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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

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  • PWR

    116 new posts any actual rumours or just the endless waffle about everything and nothing?
    While you’ve been gone we all took the opportunity to get together and agree how terrible everything is 😉
  • PWR

    116 new posts any actual rumours or just the endless waffle about everything and nothing?
    While you’ve been gone we all took the opportunity to get together and agree how terrible everything is 😉
    Except for me, who looks at things in a far too positive, happy clappy way, apparently!!😂😂😂
  • edited August 2022
    PWR

    116 new posts any actual rumours or just the endless waffle about everything and nothing?
    The latter of course, what do you expect from a rumours thread...rumours?...behave  :D:D😂😂
  • Xg is the most useless stat in football 
    Why?  It’s an indication that on another day we could have got spanked, so perhaps we could use this let off to tighten up.

    Why the desperate need to ignore all the modern information technology at our disposal now.  
    I'm not sure how confirming you should've scored more goals but didn't is useful in any way. You could tell that from just watching the game
  • Need another Brown too
  • Xg is the most useless stat in football 
    Why?  It’s an indication that on another day we could have got spanked, so perhaps we could use this let off to tighten up.

    Why the desperate need to ignore all the modern information technology at our disposal now.  
    I'm not sure how confirming you should've scored more goals but didn't is useful in any way. You could tell that from just watching the game
    That’s not what I said, I said about tightening up because we could have conceded more according to stats.

    So have another go, why so desperate to ignore modern technology that’s designed to point out where you might go wrong in future fixtures?  
  • We aren't called Athletic though, nor do we play in such a manner too.
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  • Xg is the most useless stat in football 
    Why?  It’s an indication that on another day we could have got spanked, so perhaps we could use this let off to tighten up.

    Why the desperate need to ignore all the modern information technology at our disposal now.  
    I'm not sure how confirming you should've scored more goals but didn't is useful in any way. You could tell that from just watching the game
    It’s useful over a longer period for example it can show if good form is likely to continue due to ability or if it’ll come to an end eventually as it’s more down to luck.
  • Need another Brown too
    Got enough brown stuff already 
  • edited August 2022
    Chunes said:
    Xg is the most useless stat in football 
    Why?  It’s an indication that on another day we could have got spanked, so perhaps we could use this let off to tighten up.

    Why the desperate need to ignore all the modern information technology at our disposal now.  
    I'm not sure how confirming you should've scored more goals but didn't is useful in any way. You could tell that from just watching the game
    More and more teams spend less time swinging in high crosses and shoot from range a lot less because they have been found to be low xG. It's why Man City spend most of their time getting to the byline and hitting those low crosses back across goal for a tap-in just like our first against Accrington because it's a much higher percentage play. 

    So I'd argue it's not true to say it's the most useless stat in football, it has really changed the game. 

    As a fan you might find it useless to know your team had more chances but still lost, I personally like the info. There's been a few times I've been surprised by the xG because I've been too caught up in the emotion of the match and thinking we are rubbish! Also gives you an indication of whether you have serious problems or you are actually playing well but just not finishing chances. 
    You’ve put it a lot better than I have.

    But to add, if a manager has to prepare for the next fixture what’s more helpful?

    a)Watching precious matches.
    b)Watching previous matches and analysing performance stats.  

    Unless you’re bonkers you’re going with B.
  • Chunes said:
    Xg is the most useless stat in football 
    Why?  It’s an indication that on another day we could have got spanked, so perhaps we could use this let off to tighten up.

    Why the desperate need to ignore all the modern information technology at our disposal now.  
    I'm not sure how confirming you should've scored more goals but didn't is useful in any way. You could tell that from just watching the game
    More and more teams spend less time swinging in high crosses and shoot from range a lot less because they have been found to be low xG. It's why Man City spend most of their time getting to the byline and hitting those low crosses back across goal for a tap-in just like our first against Accrington because it's a much higher percentage play. 

    So I'd argue it's not true to say it's the most useless stat in football, it has really changed the game. 

    As a fan you might find it useless to know your team had more chances but still lost, I personally like the info. There's been a few times I've been surprised by the xG because I've been too caught up in the emotion of the match and thinking we are rubbish! Also gives you an indication of whether you have serious problems or you are actually playing well but just not finishing chances. 
    No matter how many chances you create, if you consistently don't convert them then you do have serious problems, so I do not find that statistic very comforting!
  • edited August 2022
    Three clubs enquired about signing Kirk permanently - Blackpool, Reading and Hibs.

    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-winger-drawing-interest-from-three-clubs/
  • edited August 2022
    Chunes said:
    Xg is the most useless stat in football 
    Why?  It’s an indication that on another day we could have got spanked, so perhaps we could use this let off to tighten up.

    Why the desperate need to ignore all the modern information technology at our disposal now.  
    I'm not sure how confirming you should've scored more goals but didn't is useful in any way. You could tell that from just watching the game
    More and more teams spend less time swinging in high crosses and shoot from range a lot less because they have been found to be low xG. It's why Man City spend most of their time getting to the byline and hitting those low crosses back across goal for a tap-in just like our first against Accrington because it's a much higher percentage play. 

    So I'd argue it's not true to say it's the most useless stat in football, it has really changed the game. 

    As a fan you might find it useless to know your team had more chances but still lost, I personally like the info. There's been a few times I've been surprised by the xG because I've been too caught up in the emotion of the match and thinking we are rubbish! Also gives you an indication of whether you have serious problems or you are actually playing well but just not finishing chances. 
    No matter how many chances you create, if you consistently don't convert them then you do have serious problems, so I do not find that statistic very comforting!
    You would expect that if you created enough high quality chances over enough games, good players would start to convert. If not, I guess it would at least highlight the problem and problem players. Though our main striker was, on ratio, perhaps in the top 1-2 strikers in the league for missed chances last year and yet still remains popular. 

  • Scoham said:
    Be surprised if he's here come September
  • Chunes said:
    Xg is the most useless stat in football 
    Why?  It’s an indication that on another day we could have got spanked, so perhaps we could use this let off to tighten up.

    Why the desperate need to ignore all the modern information technology at our disposal now.  
    I'm not sure how confirming you should've scored more goals but didn't is useful in any way. You could tell that from just watching the game
    More and more teams spend less time swinging in high crosses and shoot from range a lot less because they have been found to be low xG. It's why Man City spend most of their time getting to the byline and hitting those low crosses back across goal for a tap-in just like our first against Accrington because it's a much higher percentage play. 

    So I'd argue it's not true to say it's the most useless stat in football, it has really changed the game. 

    As a fan you might find it useless to know your team had more chances but still lost, I personally like the info. There's been a few times I've been surprised by the xG because I've been too caught up in the emotion of the match and thinking we are rubbish! Also gives you an indication of whether you have serious problems or you are actually playing well but just not finishing chances. 
    No matter how many chances you create, if you consistently don't convert them then you do have serious problems, so I do not find that statistic very comforting!
    If you create loads of great chances but miss them, your weakness is finishing which may require a more clinical striker
    If you don't create loads of great chances, then it's not the striker's fault you aren't scoring goals.

    Indeed things like shot conversion rates are a good way of comparing strikers. Last season for example Swindon were a very attacking team, creating lots of chances, therefore you'd expect their attacking players to score lots of goals, whereas a striker feeding off scraps elsewhere might actually be more clinical, but score fewer goals because the team creates so little.
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  • Kirk might well do well elsewhere. I don’t believe it is at our footballing expense.
    Good luck to him, but everybody should cut their losses on this one.
    Basically it’s all a bit being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
  • Happy if we manage to get McKirdy as he's different to what we have
  • Chunes said:
    Xg is the most useless stat in football 
    Why?  It’s an indication that on another day we could have got spanked, so perhaps we could use this let off to tighten up.

    Why the desperate need to ignore all the modern information technology at our disposal now.  
    I'm not sure how confirming you should've scored more goals but didn't is useful in any way. You could tell that from just watching the game
    More and more teams spend less time swinging in high crosses and shoot from range a lot less because they have been found to be low xG. It's why Man City spend most of their time getting to the byline and hitting those low crosses back across goal for a tap-in just like our first against Accrington because it's a much higher percentage play. 

    So I'd argue it's not true to say it's the most useless stat in football, it has really changed the game. 

    As a fan you might find it useless to know your team had more chances but still lost, I personally like the info. There's been a few times I've been surprised by the xG because I've been too caught up in the emotion of the match and thinking we are rubbish! Also gives you an indication of whether you have serious problems or you are actually playing well but just not finishing chances. 
    No matter how many chances you create, if you consistently don't convert them then you do have serious problems, so I do not find that statistic very comforting!
    It’s not supposed to be comforting. It just helps us understand the problem areas, in the most simplest form are we struggling creating or converting chances?
  • A for Away! 

  • edited August 2022
    Chunes said:
    Xg is the most useless stat in football 
    Why?  It’s an indication that on another day we could have got spanked, so perhaps we could use this let off to tighten up.

    Why the desperate need to ignore all the modern information technology at our disposal now.  
    I'm not sure how confirming you should've scored more goals but didn't is useful in any way. You could tell that from just watching the game
    More and more teams spend less time swinging in high crosses and shoot from range a lot less because they have been found to be low xG. It's why Man City spend most of their time getting to the byline and hitting those low crosses back across goal for a tap-in just like our first against Accrington because it's a much higher percentage play. 

    So I'd argue it's not true to say it's the most useless stat in football, it has really changed the game. 

    As a fan you might find it useless to know your team had more chances but still lost, I personally like the info. There's been a few times I've been surprised by the xG because I've been too caught up in the emotion of the match and thinking we are rubbish! Also gives you an indication of whether you have serious problems or you are actually playing well but just not finishing chances. 
    No matter how many chances you create, if you consistently don't convert them then you do have serious problems, so I do not find that statistic very comforting!
    But then the stat doesnt take into account that there is another bloke, on the other team who has a job to do to keep the shots out of his net.

    A Goalkeeper cant stop everything, but xG must still a very one sided stat, as doesnt break down how many shots went wide, how many were missed with an empty net in front of them... Or even how many were standard or worldie saves from the opposition Goalkeeper surely?

    Its one thing that makes me laugh when fans talk about performances during a match

     - Our Striker: He should have scored that... Our Goalkeeper: Oh he should have saved that

    But how often is it spun on its head, with fans taking the same view with the opposition
  • Vfrf said:
    A for Away! 

    P is for Pegging?
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