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Scott Fraser - pg 36 - left by mutual consent

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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,319
    Impressive from him to get that assist vs Bolton feeling like crap then
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Of course he's done well to avoid getting covid, then a few weeks of being at Charlton, already experienced our unique injury and illness perk in the contract.  
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,456
    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/6238a92231a50/scott-fraser-theres-more-to-come
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,849
    Having just had Covid, I now have more sympathy with the struggles the likes of Fraser and Gilbey have had in coming back afterwards, as without being especially unwell while I had the virus, now I'm over it I'm physically well down from normal
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,001
    killerandflash said:
    Having just had Covid, I now have more sympathy with the struggles the likes of Fraser and Gilbey have had in coming back afterwards, as without being especially unwell while I had the virus, now I'm over it I'm physically well down from normal
    Yeah, having had it myself it's genuinely no surprise that players are/were struggling to get back up to proper match speed, it really can do a number on you.

    Not to say they won't get there eventually but it does complicate/extend the process. 
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,650
    killerandflash said:
    Having just had Covid, I now have more sympathy with the struggles the likes of Fraser and Gilbey have had in coming back afterwards, as without being especially unwell while I had the virus, now I'm over it I'm physically well down from normal
    Same here, knocked me for 6, I’m still feeling the effects of it a month later.
  • charlton4ever
    charlton4ever Posts: 1,716
    I like the look of him as a player AND the way he conducts himself too. The tunnel jump makes me love him even more :)
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    I don’t see it yet .  Thought we were much better when JFC came on .  
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    Backwards step for him today, though the whole team were very poor in the final third.

    Would be interesting to see him alongside JFC. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,849
    wmcf123 said:
    I don’t see it yet .  Thought we were much better when JFC came on .  
    Even allowing for Covid, he's been underwhelming. You can see why he didn't play in the middle, his favoured position for Ipswich.
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,765
    edited April 2022
    Clearly still struggling IMO. He is a lot slower than I remember him being when playing against us. Have to wonder if there is something lingering there. Looks knackered after a 30 yard run.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    Callumcafc said:
    Clearly still struggling IMO. He is a lot slower than I remember him being when playing against us. Have to wonder if there is something lingering there. Looks knackered after a 30 yard run.
    It would therefore be kinder to leave him out for the rest of the season . 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,765
    wmcf123 said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Clearly still struggling IMO. He is a lot slower than I remember him being when playing against us. Have to wonder if there is something lingering there. Looks knackered after a 30 yard run.
    It would therefore be kinder to leave him out for the rest of the season . 
    Don’t disagree. You reminded me to post something about Stockley who is in a similar position.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,813
    If he’s struggling then don’t play him, for me he offers nothing at the moment and is totally anonymous, game just passes him by.

    couple of tidy passes here and there, but 10 yards sideways that anyone could make.

    Underwhelmed by him so far and would pick JFC over him every day. Prepared to give him a bit of time but he really needs to hit the ground running and impose himself next season 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,225
    Elthamaddick said:
    If he’s struggling then don’t play him, for me he offers nothing at the moment and is totally anonymous, game just passes him by.

    couple of tidy passes here and there, but 10 yards sideways that anyone could make.

    Underwhelmed by him so far and would pick JFC over him every day. Prepared to give him a bit of time but he really needs to hit the ground running and impose himself next season 
    What he said 

    Clare Dobson JFC is our best central midfield right now.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,149
     
    he must be the weakest Scotsman ever born .

    he does look like he has some silk about him but so far lameness is pouring out 
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    You can see he has very good touch and vision. He's never going to be your classic battling, ball winning midfielder but he adds a lot of quality and he'll be just fine when he gets back to full fitness. We've seen him play with much more energy and pace for MK when he was fit. I reckon a midfield of Dobbo, JFC and Fraser is a pretty good starting point for next season.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    He'd probably be a lot better if we gave him the ball. 
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    Yesterday he wasn’t at it but they marked him out the game quite well. Just when he did get the ball it wasn’t sticking, it was an off day.

    However, I don’t think we use him very well and often has to drop deep to get the ball, he’s not going to do anything on the halfway line with a serious lack of movement ahead of him.

    Think if he plays with Dobson and Forster-Caskey it will help. You’ll know what you’re getting with them two and will allow Fraser the freedom to roam and hurt opponents.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,849
    Davo55 said:
    You can see he has very good touch and vision. He's never going to be your classic battling, ball winning midfielder but he adds a lot of quality and he'll be just fine when he gets back to full fitness. We've seen him play with much more energy and pace for MK when he was fit. I reckon a midfield of Dobbo, JFC and Fraser is a pretty good starting point for next season.
    I know he HAS vision, but I saw precious little of it yesterday. JFC made far more incisive forward passes than Fraser did yesterday, the sort of defence splitting passes I was expecting from him, and which don't rely on fitness.

    Even Fraser's corners were nothing special.
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  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,171
    To be fair to Fraser no-one is very good in this system. The only players who stand out are Dobson, because his job is running, tackling and trying quite hard, and occasionally CBT because he's faster than third division fullbacks. We are a pedestrian side playing predictable football that Jackson has made abundantly clear to other teams we will never change. We'll happily line up with one recognised centre back in a back three in order to preserve the system, so teams know what we're doing every time we step out onto the pitch. We play a slow style with little cohesion between each line and if we don't break through immediately the team completely loses confidence. If we do get the early goal the team will switch off and invite the defenders to go full Chuckle Brothers until the opposition are back in it. We might magically figure it out next season with the right signings but we've been bad for a very long time now playing this way.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,448
    Jacksonised. 
  • jamiebcool
    jamiebcool Posts: 592
    Sage said:
    ...
    Think if he plays with Dobson and Forster-Caskey it will help. You’ll know what you’re getting with them two and will allow Fraser the freedom to roam and hurt opponents.
    I was thinking it might be a bit lopsided with two heavily left footed midfielders. JFC/Fraser both prefer left side of centre. Unless you have JFC holding, but that's Dobbo territory. Be interesting to see it. 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I ask myself what Fraser has added so far, so far it’s nothing.
    Or nothing more than, for example, Morgan would’ve added.
    Fraser and Gilbey simply hamper Dobson who might be able to give us more than doing everybody else’s donkey work if he had the chance.

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  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,312
    I would expect a strong manager to get the best of this player, unfortunately I don't think we have that. 
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    He’s not fully fit but this shape doesn’t suit him and we don’t give him the ball.

    very good player not being utilised at the moment
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Swisdom said:
    He’s not fully fit but this shape doesn’t suit him and we don’t give him the ball.

    very good player not being utilised at the moment
    Agree we don’t give him the ball but to say the shape doesn’t suit him isn’t true. He played in the same formation at MK Dons when he tore us apart and scored the winner. 

    He’s not going to improve in a 2 man midfield and you don’t want to play him too high up the pitch where we won’t see the range of his passing - Morgan wasn’t suited to playing as a 10 with that being one of the main reasons.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55067521


  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    Maybe he’s just not very good ?
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,149
    wmcf123 said:
    Maybe he’s just not very good ?
    Not having it,  any one who has had a good game against our shitty side is immediately class and we should sign and more so if there is a youtube video to boot 
    Just like any manager of the dog and & duck oppo who've torn us a new one in recent times is immediately the perfect replacement for our manager 

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