial.My concern is still the expense of the scheme may prove to be detrimental in total within a few years whilst council finances remain too tight for comfort.5 -
Some bellends have cut down all the traffic lights in Chislehurst because they have ULEZ cameras on them.
These people are nuts....7 -
So many accidents! I'm generally anti ULEZ but these idiots are not going to help their cause.Huskaris said:Some bellends have cut down all the traffic lights in Chislehurst because they have ULEZ cameras on them.
These people are nuts....
On a separate note, the traffic in Chislehurst has never flowed so well (as long as the crashed cars move out of the way!)1 - Sponsored links:
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Good news bad news then?SE10Addick said:
So many accidents! I'm generally anti ULEZ but these idiots are not going to help their cause.Huskaris said:Some bellends have cut down all the traffic lights in Chislehurst because they have ULEZ cameras on them.
These people are nuts....
On a separate note, the traffic in Chislehurst has never flowed so well (as long as the crashed cars move out of the way!)0 -
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Hopefully ULEZ is a move towards cleaner air.
Well done the authorities and especially Ella’s mother and her campaign.7 -
If only they had increased the charge this all could have been avoided.0
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It's wider spread than Chislehurst.Huskaris said:Some bellends have cut down all the traffic lights in Chislehurst because they have ULEZ cameras on them.
These people are nuts....
Also, Bickley, Grove Park, Downham, Locks Bottom, that I know of and probably more.0 -
We heard the explosion from Welling. Drove past the van in that video a few days later after the road had reopened and it was proper fucked. If that van hadn't been there and anyone had been in the path of the debris they would be dead. Whoever is responsible is an absolute moron and needs to be locked up.guinnessaddick said:13 -
They arrested a couple of men from miles away, 60 & 61 years old. They must be seriously unhinged, assuming they did it. At their age, if convicted they are never going to pay a congestion or ULEZ charge again in their lives. Causing explosions you normally quite righty have the keys thrown away.Rizzo said:
We heard the explosion from Welling. Drove past the van in that video a few days later after the road had reopened and it was proper fucked. If that van hadn't been there and anyone had been in the path of the debris they would be dead. Whoever is responsible is an absolute moron and needs to be locked up.guinnessaddick said:4 -
There's a bloke called Matt Hardy who pops up on my Insta feed every now and again (i don't follow him). He's an absolute tool, a cretin. He's obsessed with chopping down ulez cameras and generally smelling like a wet dog.0
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I have a non-ulez compliant Campervan. Having done some investigation looks like I can get a ulez compliant retrofit done for about £7k which would not be worth it although also fingers crossed may be able to get Transport for London to pay £6k of that through the scrappage scheme. Applying now.1
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There should be some legal repercussions for whoever 'radicalised' these scumbags too.charltonkeston said:
They arrested a couple of men from miles away, 60 & 61 years old. They must be seriously unhinged, assuming they did it. At their age, if convicted they are never going to pay a congestion or ULEZ charge again in their lives. Causing explosions you normally quite righty have the keys thrown away.Rizzo said:
We heard the explosion from Welling. Drove past the van in that video a few days later after the road had reopened and it was proper fucked. If that van hadn't been there and anyone had been in the path of the debris they would be dead. Whoever is responsible is an absolute moron and needs to be locked up.guinnessaddick said:
Loaded phrase or not, men in their early 60's don't suddenly decide, off their own back, to start making IED's and using them on our streets.9 - Sponsored links:
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There is a LOT of online nonsense about ULEZ, 15-minutes cities etc. Lots of misinformation which, as it circulates, gradually transmutes into 'facts' in the minds of the recipients.Bournemouth Addick said:
There should be some legal repercussions for whoever 'radicalised' these scumbags too.charltonkeston said:
They arrested a couple of men from miles away, 60 & 61 years old. They must be seriously unhinged, assuming they did it. At their age, if convicted they are never going to pay a congestion or ULEZ charge again in their lives. Causing explosions you normally quite righty have the keys thrown away.Rizzo said:
We heard the explosion from Welling. Drove past the van in that video a few days later after the road had reopened and it was proper fucked. If that van hadn't been there and anyone had been in the path of the debris they would be dead. Whoever is responsible is an absolute moron and needs to be locked up.guinnessaddick said:
Loaded phrase or not, men in their early 60's don't suddenly decide, off their own back, to start making IED's and using them on our streets.12 -
Very hard to prove but social media is full of radicalising material. Especially Twitter/x and Facebook.Bournemouth Addick said:
There should be some legal repercussions for whoever 'radicalised' these scumbags too.charltonkeston said:
They arrested a couple of men from miles away, 60 & 61 years old. They must be seriously unhinged, assuming they did it. At their age, if convicted they are never going to pay a congestion or ULEZ charge again in their lives. Causing explosions you normally quite righty have the keys thrown away.Rizzo said:
We heard the explosion from Welling. Drove past the van in that video a few days later after the road had reopened and it was proper fucked. If that van hadn't been there and anyone had been in the path of the debris they would be dead. Whoever is responsible is an absolute moron and needs to be locked up.guinnessaddick said:
Loaded phrase or not, men in their early 60's don't suddenly decide, off their own back, to start making IED's and using them on our streets.
Look at the comments on this.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/972110790038394/permalink/1476418362940965/0 -
We haven't seen any more MI (I don't believe) yet on fines issued/ income received (not just billed) - where the non compliant cars are registered , # of repeat offenders etc.
I think this analysis will be interesting to see the impact it is having whilst we must necessarily wait longer for any material change confirmed in air quality.0 -
I'd say they weren't very good at being urban terrorists, they got caught PDQ. So anyone radicalising wasn't very good at it or they they did this off their own planning, for the want of a better phrase. They've probably been angry at most things most of their lives and jumped on the bandwagon of hating anything and everything that Khan has passed the smallest of comments on. Its not hard to make bombs and plant them, its the level of sophistication that's the clever bit and I seriously doubt they are either clever or sophisticated.Bournemouth Addick said:
There should be some legal repercussions for whoever 'radicalised' these scumbags too.charltonkeston said:
They arrested a couple of men from miles away, 60 & 61 years old. They must be seriously unhinged, assuming they did it. At their age, if convicted they are never going to pay a congestion or ULEZ charge again in their lives. Causing explosions you normally quite righty have the keys thrown away.Rizzo said:
We heard the explosion from Welling. Drove past the van in that video a few days later after the road had reopened and it was proper fucked. If that van hadn't been there and anyone had been in the path of the debris they would be dead. Whoever is responsible is an absolute moron and needs to be locked up.guinnessaddick said:
Loaded phrase or not, men in their early 60's don't suddenly decide, off their own back, to start making IED's and using them on our streets.
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There is data I saw a while back about the take up of the scrappage scheme which showed people making the choices the ULEZ is there to incentivise.valleynick66 said:We haven't seen any more MI (I don't believe) yet on fines issued/ income received (not just billed) - where the non compliant cars are registered , # of repeat offenders etc.
I think this analysis will be interesting to see the impact it is having whilst we must necessarily wait longer for any material change confirmed in air quality.3 -
I remain nervous it wont be cash positive for very long - that's my interest - and in todays world of 'big data' I'm surprised MI isn't shared more frequentlycantersaddick said:
There is data I saw a while back about the take up of the scrappage scheme which showed people making the choices the ULEZ is there to incentivise.valleynick66 said:We haven't seen any more MI (I don't believe) yet on fines issued/ income received (not just billed) - where the non compliant cars are registered , # of repeat offenders etc.
I think this analysis will be interesting to see the impact it is having whilst we must necessarily wait longer for any material change confirmed in air quality.0 -
If anything, the lack of sophistication is the problem here. It was pure luck nobody was injured or killed when they planted a bomb on a public road and (almost certainly) had no control over its detonation.charltonkeston said:
I'd say they weren't very good at being urban terrorists, they got caught PDQ. So anyone radicalising wasn't very good at it or they they did this off their own planning, for the want of a better phrase. They've probably been angry at most things most of their lives and jumped on the bandwagon of hating anything and everything that Khan has passed the smallest of comments on. Its not hard to make bombs and plant them, its the level of sophistication that's the clever bit and I seriously doubt they are either clever or sophisticated.Bournemouth Addick said:
There should be some legal repercussions for whoever 'radicalised' these scumbags too.charltonkeston said:
They arrested a couple of men from miles away, 60 & 61 years old. They must be seriously unhinged, assuming they did it. At their age, if convicted they are never going to pay a congestion or ULEZ charge again in their lives. Causing explosions you normally quite righty have the keys thrown away.Rizzo said:
We heard the explosion from Welling. Drove past the van in that video a few days later after the road had reopened and it was proper fucked. If that van hadn't been there and anyone had been in the path of the debris they would be dead. Whoever is responsible is an absolute moron and needs to be locked up.guinnessaddick said:
Loaded phrase or not, men in their early 60's don't suddenly decide, off their own back, to start making IED's and using them on our streets.0 -
Uptake of the scrappage scheme make it more likely that it won't be cash positive.valleynick66 said:
I remain nervous it wont be cash positive for very long - that's my interest - and in todays world of 'big data' I'm surprised MI isn't shared more frequentlycantersaddick said:
There is data I saw a while back about the take up of the scrappage scheme which showed people making the choices the ULEZ is there to incentivise.valleynick66 said:We haven't seen any more MI (I don't believe) yet on fines issued/ income received (not just billed) - where the non compliant cars are registered , # of repeat offenders etc.
I think this analysis will be interesting to see the impact it is having whilst we must necessarily wait longer for any material change confirmed in air quality.
It's stated aims aren't around being cash positive but around air quality. That's what we should be measuring it against. If it loses money but improves air quality to safer levels then that's still a win in my view.8 -
Just driven past the junction of Court Road and Spur Road in Orpington.
Both ULEZ cameras lying in the road.
Looks like someone has taken an angle grinder to them.0 -
Those who destroy the cameras seem to believe that money is more important than the lives of the people, especially children.
I wonder if those camera activists hate the activity of the Just Stop Oil activists.6
