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Summer Transfer Rumours - Deadline Day p446

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  • edited August 2023
    Supposedly in the running for Cardiff City attacking midfielder Rubin Colwill on loan or possibly a permanent. In his final year of contract. Charlton, Bolton and Reading all registering interest for the Wales international.

    https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-charlton-athletic-bolton-wanderers-and-reading-make-moves-to-sign-cardiff-star-rubin-colwill/
    We probably are as O'Rourke is credible. 

    Had a look and a fair few Cardiff fans saying he's talented but never fit so can't string a run of games together. Sounds like a player for the future and won't be making an instant impact. Not sounding ungrateful but we don't need these types of players, we have enough fitness and injury issues as it is. Need players ready to play and make a mark in the squad. This lad sounds talented but not consistent enough, wages may be better spent elsewhere 

    On another note along with Alfie May and Terry Taylor, he's a player I've seen a lot of Plymouth fans say they want. So I'm not sure if Plymouth fans are overrating players or we are genuinely recruiting/scouting well..more so aimed at Terry Taylor and the potential signing of Rubin rather than Alf.
  • Luke freeman released by Luton.  
    Ticks a lot of (charlton life) boxes:

    Versatile.  
    Set piece specialist.
    Ex charlton.
    Dartford born. 

    Although, he’s not that tall..
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Freeman

    He spent two years at Charlton before being released "for being too small".

    Fails the Charlton Life height test though  :D

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Freeman

    He spent two years at Charlton before being released "for being too small".

    Fails the Charlton Life height test though  :D

    If this is true, I wouldn't blame him for not wanting to come back lmao
  • I think he's underrated if anything. We have a 6ft4, pacey and skillful young striker on our hands, who got 12 goals last year in an average league 1 team whilst still missing games through injury. His footwork and skill with the ball at his feet for someone of his height and build is remarkable. He's got good finishing ability and isn't your average big lump to shove up-front. Yet people still downplay him by saying he can't be our starting striker along with May? He'll get minimum 15 goals this year if he can stay injury free.
    To do what he did last season, ending up leading the line in his first season of senior football, for a pretty average team. To get 12 goals while missing games due to injury and when he was being eased in to men’s football is incredible. 

    Bolton have Adeboyejo and Charles and are probably the only side in the league that is in contention with the statement that we’ve got the best strike partnership in the league. I’d say our 2 are the better pair, but then their backup options are much better than ours which is our problem 
  • If this is true, I wouldn't blame him for not wanting to come back lmao
    Ffs…he was only 11 when he left for Gillingham.  I’d suggest he’d be more aggrieved for ending up there than being considered short! 

    Anyway, at 5’ 8” (according to wiki)…he’ll now tower over Jack Payne.
  • Chunes said:
    I have a bit of an issue with the word 'decent' being used to describe our first team players.

    For 'decent', I read 'mid-table L1 standard.'

    To get out of this league we need good/outstanding players. We've not had a CB like that since we last went up. 
    I dunno, I believe most of our players are 'decent/good' and a few have outstanding qualities - but to get out of this league, what you need is consistancy.
    And for a few reasons, we are not seeing that yet.

    It's consistant teams that get results ...... teams full of outstanding players often flatter to deceive.


  • fenaddick said:
    In isolation I agree but I think there’s a pattern of individual errors causing us goals. I rate Holden and think he’s doing a good job but lapses in concentration and how we react to them is something he needs to work with the team to eliminate surely 
    You really don't thing Holden would have already tried?

    Like us, he's seen experienced pros make schoolboy errors or just switch off standing there ballwatching.
    Holden must be pulling his hair out in frustration.


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  • Oggy Red said:
    I dunno, I believe most of our players are 'decent/good' and a few have outstanding qualities - but to get out of this league, what you need is consistancy.
    And for a few reasons, we are not seeing that yet.

    It's consistant teams that get results ...... teams full of outstanding players often flatter to deceive.


    For example...?
  • I think he's underrated if anything. We have a 6ft4, pacey and skillful young striker on our hands, who got 12 goals last year in an average league 1 team whilst still missing games through injury. His footwork and skill with the ball at his feet for someone of his height and build is remarkable. He's got good finishing ability and isn't your average big lump to shove up-front. Yet people still downplay him by saying he can't be our starting striker along with May? He'll get minimum 15 goals this year if he can stay injury free.
    I bet he does not, either keep free of injury or score 15 goals.
  • Chunes said:
    For example...?
    You've been watching games and players for a long time, Chunes.

    You know what I mean.


  • edited August 2023
    Oggy Red said:
    You've been watching games and players for a long time, Chunes.

    You know what I mean.


    I honestly don't. When I think of teams full of outstanding players, I think of Man City / Ipswich, both of whom have done well. 
  • Oggy Red said:
    You really don't thing Holden would have already tried?

    Like us, he's seen experienced pros make schoolboy errors or just switch off standing there ballwatching.
    Holden must be pulling his hair out in frustration.


    Of course he’s tried and feeling the same as us. On further reflection I think the back to back nature of games won’t have helped as hard to do anything on the training ground or build up any potential low confidence. Part of being a manager (in any walk of life) is to help people eradicate errors. Not saying he can’t do this or is more to blame than the players, just saying he can’t be absolved of all blame 
  • Chunes said:
    I honestly don't. When I think of teams full of outstanding players, I think of Man City / Ipswich, both of whom have done well. 
    England in the 2010/2014 world cups. Arguably much better squads individually than 2018/2022 but massively underachieved
  • edited August 2023
    sam3110 said:
    England in the 2010/2014 world cups. Arguably much better squads individually than 2018/2022 but massively underachieved
    International sides are a bit different eh

    I am trying to understand the idea that a team full of outstanding players in this league would flatter to deceive. Not rejecting it, trying to understand 

    From my perspective, bringing in the best possible players historically gives you the best possible chance of getting out of the league 
  • Ok, Ipswich a couple of seasons ago, I've seen people envious of the squad Portsmouth put together and they achieved nothing last season too.

    It happens
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  • sam3110 said:
    Ok, Ipswich a couple of seasons ago, I've seen people envious of the squad Portsmouth put together and they achieved nothing last season too.

    It happens
    Ipswich had an excellent squad under whatshisname and were awful, that's true. The change of manager has brought them success.

    Anyone who thought last season's Portsmouth squad was full of outstanding players needs to give their head a wobble!
  • Unless this is one that has been kept quiet like Chem was yesterday I'd expect this to be Sam Cosgrove. 
  • Woohoo! Hope it's true
  • edited August 2023
    Unless like the last one, he decided to go elsewhere. Just hope this time he is right
  • edited August 2023
    sam3110 said:
    A player mis-controlling the ball CANNOT be blamed on the manager, that's absolutely ridiculous! May as well start blaming the manager for the weather or if the train to the game is delayed ffs
    The weather is lousy outside, non stop rain, Deanos got a lot to answer for!
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