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England Cricket 2023

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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,734
    Chizz said:
    Bide our time against Hazelwood and Cummins. Starc will naturally go for runs so keep doing that. Lyon not likely to bowl and Green being managed. Attack their part time spinners who will have to bowl and wait for their quicks to tire. When they do go full Bazball.
    Nah!  Strike the ball repeatedly out of the ground, without taking chances. 
    I appreciate the you aren't someone prone to being ironic so will agree that if you repeatedly hit the ball out of the ground then you certainly aren't taking any chances. If you mishit it or guide it into the hands of fielders because the ball isn't there to hit cleanly then you are taking chances which is what we repeatedly did today.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,818
    So, what do we expect state of play to be after England’s innings ?

    I am going for deficit of 46 runs 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,925
    I reckon we'll get another hundred or so, so probably not far off your prediction.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,734
    Difficult to predict until we see what the overhead conditions are. It's also only 19 overs to the new ball. In the position we are in I would be disappointed if we can't get somewhere near parity. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,816
    Difficult to predict until we see what the overhead conditions are. It's also only 19 overs to the new ball. In the position we are in I would be disappointed if we can't get somewhere near parity. 
    Tomorrow looks like being overcast and relatively cool. 
  • FSLN1
    FSLN1 Posts: 263
    Root was a tad unlucky:

    DM4xnFA.jpg (1224×1224) (imgur.com)

    You can't blame Marais Erasmus, I doubt he had this view, still a rubbish shot by Root though. 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,873
    Funny how the main advocate of Bazball was about the only one playing the conditions & binding his time.

    Reminded me of 4 years ago at Headingley when he took ages to score a run & blocked an end before close of play. We all know what happened the next day  🙂
    Crawley, duckett, pope and root all should be reminded of this. 

    Crawley is a low score waiting to happen and missed the opportunity to get runs that were on offer
    duckett, well the clues in his name, duck it and he gets 100
    pope was silly
    root, not sure why englands second highest run scorer is changing his approach

    If England played aggressively but sensibly, they would be in a good position, especially with Lyon unable to bowl.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,322
    FSLN1 said:
    Root was a tad unlucky:

    DM4xnFA.jpg (1224×1224) (imgur.com)

    You can't blame Marais Erasmus, I doubt he had this view, still a rubbish shot by Root though. 
    "Unlucky" is one of the least appropriate descriptions of Root's batting yesterday
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,308
    Have sympathy for Duckett - he tried to hit his down (unlike Pope/Root) as he'd been doing for the previous half-hour, just got the top edge
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,322
    We should be in for another fabulously compelling, gripping and exciting day's cricket today. 

    But, before it starts, can I make a plea for anyone who hasn't already visited the "How Are You?" thread to do so, in particular, the short (three line) post from JohnFromNorfolk from two days ago. 

    I'm sure John would appreciate any kind words left for him on that thread. 

    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/94289/how-are-you/p19 
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  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,233
    Contrived a way to lose the initiative in a session when, with the loss of Lyon, we should have seized it and capitalised. I expected the aussies to be galvanized after losing Lyon, but they didn't need to be. This is the ashes and we're gifting it to them in the name of entertainment. Lose the first session today and this test is gone, notwithstanding the weather.
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,670
    Leuth said:
    Have sympathy for Duckett - he tried to hit his down (unlike Pope/Root) as he'd been doing for the previous half-hour, just got the top edge
    Also have a bit of sympathy for Pope to be fair. He got into a great position to execute the shot and just didn't hit it correctly, that happens. Root was just going after ones that the odds were completely against him. Far too high to be playing with any control.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,816
    A restricted view seat, but minimal intrusion really

  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,816
    Of more concern is the massive group of Aussies near me!
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,925
    Enjoy your day Killer, hopefully you get a good one and England pile on the runs this morning!
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,670
    Of more concern is the massive group of Aussies near me!
    They are like church mice anytime i've seen them
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Oh dear.  279/5 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,925
    FFS.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,779
    fuck
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,925
    One away from the tail....
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  • FSLN1
    FSLN1 Posts: 263
    Today's started well then..

    Stokes nicks off, England 279/5. 
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,587
    FFS
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,734
    Do you know what really concerns me about our strategy is that our greatest batsman of all time so easily got sucked into playing as if he was born to bat like Jos Buttler. In the First Test he truly showed his class, took 75 balls to reach 50, played himself in and then launched an assault once he was seeing like a football to score 118 not out off 152 balls. Here, he was given a chance when Green overstepped but still repeated the same error to get out. That isn't his game. Then look what happened when Stokes came in. The very person who has been telling everyone "this is how we play" opted to bat like Dominic Sibley in scoring 17 off 57 - thus probably making Root feel like the fall guy for our tactics. 

    So after all of that we've ended up scoring at 4.55 runs per over. And we should be at least 5 down too with Brook having been dropped and just the tail to come. Australia lost the toss again, survived the worst of the conditions in making only 39 off their first 17 overs and still managed to score at 4.53 an over for the rest of the innings. And they didn't have to at any time resort to brain dead cricket. 
    We are now in that position.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,816
    Of more concern is the massive group of Aussies near me!
    Who had something early to celebrate...
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    We have got quite a long tail now with moeen out of the side...
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    We have got quite a long tail now with moeen out of the side...
    But as long as if Leach would have played? 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,925
    We have got quite a long tail now with moeen out of the side...
    Come on the Josh Tongue century....  :D
  • FSLN1
    FSLN1 Posts: 263
    UPDATE from Cricket Australia: Nathan Lyon has been diagnosed with a significant calf strain. He will require a period of rehabilitation after this match is concluded. A decision regarding his availability for the remainder of the series will be made at the conclusion of the game.
    ...

    So out of this game and at least the next Test. 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,925
    edited June 2023
    Todd Murphy is supposed to be decent isn't he?

    So the main advantage will be this Test, we need to take advantage while we can!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,816
    Brutal stuff from Starc