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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)
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Yes but they won’t be very young or very old so kind of reduces the risk and provides an established performance in a vital position - - think mendonca and kinsella - paid more for the former as less risk and more proven but both in their primeCafc43v3r said:
But that's not what anyone is saying!!!DOUCHER said:i have put my hands up to not having an extensive knowledge of current players but anybody who thinks only inexperienced youth or past it players are the only thing available to us because we are in league 1 need to either stop splitting hairs or realise they aren't the experts they think they are
Your taking a gamble who ever you sign. They will either be on the way up, or on the way down. They could be an Ajose they could be a Yann. They could be a Paul Williams, they could be a Stuart Fleetwood.0 -
There is a reason players go for and earn the most when they are in their prime years - got it ?Covered_End_Lad said:
The irony.DOUCHER said:
strewth - established as in not a youth but not past it - an established professional footballer - lets put this down to a misunderstanding shall we?i can see you're not as dim as double covered endCafc43v3r said:
Was McKirdy established when Port Vale jogged him on 14 months ago? You want an upgrade on Stockley (we all do and no one has said they don't) that's not McKirdy.DOUCHER said:
well i guess a mkirdy would be established - not a youth, not a has been, done well in the division below, ready to play his prime years in the division above - of course he may flop but there must be plenty like that out thereCafc43v3r said:
Disagree, it's the same at every level of the pyramid.DOUCHER said:
see above - don't agreeCafc43v3r said:
Well yes, basically.DOUCHER said:
not my job - is it too much to ask to sign a striker who isn't either an up and coming youth or a has been?Cafc43v3r said:
Get me the list thenDOUCHER said:
it means we need an established proven striker even if that isn't literally what he has said - obvious to everybody and something i agree withCafc43v3r said:
It means the poster is seldom wrong...Henry Irving said:Anyone able to explain what this means?
"Or any other has been or Premiership youngster with no previous game time. We already have Rak -Sakyi (fits the first) and Leaburn (fits the second)."
Proven where? Anyone we sign is going to come with some sort of risk aren't they? It's not like there is some sort of league 1 Haaland we are going to magic out of thin air.
On the basis that I, like 90% of others, probably won't have seen them play more than a couple of times I'll judge them on what they do on the pitch, not if they are established or not.
The 20 goal a season 25 year old league 1 striker literally doesn't exist.
How many current league 1 strikers have ever scored 20 league 1 goals in a season?
Stockton, Pigott, Clark-Harris, Marquis maybe missed one or two but it's not a long list.
Anyone we sign will be a gamble.
Obviously the "club" will be significantly more informed about players than us so I won't ask for a name. But a like is fair enough.
Established like a Taylor that scored 14 for a relegated team, BWP who had never scored more than 8 in a season?
I really don't know what you mean by established and what level you expect them to be established at.
What you want doesn't exist. You will be disappointed. I'll judge who we get on how they play.
If we don't get anyone we can both be pissed.
Effectively your entire point is now just about age, not too young or too old?If a player is 18 or 34 it matters not if they are good enough and will help us achieve our goals this season.0 -
Now that's what I call a rumour and gives us something to go on. Can't rule out my earlier suggestion of Luke Jephcott based on that, although some have said he wouldn't suit the style of play. However, any port in a storm and he's a goal scoring striker.DubaiCAFC said:My understanding is, we have explored the loan market for a forward, and couldn't bring in the correct player to play the system, or the ones that could we missed out on.
From what I have heard, we are going to pay a fee for a forward, 2 year deal.. Alfie May certainly fits the style of play, and is different to what we currently have.. No names have been given, but it is someone who had a good year in League One.. that's all I know.
Defender wise, I don't have any information on this..
The signings I think will happen, even if we can't shift a player, if we are able to shift a player or two it might lead to an extra signing..
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Thank you - it’s not a difficult concept and has been part of how football operates for ever despite these league 1 experts thinking we are in sone sort of transient anomaly - gamble in other areas, take punts but this signing in this position needs to be rightcafcfan1990 said:I think I'd take a punt on Stockton or Smith personally. I get the point that Doucher is trying to make to be honest. Ultimately, anybody is a gamble and I'd rather someone like Stockton or Smith, off the back of decent seasons in this league than someone like Bonne. May would fit the bill but not convinced he's made for a lone striker role in 1 433.0 -
Jephcott always looks like he’s carrying a bit of poundage to me.swordfish said:
Now that's what I call a rumour and gives us something to go on. Can't rule out my earlier suggestion of Luke Jephcott based on that, although some have said he wouldn't suit the style of play. However, any port in a storm and he's a goal scoring striker.DubaiCAFC said:My understanding is, we have explored the loan market for a forward, and couldn't bring in the correct player to play the system, or the ones that could we missed out on.
From what I have heard, we are going to pay a fee for a forward, 2 year deal.. Alfie May certainly fits the style of play, and is different to what we currently have.. No names have been given, but it is someone who had a good year in League One.. that's all I know.
Defender wise, I don't have any information on this..
The signings I think will happen, even if we can't shift a player, if we are able to shift a player or two it might lead to an extra signing..1 -
Interesting, thanks.DubaiCAFC said:My understanding is, we have explored the loan market for a forward, and couldn't bring in the correct player to play the system, or the ones that could we missed out on.
From what I have heard, we are going to pay a fee for a forward, 2 year deal.. Alfie May certainly fits the style of play, and is different to what we currently have.. No names have been given, but it is someone who had a good year in League One.. that's all I know.
Defender wise, I don't have any information on this..
The signings I think will happen, even if we can't shift a player, if we are able to shift a player or two it might lead to an extra signing..
Stockton and May fit that description, maybe a few others too.
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I will but the key is we have to buy somebody before they play for us and we need to reduce the chances of a flop as much as possible - not interested in potential, this signing needs to come in and hit the ground running and I’m hoping we have set aside the family silver to get itCafc43v3r said:
But you aren't going to get someone that has ever scored more than 15 league 1 goals then you will moan about that. Taylor hadn't, BWP hadn't. Ajose and Benson had.DOUCHER said:
strewth - established as in not a youth but not past it - an established professional footballer - lets put this down to a misunderstanding shall we?i can see you're not as dim as double covered endCafc43v3r said:
Was McKirdy established when Port Vale jogged him on 14 months ago? You want an upgrade on Stockley (we all do and no one has said they don't) that's not McKirdy.DOUCHER said:
well i guess a mkirdy would be established - not a youth, not a has been, done well in the division below, ready to play his prime years in the division above - of course he may flop but there must be plenty like that out thereCafc43v3r said:
Disagree, it's the same at every level of the pyramid.DOUCHER said:
see above - don't agreeCafc43v3r said:
Well yes, basically.DOUCHER said:
not my job - is it too much to ask to sign a striker who isn't either an up and coming youth or a has been?Cafc43v3r said:
Get me the list thenDOUCHER said:
it means we need an established proven striker even if that isn't literally what he has said - obvious to everybody and something i agree withCafc43v3r said:
It means the poster is seldom wrong...Henry Irving said:Anyone able to explain what this means?
"Or any other has been or Premiership youngster with no previous game time. We already have Rak -Sakyi (fits the first) and Leaburn (fits the second)."
Proven where? Anyone we sign is going to come with some sort of risk aren't they? It's not like there is some sort of league 1 Haaland we are going to magic out of thin air.
On the basis that I, like 90% of others, probably won't have seen them play more than a couple of times I'll judge them on what they do on the pitch, not if they are established or not.
The 20 goal a season 25 year old league 1 striker literally doesn't exist.
How many current league 1 strikers have ever scored 20 league 1 goals in a season?
Stockton, Pigott, Clark-Harris, Marquis maybe missed one or two but it's not a long list.
Anyone we sign will be a gamble.
Obviously the "club" will be significantly more informed about players than us so I won't ask for a name. But a like is fair enough.
Established like a Taylor that scored 14 for a relegated team, BWP who had never scored more than 8 in a season?
I really don't know what you mean by established and what level you expect them to be established at.
What you want doesn't exist. You will be disappointed. I'll judge who we get on how they play.
If we don't get anyone we can both be pissed.
Lets judge who ever we sign, if they are 18 or 35, on how they actually play? For us.1 -
Good newsDubaiCAFC said:My understanding is, we have explored the loan market for a forward, and couldn't bring in the correct player to play the system, or the ones that could we missed out on.
From what I have heard, we are going to pay a fee for a forward, 2 year deal.. Alfie May certainly fits the style of play, and is different to what we currently have.. No names have been given, but it is someone who had a good year in League One.. that's all I know.
Defender wise, I don't have any information on this..
The signings I think will happen, even if we can't shift a player, if we are able to shift a player or two it might lead to an extra signing..0 -
May would be interesting. Seems to have matured later in his footballing life after a long spell in non league, then on the bench largely for Doncaster before his switch to Cheltenham where he’s really found his feet in league football. He looks like a slightly more mobile Washington, which I guess is what we want.
Local lad too so wouldn’t be any of the potential issues associated with Stockton moving down south.Would be happy with either of them tbh. An eventful few days ahead then.4 -
Stockton doesn’t fit with what Sandgaard was saying about what we need. So I think Alfie May or Sam Smith from Cambridge are most likely if this is true. Smith would fit the age bracket we usually go for as well and can play out wide0
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Interesting that Sam Smith played in Cambridge’s two cup games but wasn’t in their squad last night. Only the pizza cup so can’t read too much into it but Alfie May did play in Cheltenham’s game yesterday.1
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6' 1" and scores a few with his head but a couple running in behind.0 -
May extended his contract until 2024 in January. Smith’s appears to expire next summer and seems a better fit for a lone striker who can also play out wide. He got a hat trick on Saturday playing on the right wing in a 4-2-3-1.9
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Great finish for his 3rd. He looks decent and as has been said, fits the age profile.Scoham said:May extended his contract until 2024 in January. Smith’s appears to expire next summer and seems a better fit for a lone striker who can also play out wide. He got a hat trick on Saturday playing on the right wing in a 4-2-3-1.0 -
Don’t know much about Smith, but age and location makes a lot of sense0
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I know bugger all about the players mentioned, as I did with our transfers that have happened so far.
Whoever we sign, I’ll judge them by what they deliver!!
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Bar Smith and May I'm struggling to think of other options , Matty Stevens at FGR I think is still out injured so won't be him.
Would be surprised if it was Jephcott or Ryan Hardie from Plymouth.0 -
To clarify, the deadline is tomorrow.
Already seeing lots of people on socials thinking it’s today.0 -
Smith looked rubbish for Cambridge at our place the other week.MarcusH26 said:Bar Smith and May I'm struggling to think of other options , Matty Stevens at FGR I think is still out injured so won't be him.
Would be surprised if it was Jephcott or Ryan Hardie from Plymouth.
I’m hoping it’s Daniel Udoh. Good age, strong & very much fits in with ‘running in behind’ (that’s what his game is all about).
He picked up a knock on Saturday though….maybe we’re waiting for the all clear on that (rather than waiting to sell players) before we can finalise a move…I hope!
Best realistic option I can think of.3 - Sponsored links:
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Excited by the striker on a permanent prospect. Expecting a complete unknown, in Garner we trust n all that. If I had to guess I reckon young(ish) from league two or struggling league one side.
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Bonner: "If in the next ten days something ridiculous comes up, that's a different kettle of fish, but we certainly don't envisage doing anything in terms of players in or out between now and the close of the window." #camUTD
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Alfie May - 1 goal in 6 games this season.
Has the purple already been removed from the patch?4 -
You’ve just blown the excuse Sandgaard was going to make for not signing anybody.Callumcafc said:To clarify, the deadline is tomorrow.
Already seeing lots of people on socials thinking it’s today.3 -
People calling Stockton a one season wonder should take a look at Alfie Mays record..?
Both good players imo but for some reason I believe it will be Stockton we end up with.3 -
Personally, I've been more impressed with Stockton than May.
They both seem like utter tw&ts which is probably what we need up top.0 -
Matty Stevens it is then.MarcusH26 said:Bar Smith and May I'm struggling to think of other options , Matty Stevens at FGR I think is still out injured so won't be him.
Would be surprised if it was Jephcott or Ryan Hardie from Plymouth.0 -
Ryan Hardie would be brilliant but cant see it this close to the window ending unless its a silly offer we put in.
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Cheltenham want 500k for May. Would be surprised if we’d pay that.3
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Stockton contract ends next summer so likely to move.
May signed new deal and apparently they want £ 500K. Local lad. One season wonder risk?
Smith at Cambridge seems to fit profile but is he available?
Hardie/Jephcott - maybe one is available, I know next to nothing about either.
Matty Stevens @FGR injured
Scully at Lincoln - would he fit the description? One year left on his contract.
Daniel Udoh at Shrews?
Seem to be the L1 runners and riders from posters on here then..5
