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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)
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While you’ve been gone we all took the opportunity to get together and agree how terrible everything is 😉sillav nitram said:PWR
116 new posts any actual rumours or just the endless waffle about everything and nothing?2 -
Except for me, who looks at things in a far too positive, happy clappy way, apparently!!😂😂😂EugenesAxe said:
While you’ve been gone we all took the opportunity to get together and agree how terrible everything is 😉sillav nitram said:PWR
116 new posts any actual rumours or just the endless waffle about everything and nothing?1 -
The latter of course, what do you expect from a rumours thread...rumours?...behavesillav nitram said:PWR
116 new posts any actual rumours or just the endless waffle about everything and nothing?
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I'm not sure how confirming you should've scored more goals but didn't is useful in any way. You could tell that from just watching the gameBR7_addick said:
Why? It’s an indication that on another day we could have got spanked, so perhaps we could use this let off to tighten up.Pelling1993 said:Xg is the most useless stat in football
Why the desperate need to ignore all the modern information technology at our disposal now.1 -
I think Trevor Clarke could be ideal for us.
To maintain squad balance and mount a serious promotion campaign we are in urgent need of someone with a very boring name.
Trevor Clarke meets the bill perfectly. He sounds like a carpet-fitter from Bromley. Trevor will add much needed stability to the likes of Diallang Jaiyesimi, Riki Saki, Claude Sessegonion and Victor McGrandles.
Our team sheet was to looking far too exotic for my liking.
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Need another Brown too1
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That’s not what I said, I said about tightening up because we could have conceded more according to stats.Pelling1993 said:
I'm not sure how confirming you should've scored more goals but didn't is useful in any way. You could tell that from just watching the gameBR7_addick said:
Why? It’s an indication that on another day we could have got spanked, so perhaps we could use this let off to tighten up.Pelling1993 said:Xg is the most useless stat in football
Why the desperate need to ignore all the modern information technology at our disposal now.
So have another go, why so desperate to ignore modern technology that’s designed to point out where you might go wrong in future fixtures?0 -
We aren't called Athletic though, nor do we play in such a manner too.0
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It’s useful over a longer period for example it can show if good form is likely to continue due to ability or if it’ll come to an end eventually as it’s more down to luck.Pelling1993 said:
I'm not sure how confirming you should've scored more goals but didn't is useful in any way. You could tell that from just watching the gameBR7_addick said:
Why? It’s an indication that on another day we could have got spanked, so perhaps we could use this let off to tighten up.Pelling1993 said:Xg is the most useless stat in football
Why the desperate need to ignore all the modern information technology at our disposal now.1 -
Got enough brown stuff alreadyEugenesAxe said:Need another Brown too0 -
More and more teams spend less time swinging in high crosses and shoot from range a lot less because they have been found to be low xG. It's why Man City spend most of their time getting to the byline and hitting those low crosses back across goal for a tap-in just like our first against Accrington because it's a much higher percentage play.Pelling1993 said:
I'm not sure how confirming you should've scored more goals but didn't is useful in any way. You could tell that from just watching the gameBR7_addick said:
Why? It’s an indication that on another day we could have got spanked, so perhaps we could use this let off to tighten up.Pelling1993 said:Xg is the most useless stat in football
Why the desperate need to ignore all the modern information technology at our disposal now.
So I'd argue it's not true to say it's the most useless stat in football, it has really changed the game.
As a fan you might find it useless to know your team had more chances but still lost, I personally like the info. There's been a few times I've been surprised by the xG because I've been too caught up in the emotion of the match and thinking we are rubbish! Also gives you an indication of whether you have serious problems or you are actually playing well but just not finishing chances.7 -
You’ve put it a lot better than I have.Chunes said:
More and more teams spend less time swinging in high crosses and shoot from range a lot less because they have been found to be low xG. It's why Man City spend most of their time getting to the byline and hitting those low crosses back across goal for a tap-in just like our first against Accrington because it's a much higher percentage play.Pelling1993 said:
I'm not sure how confirming you should've scored more goals but didn't is useful in any way. You could tell that from just watching the gameBR7_addick said:
Why? It’s an indication that on another day we could have got spanked, so perhaps we could use this let off to tighten up.Pelling1993 said:Xg is the most useless stat in football
Why the desperate need to ignore all the modern information technology at our disposal now.
So I'd argue it's not true to say it's the most useless stat in football, it has really changed the game.
As a fan you might find it useless to know your team had more chances but still lost, I personally like the info. There's been a few times I've been surprised by the xG because I've been too caught up in the emotion of the match and thinking we are rubbish! Also gives you an indication of whether you have serious problems or you are actually playing well but just not finishing chances.
But to add, if a manager has to prepare for the next fixture what’s more helpful?
a)Watching precious matches.
b)Watching previous matches and analysing performance stats.Unless you’re bonkers you’re going with B.3 -
No matter how many chances you create, if you consistently don't convert them then you do have serious problems, so I do not find that statistic very comforting!Chunes said:
More and more teams spend less time swinging in high crosses and shoot from range a lot less because they have been found to be low xG. It's why Man City spend most of their time getting to the byline and hitting those low crosses back across goal for a tap-in just like our first against Accrington because it's a much higher percentage play.Pelling1993 said:
I'm not sure how confirming you should've scored more goals but didn't is useful in any way. You could tell that from just watching the gameBR7_addick said:
Why? It’s an indication that on another day we could have got spanked, so perhaps we could use this let off to tighten up.Pelling1993 said:Xg is the most useless stat in football
Why the desperate need to ignore all the modern information technology at our disposal now.
So I'd argue it's not true to say it's the most useless stat in football, it has really changed the game.
As a fan you might find it useless to know your team had more chances but still lost, I personally like the info. There's been a few times I've been surprised by the xG because I've been too caught up in the emotion of the match and thinking we are rubbish! Also gives you an indication of whether you have serious problems or you are actually playing well but just not finishing chances.1 -
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Three clubs enquired about signing Kirk permanently - Blackpool, Reading and Hibs.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-winger-drawing-interest-from-three-clubs/
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You would expect that if you created enough high quality chances over enough games, good players would start to convert. If not, I guess it would at least highlight the problem and problem players. Though our main striker was, on ratio, perhaps in the top 1-2 strikers in the league for missed chances last year and yet still remains popular.thetomahawkkid said:
No matter how many chances you create, if you consistently don't convert them then you do have serious problems, so I do not find that statistic very comforting!Chunes said:
More and more teams spend less time swinging in high crosses and shoot from range a lot less because they have been found to be low xG. It's why Man City spend most of their time getting to the byline and hitting those low crosses back across goal for a tap-in just like our first against Accrington because it's a much higher percentage play.Pelling1993 said:
I'm not sure how confirming you should've scored more goals but didn't is useful in any way. You could tell that from just watching the gameBR7_addick said:
Why? It’s an indication that on another day we could have got spanked, so perhaps we could use this let off to tighten up.Pelling1993 said:Xg is the most useless stat in football
Why the desperate need to ignore all the modern information technology at our disposal now.
So I'd argue it's not true to say it's the most useless stat in football, it has really changed the game.
As a fan you might find it useless to know your team had more chances but still lost, I personally like the info. There's been a few times I've been surprised by the xG because I've been too caught up in the emotion of the match and thinking we are rubbish! Also gives you an indication of whether you have serious problems or you are actually playing well but just not finishing chances.
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Be surprised if he's here come SeptemberScoham said:Three clubs enquired about signing Kirk permanently.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-winger-drawing-interest-from-three-clubs/0 -
If you create loads of great chances but miss them, your weakness is finishing which may require a more clinical strikerthetomahawkkid said:
No matter how many chances you create, if you consistently don't convert them then you do have serious problems, so I do not find that statistic very comforting!Chunes said:
More and more teams spend less time swinging in high crosses and shoot from range a lot less because they have been found to be low xG. It's why Man City spend most of their time getting to the byline and hitting those low crosses back across goal for a tap-in just like our first against Accrington because it's a much higher percentage play.Pelling1993 said:
I'm not sure how confirming you should've scored more goals but didn't is useful in any way. You could tell that from just watching the gameBR7_addick said:
Why? It’s an indication that on another day we could have got spanked, so perhaps we could use this let off to tighten up.Pelling1993 said:Xg is the most useless stat in football
Why the desperate need to ignore all the modern information technology at our disposal now.
So I'd argue it's not true to say it's the most useless stat in football, it has really changed the game.
As a fan you might find it useless to know your team had more chances but still lost, I personally like the info. There's been a few times I've been surprised by the xG because I've been too caught up in the emotion of the match and thinking we are rubbish! Also gives you an indication of whether you have serious problems or you are actually playing well but just not finishing chances.
If you don't create loads of great chances, then it's not the striker's fault you aren't scoring goals.
Indeed things like shot conversion rates are a good way of comparing strikers. Last season for example Swindon were a very attacking team, creating lots of chances, therefore you'd expect their attacking players to score lots of goals, whereas a striker feeding off scraps elsewhere might actually be more clinical, but score fewer goals because the team creates so little.
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I hope we keep Kirk. Despite a poor start in difficult circumstances, he's proven in this league. Wouldn't be surprised if he goes to a Champ club.
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Kirk might well do well elsewhere. I don’t believe it is at our footballing expense.
Good luck to him, but everybody should cut their losses on this one.
Basically it’s all a bit being at the wrong place at the wrong time.2 -
Happy if we manage to get McKirdy as he's different to what we have3
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Reading are under a transfer embargo, Blackpool have already returned the player and I can’t see Hibs forking out a substantial transfer fee. I hope I’m wrong, but if Kirk leaves, I suspect it will be on loan to free up some wages.8
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Charlie Kirk has liked the original post, that's as good as confirmed for me, Welcome Harry!cafc_4life said:7 -
So McKirdy’s Blackpool bound then.Marriott110 said:
Charlie Kirk has liked the original post, that's as good as confirmed for me, Welcome Harry!cafc_4life said:6 -
It’s not supposed to be comforting. It just helps us understand the problem areas, in the most simplest form are we struggling creating or converting chances?thetomahawkkid said:
No matter how many chances you create, if you consistently don't convert them then you do have serious problems, so I do not find that statistic very comforting!Chunes said:
More and more teams spend less time swinging in high crosses and shoot from range a lot less because they have been found to be low xG. It's why Man City spend most of their time getting to the byline and hitting those low crosses back across goal for a tap-in just like our first against Accrington because it's a much higher percentage play.Pelling1993 said:
I'm not sure how confirming you should've scored more goals but didn't is useful in any way. You could tell that from just watching the gameBR7_addick said:
Why? It’s an indication that on another day we could have got spanked, so perhaps we could use this let off to tighten up.Pelling1993 said:Xg is the most useless stat in football
Why the desperate need to ignore all the modern information technology at our disposal now.
So I'd argue it's not true to say it's the most useless stat in football, it has really changed the game.
As a fan you might find it useless to know your team had more chances but still lost, I personally like the info. There's been a few times I've been surprised by the xG because I've been too caught up in the emotion of the match and thinking we are rubbish! Also gives you an indication of whether you have serious problems or you are actually playing well but just not finishing chances.2 -
A for Away!
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But then the stat doesnt take into account that there is another bloke, on the other team who has a job to do to keep the shots out of his net.thetomahawkkid said:
No matter how many chances you create, if you consistently don't convert them then you do have serious problems, so I do not find that statistic very comforting!Chunes said:
More and more teams spend less time swinging in high crosses and shoot from range a lot less because they have been found to be low xG. It's why Man City spend most of their time getting to the byline and hitting those low crosses back across goal for a tap-in just like our first against Accrington because it's a much higher percentage play.Pelling1993 said:
I'm not sure how confirming you should've scored more goals but didn't is useful in any way. You could tell that from just watching the gameBR7_addick said:
Why? It’s an indication that on another day we could have got spanked, so perhaps we could use this let off to tighten up.Pelling1993 said:Xg is the most useless stat in football
Why the desperate need to ignore all the modern information technology at our disposal now.
So I'd argue it's not true to say it's the most useless stat in football, it has really changed the game.
As a fan you might find it useless to know your team had more chances but still lost, I personally like the info. There's been a few times I've been surprised by the xG because I've been too caught up in the emotion of the match and thinking we are rubbish! Also gives you an indication of whether you have serious problems or you are actually playing well but just not finishing chances.
A Goalkeeper cant stop everything, but xG must still a very one sided stat, as doesnt break down how many shots went wide, how many were missed with an empty net in front of them... Or even how many were standard or worldie saves from the opposition Goalkeeper surely?
Its one thing that makes me laugh when fans talk about performances during a match
- Our Striker: He should have scored that... Our Goalkeeper: Oh he should have saved that
But how often is it spun on its head, with fans taking the same view with the opposition1 -
P is for Pegging?Vfrf said:A for Away!3
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