"Or any other has been or Premiership youngster with no previous game time. We already have Rak -Sakyi (fits the first) and Leaburn (fits the second)."
It means the poster is seldom wrong...
it means we need an established proven striker even if that isn't literally what he has said - obvious to everybody and something i agree with
Get me the list then
Proven where? Anyone we sign is going to come with some sort of risk aren't they? It's not like there is some sort of league 1 Haaland we are going to magic out of thin air.
On the basis that I, like 90% of others, probably won't have seen them play more than a couple of times I'll judge them on what they do on the pitch, not if they are established or not.
not my job - is it too much to ask to sign a striker who isn't either an up and coming youth or a has been?
"Or any other has been or Premiership youngster with no previous game time. We already have Rak -Sakyi (fits the first) and Leaburn (fits the second)."
It means the poster is seldom wrong...
it means we need an established proven striker even if that isn't literally what he has said - obvious to everybody and something i agree with
Get me the list then
Proven where? Anyone we sign is going to come with some sort of risk aren't they? It's not like there is some sort of league 1 Haaland we are going to magic out of thin air.
On the basis that I, like 90% of others, probably won't have seen them play more than a couple of times I'll judge them on what they do on the pitch, not if they are established or not.
not my job - is it too much to ask to sign a striker who isn't either an up and coming youth or a has been?
That’s kind of all options though isn’t it? Once a player proves themselves at this level they don’t stay at this level for long..
"Or any other has been or Premiership youngster with no previous game time. We already have Rak -Sakyi (fits the first) and Leaburn (fits the second)."
It means the poster is seldom wrong...
it means we need an established proven striker even if that isn't literally what he has said - obvious to everybody and something i agree with
Get me the list then
Proven where? Anyone we sign is going to come with some sort of risk aren't they? It's not like there is some sort of league 1 Haaland we are going to magic out of thin air.
On the basis that I, like 90% of others, probably won't have seen them play more than a couple of times I'll judge them on what they do on the pitch, not if they are established or not.
not my job - is it too much to ask to sign a striker who isn't either an up and coming youth or a has been?
That’s kind of all options though isn’t it? Once a player proves themselves at this level they don’t stay at this level for long..
don't agree - you could say that about every division in the football pyramid
"Or any other has been or Premiership youngster with no previous game time. We already have Rak -Sakyi (fits the first) and Leaburn (fits the second)."
Sorry, but of a typo.
Meant to say - A Premiership youngster (JRS) or a youngster with no previous game time (Leaburn).
"Or any other has been or Premiership youngster with no previous game time. We already have Rak -Sakyi (fits the first) and Leaburn (fits the second)."
I think three categories: 1: 'Has-been" 2: Premiership youngster (JRS) 3: no previous game time (Leaburn) Agree with Golfie on has-been. The Prem youngster depends on the individual, but I want a permanent signing, whoever it is. The CB a loan is fine as we have a lot of promise in the ranks.
"Or any other has been or Premiership youngster with no previous game time. We already have Rak -Sakyi (fits the first) and Leaburn (fits the second)."
It means the poster is seldom wrong...
it means we need an established proven striker even if that isn't literally what he has said - obvious to everybody and something i agree with
Get me the list then
Proven where? Anyone we sign is going to come with some sort of risk aren't they? It's not like there is some sort of league 1 Haaland we are going to magic out of thin air.
On the basis that I, like 90% of others, probably won't have seen them play more than a couple of times I'll judge them on what they do on the pitch, not if they are established or not.
not my job - is it too much to ask to sign a striker who isn't either an up and coming youth or a has been?
Well yes, basically.
The 20 goal a season 25 year old league 1 striker literally doesn't exist.
How many current league 1 strikers have ever scored 20 league 1 goals in a season?
Stockton, Pigott, Clark-Harris, Marquis maybe missed one or two but it's not a long list.
"Or any other has been or Premiership youngster with no previous game time. We already have Rak -Sakyi (fits the first) and Leaburn (fits the second)."
It means the poster is seldom wrong...
it means we need an established proven striker even if that isn't literally what he has said - obvious to everybody and something i agree with
Get me the list then
Proven where? Anyone we sign is going to come with some sort of risk aren't they? It's not like there is some sort of league 1 Haaland we are going to magic out of thin air.
On the basis that I, like 90% of others, probably won't have seen them play more than a couple of times I'll judge them on what they do on the pitch, not if they are established or not.
not my job - is it too much to ask to sign a striker who isn't either an up and coming youth or a has been?
Well yes, basically.
The 20 goal a season 25 year old league 1 striker literally doesn't exist.
How many current league 1 strikers have ever scored 20 league 1 goals in a season?
Stockton, Pigott, Clark-Harris, Marquis maybe missed one or two but it's not a long list.
"Or any other has been or Premiership youngster with no previous game time. We already have Rak -Sakyi (fits the first) and Leaburn (fits the second)."
Sorry, but of a typo.
Meant to say - A Premiership youngster (JRS) or a youngster with no previous game time (Leaburn).
Thanks, it didn't make sense but as you say a typo.
"Or any other has been or Premiership youngster with no previous game time. We already have Rak -Sakyi (fits the first) and Leaburn (fits the second)."
It means the poster is seldom wrong...
it means we need an established proven striker even if that isn't literally what he has said - obvious to everybody and something i agree with
Get me the list then
Proven where? Anyone we sign is going to come with some sort of risk aren't they? It's not like there is some sort of league 1 Haaland we are going to magic out of thin air.
On the basis that I, like 90% of others, probably won't have seen them play more than a couple of times I'll judge them on what they do on the pitch, not if they are established or not.
not my job - is it too much to ask to sign a striker who isn't either an up and coming youth or a has been?
Well yes, basically.
The 20 goal a season 25 year old league 1 striker literally doesn't exist.
How many current league 1 strikers have ever scored 20 league 1 goals in a season?
Stockton, Pigott, Clark-Harris, Marquis maybe missed one or two but it's not a long list.
Anyone we sign will be a gamble.
see above - don't agree
Disagree, it's the same at every level of the pyramid.
Obviously the "club" will be significantly more informed about players than us so I won't ask for a name. But a like is fair enough.
Established like a Taylor that scored 14 for a relegated team, BWP who had never scored more than 8 in a season?
I really don't know what you mean by established and what level you expect them to be established at.
"Or any other has been or Premiership youngster with no previous game time. We already have Rak -Sakyi (fits the first) and Leaburn (fits the second)."
It means the poster is seldom wrong...
it means we need an established proven striker even if that isn't literally what he has said - obvious to everybody and something i agree with
Get me the list then
Proven where? Anyone we sign is going to come with some sort of risk aren't they? It's not like there is some sort of league 1 Haaland we are going to magic out of thin air.
On the basis that I, like 90% of others, probably won't have seen them play more than a couple of times I'll judge them on what they do on the pitch, not if they are established or not.
not my job - is it too much to ask to sign a striker who isn't either an up and coming youth or a has been?
Well yes, basically.
The 20 goal a season 25 year old league 1 striker literally doesn't exist.
How many current league 1 strikers have ever scored 20 league 1 goals in a season?
Stockton, Pigott, Clark-Harris, Marquis maybe missed one or two but it's not a long list.
Anyone we sign will be a gamble.
see above - don't agree
Disagree, it's the same at every level of the pyramid.
Obviously the "club" will be significantly more informed about players than us so I won't ask for a name. But a like is fair enough.
Established like a Taylor that scored 14 for a relegated team, BWP who had never scored more than 8 in a season?
I really don't know what you mean by established and what level you expect them to be established at.
well i guess a mkirdy would be established - not a youth, not a has been, done well in the division below, ready to play his prime years in the division above - of course he may flop but there must be plenty like that out there
"Or any other has been or Premiership youngster with no previous game time. We already have Rak -Sakyi (fits the first) and Leaburn (fits the second)."
It means the poster is seldom wrong...
it means we need an established proven striker even if that isn't literally what he has said - obvious to everybody and something i agree with
Get me the list then
Proven where? Anyone we sign is going to come with some sort of risk aren't they? It's not like there is some sort of league 1 Haaland we are going to magic out of thin air.
On the basis that I, like 90% of others, probably won't have seen them play more than a couple of times I'll judge them on what they do on the pitch, not if they are established or not.
not my job - is it too much to ask to sign a striker who isn't either an up and coming youth or a has been?
Well yes, basically.
The 20 goal a season 25 year old league 1 striker literally doesn't exist.
How many current league 1 strikers have ever scored 20 league 1 goals in a season?
Stockton, Pigott, Clark-Harris, Marquis maybe missed one or two but it's not a long list.
Anyone we sign will be a gamble.
see above - don't agree
Disagree, it's the same at every level of the pyramid.
Obviously the "club" will be significantly more informed about players than us so I won't ask for a name. But a like is fair enough.
Established like a Taylor that scored 14 for a relegated team, BWP who had never scored more than 8 in a season?
I really don't know what you mean by established and what level you expect them to be established at.
well i guess a mkirdy would be established - not a youth, not a has been, done well in the division below, ready to play his prime years in the division above - of course he may flop but there must be plenty like that out there
yes, taylor was another - stockton would be another - marquis i would have taken
"Or any other has been or Premiership youngster with no previous game time. We already have Rak -Sakyi (fits the first) and Leaburn (fits the second)."
It means the poster is seldom wrong...
it means we need an established proven striker even if that isn't literally what he has said - obvious to everybody and something i agree with
Get me the list then
Proven where? Anyone we sign is going to come with some sort of risk aren't they? It's not like there is some sort of league 1 Haaland we are going to magic out of thin air.
On the basis that I, like 90% of others, probably won't have seen them play more than a couple of times I'll judge them on what they do on the pitch, not if they are established or not.
not my job - is it too much to ask to sign a striker who isn't either an up and coming youth or a has been?
Well yes, basically.
The 20 goal a season 25 year old league 1 striker literally doesn't exist.
How many current league 1 strikers have ever scored 20 league 1 goals in a season?
Stockton, Pigott, Clark-Harris, Marquis maybe missed one or two but it's not a long list.
Anyone we sign will be a gamble.
see above - don't agree
Disagree, it's the same at every level of the pyramid.
Obviously the "club" will be significantly more informed about players than us so I won't ask for a name. But a like is fair enough.
Established like a Taylor that scored 14 for a relegated team, BWP who had never scored more than 8 in a season?
I really don't know what you mean by established and what level you expect them to be established at.
well i guess a mkirdy would be established - not a youth, not a has been, done well in the division below, ready to play his prime years in the division above - of course he may flop but there must be plenty like that out there
A player who has never done in above L2 isn't an established signing for a L1 club looking for promotion.
Stockton and May have more credibility on that front, as they've already shown they can be prolific scorers in OUR division.
"Or any other has been or Premiership youngster with no previous game time. We already have Rak -Sakyi (fits the first) and Leaburn (fits the second)."
It means the poster is seldom wrong...
it means we need an established proven striker even if that isn't literally what he has said - obvious to everybody and something i agree with
Get me the list then
Proven where? Anyone we sign is going to come with some sort of risk aren't they? It's not like there is some sort of league 1 Haaland we are going to magic out of thin air.
On the basis that I, like 90% of others, probably won't have seen them play more than a couple of times I'll judge them on what they do on the pitch, not if they are established or not.
not my job - is it too much to ask to sign a striker who isn't either an up and coming youth or a has been?
Well yes, basically.
The 20 goal a season 25 year old league 1 striker literally doesn't exist.
How many current league 1 strikers have ever scored 20 league 1 goals in a season?
Stockton, Pigott, Clark-Harris, Marquis maybe missed one or two but it's not a long list.
Anyone we sign will be a gamble.
see above - don't agree
Disagree, it's the same at every level of the pyramid.
Obviously the "club" will be significantly more informed about players than us so I won't ask for a name. But a like is fair enough.
Established like a Taylor that scored 14 for a relegated team, BWP who had never scored more than 8 in a season?
I really don't know what you mean by established and what level you expect them to be established at.
well i guess a mkirdy would be established - not a youth, not a has been, done well in the division below, ready to play his prime years in the division above - of course he may flop but there must be plenty like that out there
So established is one good season in the division below, having never done it at this level?
"Or any other has been or Premiership youngster with no previous game time. We already have Rak -Sakyi (fits the first) and Leaburn (fits the second)."
It means the poster is seldom wrong...
it means we need an established proven striker even if that isn't literally what he has said - obvious to everybody and something i agree with
Get me the list then
Proven where? Anyone we sign is going to come with some sort of risk aren't they? It's not like there is some sort of league 1 Haaland we are going to magic out of thin air.
On the basis that I, like 90% of others, probably won't have seen them play more than a couple of times I'll judge them on what they do on the pitch, not if they are established or not.
not my job - is it too much to ask to sign a striker who isn't either an up and coming youth or a has been?
Well yes, basically.
The 20 goal a season 25 year old league 1 striker literally doesn't exist.
How many current league 1 strikers have ever scored 20 league 1 goals in a season?
Stockton, Pigott, Clark-Harris, Marquis maybe missed one or two but it's not a long list.
Anyone we sign will be a gamble.
see above - don't agree
Disagree, it's the same at every level of the pyramid.
Obviously the "club" will be significantly more informed about players than us so I won't ask for a name. But a like is fair enough.
Established like a Taylor that scored 14 for a relegated team, BWP who had never scored more than 8 in a season?
I really don't know what you mean by established and what level you expect them to be established at.
well i guess a mkirdy would be established - not a youth, not a has been, done well in the division below, ready to play his prime years in the division above - of course he may flop but there must be plenty like that out there
A player who has never done in above L2 isn't an established signing for a L1 club looking for promotion.
Stockton and May have more credibility on that front, as they've already shown they can be prolific scorers in OUR division.
"Or any other has been or Premiership youngster with no previous game time. We already have Rak -Sakyi (fits the first) and Leaburn (fits the second)."
It means the poster is seldom wrong...
it means we need an established proven striker even if that isn't literally what he has said - obvious to everybody and something i agree with
Get me the list then
Proven where? Anyone we sign is going to come with some sort of risk aren't they? It's not like there is some sort of league 1 Haaland we are going to magic out of thin air.
On the basis that I, like 90% of others, probably won't have seen them play more than a couple of times I'll judge them on what they do on the pitch, not if they are established or not.
not my job - is it too much to ask to sign a striker who isn't either an up and coming youth or a has been?
Well yes, basically.
The 20 goal a season 25 year old league 1 striker literally doesn't exist.
How many current league 1 strikers have ever scored 20 league 1 goals in a season?
Stockton, Pigott, Clark-Harris, Marquis maybe missed one or two but it's not a long list.
Anyone we sign will be a gamble.
see above - don't agree
Disagree, it's the same at every level of the pyramid.
Obviously the "club" will be significantly more informed about players than us so I won't ask for a name. But a like is fair enough.
Established like a Taylor that scored 14 for a relegated team, BWP who had never scored more than 8 in a season?
I really don't know what you mean by established and what level you expect them to be established at.
well i guess a mkirdy would be established - not a youth, not a has been, done well in the division below, ready to play his prime years in the division above - of course he may flop but there must be plenty like that out there
So established is one good season in the division below, having never done it at this level?
Like talking to cardboard.
it is if you can't get your head round the fact we are talking about established in the sense of having played league football for a good few years and not over the hill - killerandflash has just mentioned 2 - got it now smart arse?
That’s about as good a statement as can be. Obviously, it massively leaves the board vulnerable if deadline day ends as a damp squib.
Regardless of how the window ends, we’ve had a good window. We’ve got a set play style, we’ve recruited for that. We got the vast majority of our business done before the start to the season, we’re now looking for squad depth, not desperate to fill holes in the system.
We might not get promoted, but we’re certainly moving in the the right direction (in terms of recruitment).
Fans have zero impact on business. Calm down and enjoy the ride.
We've made decent signings that match the system we play, the one nagging doubt is whether they are all good enough, or whether we lack that little bit of star quality that most promoted teams have.
Yes I'm all for the club being run sensibly, but ultimately if we don't get promoted, Sandgaard's reign will have to be seen as a failure.
"Or any other has been or Premiership youngster with no previous game time. We already have Rak -Sakyi (fits the first) and Leaburn (fits the second)."
It means the poster is seldom wrong...
it means we need an established proven striker even if that isn't literally what he has said - obvious to everybody and something i agree with
Get me the list then
Proven where? Anyone we sign is going to come with some sort of risk aren't they? It's not like there is some sort of league 1 Haaland we are going to magic out of thin air.
On the basis that I, like 90% of others, probably won't have seen them play more than a couple of times I'll judge them on what they do on the pitch, not if they are established or not.
not my job - is it too much to ask to sign a striker who isn't either an up and coming youth or a has been?
Well yes, basically.
The 20 goal a season 25 year old league 1 striker literally doesn't exist.
How many current league 1 strikers have ever scored 20 league 1 goals in a season?
Stockton, Pigott, Clark-Harris, Marquis maybe missed one or two but it's not a long list.
Anyone we sign will be a gamble.
see above - don't agree
Disagree, it's the same at every level of the pyramid.
Obviously the "club" will be significantly more informed about players than us so I won't ask for a name. But a like is fair enough.
Established like a Taylor that scored 14 for a relegated team, BWP who had never scored more than 8 in a season?
I really don't know what you mean by established and what level you expect them to be established at.
well i guess a mkirdy would be established - not a youth, not a has been, done well in the division below, ready to play his prime years in the division above - of course he may flop but there must be plenty like that out there
Was McKirdy established when Port Vale jogged him on 14 months ago? You want an upgrade on Stockley (we all do and no one has said they don't) that's not McKirdy.
What you want doesn't exist. You will be disappointed. I'll judge who we get on how they play.
i have put my hands up to not having an extensive knowledge of current players but anybody who thinks only inexperienced youth or past it players are the only thing available to us because we are in league 1 need to either stop splitting hairs or realise they aren't the experts they think they are
"Or any other has been or Premiership youngster with no previous game time. We already have Rak -Sakyi (fits the first) and Leaburn (fits the second)."
It means the poster is seldom wrong...
it means we need an established proven striker even if that isn't literally what he has said - obvious to everybody and something i agree with
Get me the list then
Proven where? Anyone we sign is going to come with some sort of risk aren't they? It's not like there is some sort of league 1 Haaland we are going to magic out of thin air.
On the basis that I, like 90% of others, probably won't have seen them play more than a couple of times I'll judge them on what they do on the pitch, not if they are established or not.
not my job - is it too much to ask to sign a striker who isn't either an up and coming youth or a has been?
Well yes, basically.
The 20 goal a season 25 year old league 1 striker literally doesn't exist.
How many current league 1 strikers have ever scored 20 league 1 goals in a season?
Stockton, Pigott, Clark-Harris, Marquis maybe missed one or two but it's not a long list.
Anyone we sign will be a gamble.
Not to mention a technically well rounded and mobile 20 goal/season striker.
Also, when looking at that list, the 20 goal season was the exception for them, not the rule.
They just aren't there at this level. I think signing a talented but raw youngster on loan is our best bet. It's a gamble no matter what, and I'd rather gamble on a youngster growing into their own this season than a lower league journeyman. I know we have Leaburn, but he looks very raw still, he will still get games out wide, and it allows us to ease him into the first team rather than having him be our only striker if something happens with Stockley.
"Or any other has been or Premiership youngster with no previous game time. We already have Rak -Sakyi (fits the first) and Leaburn (fits the second)."
It means the poster is seldom wrong...
it means we need an established proven striker even if that isn't literally what he has said - obvious to everybody and something i agree with
Get me the list then
Proven where? Anyone we sign is going to come with some sort of risk aren't they? It's not like there is some sort of league 1 Haaland we are going to magic out of thin air.
On the basis that I, like 90% of others, probably won't have seen them play more than a couple of times I'll judge them on what they do on the pitch, not if they are established or not.
not my job - is it too much to ask to sign a striker who isn't either an up and coming youth or a has been?
Well yes, basically.
The 20 goal a season 25 year old league 1 striker literally doesn't exist.
How many current league 1 strikers have ever scored 20 league 1 goals in a season?
Stockton, Pigott, Clark-Harris, Marquis maybe missed one or two but it's not a long list.
Anyone we sign will be a gamble.
see above - don't agree
Disagree, it's the same at every level of the pyramid.
Obviously the "club" will be significantly more informed about players than us so I won't ask for a name. But a like is fair enough.
Established like a Taylor that scored 14 for a relegated team, BWP who had never scored more than 8 in a season?
I really don't know what you mean by established and what level you expect them to be established at.
well i guess a mkirdy would be established - not a youth, not a has been, done well in the division below, ready to play his prime years in the division above - of course he may flop but there must be plenty like that out there
Was McKirdy established when Port Vale jogged him on 14 months ago? You want an upgrade on Stockley (we all do and no one has said they don't) that's not McKirdy.
What you want doesn't exist. You will be disappointed. I'll judge who we get on how they play.
If we don't get anyone we can both be pissed.
strewth - established as in not a youth but not past it - an established professional footballer - lets put this down to a misunderstanding shall we?i can see you're not as dim as double covered end
i have put my hands up to not having an extensive knowledge of current players but anybody who thinks only inexperienced youth or past it players are the only thing available to us because we are in league 1 need to either stop splitting hairs or realise they aren't the experts they think they are
But that's not what anyone is saying!!!
Your taking a gamble who ever you sign. They will either be on the way up, or on the way down. They could be an Ajose they could be a Yann. They could be a Paul Williams, they could be a Stuart Fleetwood.
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Meant to say - A Premiership youngster (JRS) or a youngster with no previous game time (Leaburn).
The 20 goal a season 25 year old league 1 striker literally doesn't exist.
How many current league 1 strikers have ever scored 20 league 1 goals in a season?
Stockton, Pigott, Clark-Harris, Marquis maybe missed one or two but it's not a long list.
Anyone we sign will be a gamble.
It does now.
Obviously the "club" will be significantly more informed about players than us so I won't ask for a name. But a like is fair enough.
Established like a Taylor that scored 14 for a relegated team, BWP who had never scored more than 8 in a season?
I really don't know what you mean by established and what level you expect them to be established at.
Stockton and May have more credibility on that front, as they've already shown they can be prolific scorers in OUR division.
Yes I'm all for the club being run sensibly, but ultimately if we don't get promoted, Sandgaard's reign will have to be seen as a failure.
What you want doesn't exist. You will be disappointed. I'll judge who we get on how they play.
If we don't get anyone we can both be pissed.
Also, when looking at that list, the 20 goal season was the exception for them, not the rule.
They just aren't there at this level. I think signing a talented but raw youngster on loan is our best bet. It's a gamble no matter what, and I'd rather gamble on a youngster growing into their own this season than a lower league journeyman. I know we have Leaburn, but he looks very raw still, he will still get games out wide, and it allows us to ease him into the first team rather than having him be our only striker if something happens with Stockley.
Your taking a gamble who ever you sign. They will either be on the way up, or on the way down. They could be an Ajose they could be a Yann. They could be a Paul Williams, they could be a Stuart Fleetwood.