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I'm not being critical of Allen here btw, as even Murphy said at one point yesterday sometimes as a snooker player you get to the table and there are 2 or 3 shots you can play and your brain just fogs over on what is the best shot, when your in a world championship semi final that must make it 100 times worsepaulie8290 said:
Where was your comment when Allen took 3 and a half minutes on a shot yesterdaycafcsinger said:
Did you see Selby turn down that pink? Goes onto lose the frame too, Hendry couldn't believe he tried to play safe instead of going for the pot.paulie8290 said:
"Dour boring Selby" gets a century in frame 1cafcsinger said:Anyone but dour boring Selby
Won the safety battle then gets a century, as I said earlier, he has everything
Guaranteed if that was Selby you would have been straight on here.
Lets not forget for these players this is there job, if they don't win they don't earn money.
Look at Brecel, how many times could or should he have played safe but instead he has gone for everything and finds himself 11-5 down
You may not like the way Selby plays, but he is a 4 time World Champion for a reason, because he can make big breaks but can also grind people down(an animal as Higgins called him)
Yes he lost that frame, but if he won it suddenly everyone would have been saying it was the right shot, if he went for the pink and missed and Allen won it would have been the wrong shot
Dammed if he does and dammed if he doesn't
In the end Allen played a fantastic shot forced a mistake from Selby and won the frame, so 3 and a half minutes was worth it from his POV.
My point was if it was Selby certain people would have been all over it.
But as I say none of us will ever know the pressure of playing in a world championship semi final, and what that does to your thought process, you could look at it on your TV screen and see the easiest shot, but when your in that environment your brain probably fogs up and you cant see it clearly1 -
I actually think Allen is harder to watch these days, also its good to see him reel it in a bit and had the results to back it up. He is playing similar to how Selby does now so it makes it tougher to beat, both can score as well as most but its all about percentages.paulie8290 said:
I'm not being critical of Allen here btw, as even Murphy said at one point yesterday sometimes as a snooker player you get to the table and there are 2 or 3 shots you can play and your brain just fogs over on what is the best shot, when your in a world championship semi final that must make it 100 times worsepaulie8290 said:
Where was your comment when Allen took 3 and a half minutes on a shot yesterdaycafcsinger said:
Did you see Selby turn down that pink? Goes onto lose the frame too, Hendry couldn't believe he tried to play safe instead of going for the pot.paulie8290 said:
"Dour boring Selby" gets a century in frame 1cafcsinger said:Anyone but dour boring Selby
Won the safety battle then gets a century, as I said earlier, he has everything
Guaranteed if that was Selby you would have been straight on here.
Lets not forget for these players this is there job, if they don't win they don't earn money.
Look at Brecel, how many times could or should he have played safe but instead he has gone for everything and finds himself 11-5 down
You may not like the way Selby plays, but he is a 4 time World Champion for a reason, because he can make big breaks but can also grind people down(an animal as Higgins called him)
Yes he lost that frame, but if he won it suddenly everyone would have been saying it was the right shot, if he went for the pink and missed and Allen won it would have been the wrong shot
Dammed if he does and dammed if he doesn't
In the end Allen played a fantastic shot forced a mistake from Selby and won the frame, so 3 and a half minutes was worth it from his POV.
My point was if it was Selby certain people would have been all over it.
But as I say none of us will ever know the pressure of playing in a world championship semi final, and what that does to your thought process, you could look at it on your TV screen and see the easiest shot, but when your in that environment your brain probably fogs up and you cant see it clearly
I do think people are overly critical of Selby, also he has speed up in recent years compared to how he used to be. He still might take a while over the odd shot but when he is flowing he isn't slow. Come on Selby, if not Si would be good to see him win after an amazing tournament but would prefer Mark ( betting and just generally think he is the best left)1 -
just got back from Sheffield, it was an absolute pleasure to be in the Crucible for this morning's session. Si really is something special, his break building is like watching old school Hendry but he has better long potting. A couple of his shots today were out of this world
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My goodness, some of the shots Brecel and Si have been taking on tonight are unbelievable. Cracking game.0
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What a contrast to the other semi - ridiculous how long frames were taking. Hendry was pretty critical of it. Not a great advert for snooker.Bournemouth Addick said:My goodness, some of the shots Brecel and Si have been taking on tonight are unbelievable. Cracking game.
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Brecel dead and buried at 14-5 down but has got it back to 14-10. If he can win the first couple of frames today, then surely Si will start to get nervous (if he isn't already).
Selby leads Allen 7-6 but the session ended up being only 5 frames instead of 8 because the frames were taking so long. Stephen Hendry said "It was not pretty. It is not snooker that I want to watch but I understand that snooker has to be played in different ways and balls can dictate that."0 -
Will certainly be a contrast of styles in the final. Think both Si and Brecel might struggle in a tactical battle.0
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Brecel has now won 10 in a row and leads 15-14
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Great comeback by Brecel.0
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Being cynical…what odds would someone have got on Brecel to win when he was 14-5 down…does make you wonder after recent corruption allegations in the game…0
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Sadly given recent betting scandals it's a possibility. Ronnie's collapse also seemed pretty bizarre.CafcWest said:Being cynical…what odds would someone have got on Brecel to win when he was 14-5 down…does make you wonder after recent corruption allegations in the game…2 -
I thought we were in for another great come back last night but Allen just ran out of steam in the end. Both players made some unexpected errors the later it got and lots of it was quite attritional at times.
Should be an interesting contrast of styles today.0 -
yesterdays semi final summed up Selby. When his at his best he's pretty boring but when he's not playing well he's near unwatchable. Allen wasn't great but in the end came to life with some great pots. shame it was all too late.
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6 - 2 to Brecel after the first session.
Brecel looking good. hope he doesn't get caught up in the spiders web of safety by Selby. Which i believe will be Selbys way of clawing back.
Talking of Selby, he don't half look exhausted. Belgium fans keeping him up outside his hotel maybe?0 -
Well, to be fair to him, last night's semi didn't fininish until around 12:45 (if I remember correctly) as watched it - very late for me!Karim_myBagheri said:6 - 2 to Brecel after the first session.
Brecel looking good. hope he doesn't get caught up in the spiders web of safety by Selby. Which i believe will be Selbys way of clawing back.
Talking of Selby, he don't half look exhausted. Belgium fans keeping him up outside his hotel maybe?2 -
true and i watched it as well. Pretty exhausting to watch as well as it being so late to finish.CafcWest said:
Well, to be fair to him, last night's semi didn't fininish until around 12:45 (if I remember correctly) as watched it - very late for me!Karim_myBagheri said:6 - 2 to Brecel after the first session.
Brecel looking good. hope he doesn't get caught up in the spiders web of safety by Selby. Which i believe will be Selbys way of clawing back.
Talking of Selby, he don't half look exhausted. Belgium fans keeping him up outside his hotel maybe?1 -
I've been a bit of a snooker result sceptic ever since Taylor/Davis in 1985 .. Davis missing those blacks ? .. nahhoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Sadly given recent betting scandals it's a possibility. Ronnie's collapse also seemed pretty bizarre.CafcWest said:Being cynical…what odds would someone have got on Brecel to win when he was 14-5 down…does make you wonder after recent corruption allegations in the game…
Brecel's results look dubious, BUT he is playing superb snooker and the prize money difference between a semi final and finalist is £100,000, with the chance of winning first prize of £500,000 .. a lot of money to give up despite the well known Chinese penchant for a bent 'gamble' .. Brecel's win over Ronnneee looks even more questionable, if you are of that mindset
We know that snooker is prone to being fixed but despite my doubts over Tayor/Davis, I doubt the really big tournaments are fixed nowadays, dubious betting trends are much more obvious (we hope lol)0 -
I think Davis missing that final Black is his biggest regret in his Career.Lincsaddick said:
I've been a bit of a snooker result sceptic ever since Taylor/Davis in 1985 .. Davis missing those blacks ? .. nahhoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Sadly given recent betting scandals it's a possibility. Ronnie's collapse also seemed pretty bizarre.CafcWest said:Being cynical…what odds would someone have got on Brecel to win when he was 14-5 down…does make you wonder after recent corruption allegations in the game…
Brecel's results look dubious, BUT he is playing superb snooker and the prize money difference between a semi final and finalist is £100,000, with the chance of winning first prize of £500,000 .. a lot of money to give up despite the well known Chinese penchant for a bent 'gamble' .. Brecel's win over Ronnneee looks even more questionable, if you are of that mindset
We know that snooker is prone to being fixed but despite my doubts over Tayor/Davis, I doubt the really big tournaments are fixed nowadays, dubious betting trends are much more obvious (we hope lol)
No way did he do that on purpose.5 -
we will never know !!blackpool72 said:
I think Davis missing that final Black is his biggest regret in his Career.Lincsaddick said:
I've been a bit of a snooker result sceptic ever since Taylor/Davis in 1985 .. Davis missing those blacks ? .. nahhoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Sadly given recent betting scandals it's a possibility. Ronnie's collapse also seemed pretty bizarre.CafcWest said:Being cynical…what odds would someone have got on Brecel to win when he was 14-5 down…does make you wonder after recent corruption allegations in the game…
Brecel's results look dubious, BUT he is playing superb snooker and the prize money difference between a semi final and finalist is £100,000, with the chance of winning first prize of £500,000 .. a lot of money to give up despite the well known Chinese penchant for a bent 'gamble' .. Brecel's win over Ronnneee looks even more questionable, if you are of that mindset
We know that snooker is prone to being fixed but despite my doubts over Tayor/Davis, I doubt the really big tournaments are fixed nowadays, dubious betting trends are much more obvious (we hope lol)
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you really think that davis/taylor match was fixed?
being a sceptic myself you have me wondering...0 -
well .. both from the same management group (Barry 'Earn), Davis a well established star, already a few titles to his name, if Taylor won it would be a major upset, he was 7-0 down at one point, .. Davis's performance in the final frames was totally out of character .. be good for Hearn to have another champion to tour the clubs .. the game needed a new star .. only thick smoke i m o but no evidence of fire ..Karim_myBagheri said:you really think that davis/taylor match was fixed?
being a sceptic myself you have me wondering...0 -
anyway .. if Brecel wins it will be good for the game .. the last few titles/finals have been won by the older generation, with very few new young stars coming through .. I admire Selby but be good to see a seemingly fearless shot maker win the thing, the first European to make a real name for himself in snooker0
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Bloody hell! 147 Selby!0
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Selby - 147!0
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Fantastic Break.0
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Unbelievable Jeff0
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Lincsaddick said:
we will never know !!blackpool72 said:
I think Davis missing that final Black is his biggest regret in his Career.Lincsaddick said:
I've been a bit of a snooker result sceptic ever since Taylor/Davis in 1985 .. Davis missing those blacks ? .. nahhoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Sadly given recent betting scandals it's a possibility. Ronnie's collapse also seemed pretty bizarre.CafcWest said:Being cynical…what odds would someone have got on Brecel to win when he was 14-5 down…does make you wonder after recent corruption allegations in the game…
Brecel's results look dubious, BUT he is playing superb snooker and the prize money difference between a semi final and finalist is £100,000, with the chance of winning first prize of £500,000 .. a lot of money to give up despite the well known Chinese penchant for a bent 'gamble' .. Brecel's win over Ronnneee looks even more questionable, if you are of that mindset
We know that snooker is prone to being fixed but despite my doubts over Tayor/Davis, I doubt the really big tournaments are fixed nowadays, dubious betting trends are much more obvious (we hope lol)
No way did he do that on purpose.
Absolutely no way Davis would have thrown that final.1 -
Can't see the Davis/Taylor thing, people don't want to throw important games, it's why it's some random third round match etc that's usually dodgy as.
I know Davis was a multiple world champion, but pressure and frame of mind do strange things.
Anyone been watching the chess this month? A grandmaster freezing and not making any move at all, another one throwing a World championship winning position away in 3 moves that a local chess club player wouldn't make. All pressure, overthinking, overcomplicating things etc.2 -
Selby halves Kyren Wilson's paycheque .. looks as though Brecel is better coming from behind than galloping into a lead .. we will see0
