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Ivan Toney

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    I wonder what odds Toney got when he bet that he'd miss a penalty today  ;)
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 8,588
    RedChaser said:
    Was Pope in goal for us when Taylor was taking our pens?
    My memory is awful 😞 
    Nah they missed one another by 2 years Pope to Burnley 2016, Taylor to us 2018.
    Thank you sooooooo much 🙏🏻
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,215
    Banned from all football till Mid January 2024
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,592
    shirty5 said:
    Banned from all football till Mid January 2024
    Dodged a bullet there, by not buying him when ESI where about.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Ouch. Better take him out of my Fantasy Team!
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,757
    So, effectively, because of the timing, he's banned from playing for less than six months, will probably miss about 25 games and can return to training in September. He's been fined £50k but does this mean that Brentford won't be paying him for the whole of the eight months?  
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,650
    shirty5 said:
    Banned from all football till Mid January 2024
    He’d fit in well at the Valley.
  • Gary Poole
    Gary Poole Posts: 1,874
    shirty5 said:
    Banned from all football till Mid January 2024
    We’ll probably take him on loan for next season with an option for them to recall in January
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    The rules around betting are ridiculous. Professional Sports participants are pretty much banned from having any interest in matches they aren't involved in. Why shouldn't they be allowed to have a bet on Man City murdering Southampton if they wanted to.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,615
    shirty5 said:
    Banned from all football till Mid January 2024
    Haven't Everton got Brentford last game of the season. 

    Fix !!
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  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,943
    edited May 2023
    DubaiCAFC said:
    The rules around betting are ridiculous. Professional Sports participants are pretty much banned from having any interest in matches they aren't involved in. Why shouldn't they be allowed to have a bet on Man City murdering Southampton if they wanted to.
    Pretty obvious really, they all have mates at other clubs, there's more of a chance for thrown matches, players deliberately getting yellow cards, conceding corners etc etc after collusion.

    I very rarely bet on football, can I not have 'any interest' in matches I'm not playing in?  Or involving the team I support?

    They can just watch games without a bet  not difficult, and they're paid millions and part of their contract is to stick to the rules on betting, doping etc etc.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    edited May 2023
    DubaiCAFC said:
    The rules around betting are ridiculous. Professional Sports participants are pretty much banned from having any interest in matches they aren't involved in. Why shouldn't they be allowed to have a bet on Man City murdering Southampton if they wanted to.
    What if they have friends involved in the Man City vs Southampton game, and suggest that one of them gives a dodgy corner for a share of £10k

    Its a corner one game, could get them to throw a goal the next... It all comes down to match fixing
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    Fair point. Well if proven for that, then yes bang to rights and throw the book at them
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,757
    DubaiCAFC said:
    The rules around betting are ridiculous. Professional Sports participants are pretty much banned from having any interest in matches they aren't involved in. Why shouldn't they be allowed to have a bet on Man City murdering Southampton if they wanted to.
    Matt Le Tissier's story about attempted "spot fixing"

    Spread betting had just started to become popular. It was a new idea which allowed punters to back anything from the final score to the first throw-in,' he says in his autobiography Taking Le Tiss.

    'There was a lot of money to be made by exploiting it. We were safe from the threat of relegation when we went to Wimbledon on April 17 and, as it was a televised match, there was a wide range of bets available.

    Obviously I'd never have done anything that might have affected the outcome of the match, but I couldn't see a problem with making a few quid on the time of the first throw-in.

    'My team-mate had some friends with spread-betting accounts who laid some big bets for us. We stood to win well into four figures but if it went wrong we could have lost a lot of money.'

    'It was set up nicely. The ball was to be rolled back to me and I would smash it into touch. It seemed to be going like clockwork. We kicked off, the ball was tapped to me and I went to hit it out towards Neil Shipperley on the left wing.

    'As it was live on television I didn't want to make it too obvious or end up looking like a prat for miscuing the ball so I tried to hit it just over his head. But with so much riding on it I was a bit nervous and didn't give it quite enough welly.

    'The problem was that Shipperley knew nothing about the bet and managed to reach it and even head it back into play.

    'I have never run so much in my life. If there had been Pro Zone analysis back then my stats would have been amazing for the next minute as I charged around the pitch desperately trying to kick the ball out of play.

    'Suddenly it was no longer a question of winning money. We stood to lose a lot of cash if it went much longer than 75 seconds before the ball went out.

    'I had visions of guys coming to kneecap me. Eventually we got the ball out on 70 seconds. The neutral time meant we had neither won nor lost. I have never tried spread betting since.'

  • Hard to believe the stupidity of footballers sometimes...
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,757
    Toney and all PFA members will have been warned countless number of times of the consequences. We are not talking about one or two slips. There were 232 betting breaches!!!
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,215
    DubaiCAFC said:
    The rules around betting are ridiculous. Professional Sports participants are pretty much banned from having any interest in matches they aren't involved in. Why shouldn't they be allowed to have a bet on Man City murdering Southampton if they wanted to.
    Nobody’s perfect but 232 times is a bit much 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Will he be able to have a splurge and do all his dough during the period of the ban?
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,363
    seth plum said:
    Will he be able to have a splurge and do all his dough during the period of the ban?
    I’m going to hazard a guess and say probably not….
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,991
    I can see both sides of the argument.

    He knew the rules, he shouldn't have bet so he can't have any complaints. If he was that desperate for a bet, then bet on another sport.

    However players have got away with much shorter bans for far worse offences. Ben Thatcher's assault on Mendes, Luis Suarez and John Terry for racism, Roy Keane's tackle on Haaland. I think Suarez also only got a 4 month ban for BITING a player!

    I do however think it's stupid he isn't even allowed to train with the squad, that's ridiculous.
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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,757
    I can see both sides of the argument.

    He knew the rules, he shouldn't have bet so he can't have any complaints. If he was that desperate for a bet, then bet on another sport.

    However players have got away with much shorter bans for far worse offences. Ben Thatcher's assault on Mendes, Luis Suarez and John Terry for racism, Roy Keane's tackle on Haaland. I think Suarez also only got a 4 month ban for BITING a player!

    I do however think it's stupid he isn't even allowed to train with the squad, that's ridiculous.
    But that is only for the first half of his ban (and no one will be training for part of that) and he is free to do so for the final four months of his ban. 
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,299
    50K fine.......He'll win that back on a decent accumulator!!
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,024
    shirty5 said:
    Did he have a few quid on the only goal for Scunthorpe against us back in April 2018? 


    The guy who gave the finger :D
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,024
    So, effectively, because of the timing, he's banned from playing for less than six months, will probably miss about 25 games and can return to training in September. He's been fined £50k but does this mean that Brentford won't be paying him for the whole of the eight months?  
    Hopefully he'll not be paid, that will hurt him more than the ban.
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,560
    So, effectively, because of the timing, he's banned from playing for less than six months, will probably miss about 25 games and can return to training in September. He's been fined £50k but does this mean that Brentford won't be paying him for the whole of the eight months?  
    Hopefully he'll not be paid, that will hurt him more than the ban.
    I bet (@10/1) he is gutted

    Some of his "wage" will be made up of appearance money and goal bonus, so hopefully that will hit him, even if they continue to pay his basic.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,068
    Blow for Brentford next season, wouldn't be surprised to see them struggling 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,837
    Hard to believe the stupidity of footballers sometimes...
    Wanna bet on that?
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,914
    At least he'll be back for the 1-1 draw on new years day.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Maybe now is the chance for the man to get help.

    https://responsiblegambling.bet365.com/contact-us