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Scott Fraser - pg 36 - left by mutual consent

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  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    edited March 2022
    Hard to judge him today due to how poor we were overall. Though he didn’t get stuck in to the extent that Lee did. 

    Let’s see what he does in a game when we are in control. 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    edited March 2022
    Kirk struggled in this team because he needs a lot of the ball, and as a team we don't keep the ball. I hope Fraser doesn't suffer the same fate. 
  • I think he will be good. Clearly has talent.

    Suffered from Covid quite bad and hasn't played much this season so will take a few games... Plus he needs better players around him.

    Decent acquisition
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,026
    I thought he looked quite good on the ball today, but was obviously ring-rusty. It didn't look like his awareness and anticipation were as good as they might be. Hoping this improves when he gets a game or two under his belt.
  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    Chunes said:
    Kirk struggled in this team because he needs a lot of the ball, and as a team we don't keep the ball. I hope Fraser doesn't suffer the same fate. 
    The fact he’s more central than Kirk played, you’d hope he’s more involved. He’ll go looking for the ball more.🤷🏻‍♂️
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    I think he’ll be a decent player.  I appreciate we’ve hardly seen much of him, but he looks comfortable with the ball.  The one or two touches for me today, plus seeing come on and get an assist at Bolton, makes me think we’ve got an upgrade on Gilbey and Lee
  • Kips
    Kips Posts: 689
    General opinion on his performance today? Clearly not match fit, but thought he showed some nice touches in the final third. Could see moment of quality but overall had a quiet day.
    Thats pretty much my assessment too. He hadn't played much prior to joining us let alone covid so today was just about getting some game time. Hopefully he'll find his touch and fitness in the coming weeks and start firing properly. His pass to slip Burstow in first half shows he has class.
  • smiffyboy
    smiffyboy Posts: 4,314
    he will he will never shine in this team when we don’t get the ball down n play with it, we bypass the midfield with our defence constantly going long when they get the ball.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    smiffyboy said:
    he will he will never shine in this team when we don’t get the ball down n play with it, we bypass the midfield with our defence constantly going long when they get the ball.
    Whether it was Llera, Morrison, Sarr, Pearce, Famewo etc we've been unsuccessfully punting it forward for years now. 

    I don't get why, as other than when we had Yann and Lyle it's never been particularly successful. 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    Better than Lee , but not that impressed yesterday .  I am not judging him on that display - I am sure he will her better .  
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  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    Even though he was seriously unfit, he showed more authority, composure and quality than most. He'll be a very good signing for us.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,001
    Signs of the player we were hoping for. Certainly not there yet but not 100% fit and playing in a team struggling for form/confidence which is not ideal.

    I am optimistic he's going to work out in the medium/long term. 
  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks Posts: 6,307
    edited March 2022
    Davo55 said:
    Even though he was seriously unfit, he showed more authority, composure and quality than most. He'll be a very good signing for us.
    That probably what impressed me the most. Obviously can’t hear what he was saying but his body language was much more demanding from team mates. Definitely wasn’t hiding out there and seems to be someone who demands the ball which is a huge bonus.

    Be interesting to see whether a midfield 3 of Dobson, Fraser and JFC would work.
  • Certainly a lot taller than I was expecting, looking a bit rusty as others have said, hope he will be a good addition, a good article on him in the match programme.
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,962
    Davo55 said:
    Even though he was seriously unfit, he showed more authority, composure and quality than most. He'll be a very good signing for us.
    That probably what impressed me the most. Obviously can’t hear what he was saying but his body language was much more demanding from team mates. Definitely wasn’t hiding out there and seems to be someone who demands the ball which is a huge bonus.

    Be interesting to see whether a midfield 3 of Dobson, Fraser and JFC would work.
    This. The look he gave to Jackson in the first half when he was in acres of space following their corner and McG didn't throw it to him. A case of being too intelligent for his team mates. 
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Davo55 said:
    Even though he was seriously unfit, he showed more authority, composure and quality than most. He'll be a very good signing for us.
    That probably what impressed me the most. Obviously can’t hear what he was saying but his body language was much more demanding from team mates. Definitely wasn’t hiding out there and seems to be someone who demands the ball which is a huge bonus.

    Be interesting to see whether a midfield 3 of Dobson, Fraser and JFC would work.
    While we are waiting for JFC it would be interesting to see what a Dobson, Fraser and Clair would do.
    In theory with Dobson and Clair being able to defend it could release Fraser to push up further. 
    I also think having two defensive midfielders would allow Jay to attack more and get some crosses in for Stockley. 
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    Was screaming for the ball in acres of space yesterday and getting so frustrated that he was overlooked when we went long and direct or tries to play it down the sides.

    He showed moments of quality and the pass in the first half to Burstow, who was offside, showed his vision and how he will get a lot of assists.

    We need to focus on getting the ball down and playing and getting players around him who are good on the ball. Hopefully that will happen in the summer and pre-season.

    Should be a really top player if we do that.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    Oh, and I think players like Washington will absolutely love playing with him. He’ll spot the runs he makes more than any other player we have, bar potentially Forster-Caskey.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,001
    Sage said:
    Oh, and I think players like Washington will absolutely love playing with him. He’ll spot the runs he makes more than any other player we have, bar potentially Forster-Caskey.
    He will definitely need the right kind of players around him to function at his best. The likes of Washington and possibly CBT making runs to pick out will be much appreciated compared to the style of Stockley or Aneke, though both have other strengths. 
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    I guess to get a high number of assists, you need players who can finish on a consistent basis. 
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  • Really impressed with him last night. Showed his class in individual moments. The cross to Gilbey at 0-0 probably should have led to a goal. Hoping he can stay fit for the remaining part of the season and build up a bond with Dobson.
  • He reminds me of a more dynamic Andrew Shinnie, especially in possession. One of those players who seem to have more time on the ball than others.

    I'm not holding my breath, as not sure I can see a pathway for our football style to change under the current coaching team, but if we used him effectively I think we could play some very nice stuff. 
  • Reminds a little of Andy Reid, wand of a left foot.
  • Jonniesta
    Jonniesta Posts: 1,153
    Seemed to drift out left a bit too much which meant he didn't get quite as much of the ball as I'd like, but his passing was the most effective of the whole team, the main difference being his were going forwards, between the press, opening up space. He has to be given a run in this team till the end of the season and I think we'll reap the rewards next year. That cross to Gilbey was a peach from that angle... once Stockley learns those are coming it could be great. Incidentally, would love to see Stockley hovering around the penalty spot rather than 6 yard box when crosses come in so he could attack them more when they come in. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    He reminds me of a more dynamic Andrew Shinnie, especially in possession. One of those players who seem to have more time on the ball than others.

    I'm not holding my breath, as not sure I can see a pathway for our football style to change under the current coaching team, but if we used him effectively I think we could play some very nice stuff. 
    That’s where we need to get recruitment right - more players with ability and composure on the ball.
  • He reminds me of a more dynamic Andrew Shinnie, especially in possession. One of those players who seem to have more time on the ball than others.

    I'm not holding my breath, as not sure I can see a pathway for our football style to change under the current coaching team, but if we used him effectively I think we could play some very nice stuff. 
    Think having CBT on the left will improve his performances. Gillingham decided to double up on CBT leaving Fraser with loads of space to operate in.
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,666
    Scoham said:
    He reminds me of a more dynamic Andrew Shinnie, especially in possession. One of those players who seem to have more time on the ball than others.

    I'm not holding my breath, as not sure I can see a pathway for our football style to change under the current coaching team, but if we used him effectively I think we could play some very nice stuff. 
    That’s where we need to get recruitment right - more players with ability and composure on the ball.
    Yes, when Fraser went off we started to look a lot more erratic on the ball, we lost our composure. 
  • Scoham said:
    He reminds me of a more dynamic Andrew Shinnie, especially in possession. One of those players who seem to have more time on the ball than others.

    I'm not holding my breath, as not sure I can see a pathway for our football style to change under the current coaching team, but if we used him effectively I think we could play some very nice stuff. 
    That’s where we need to get recruitment right - more players with ability and composure on the ball.
    The problem is, and I’m not saying we won’t do well at all, but even if we get better technical players in - I just can’t see us ever playing ‘good football’.

    I think we can be, and have indeed been in fits and starts, effective. On occasions we can press well, break down play well, and break quickly and effectively. Which ultimately, if you win, is all that matters.

    And sometimes (Portsmouth 1st half, Rotherham 2nd half) it’s very exciting to watch.

    Just even with more technical players, at the moment, I can’t see us reverting to a possession based style, or turning into a team that looks to play inbetween the lines and is comfortable building attacks from the back and not just when we turn over play in the middle of the park. 
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 2,973
    Fraserburgh looks unfit and slow 
    But when Lee replaced him we lost cohesion 
    Because he gave the ball away to frequently.
    His one positive was his headless energy.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    edited March 2022
    Scoham said:
    He reminds me of a more dynamic Andrew Shinnie, especially in possession. One of those players who seem to have more time on the ball than others.

    I'm not holding my breath, as not sure I can see a pathway for our football style to change under the current coaching team, but if we used him effectively I think we could play some very nice stuff. 
    That’s where we need to get recruitment right - more players with ability and composure on the ball.
    The problem is, and I’m not saying we won’t do well at all, but even if we get better technical players in - I just can’t see us ever playing ‘good football’.

    I think we can be, and have indeed been in fits and starts, effective. On occasions we can press well, break down play well, and break quickly and effectively. Which ultimately, if you win, is all that matters.

    And sometimes (Portsmouth 1st half, Rotherham 2nd half) it’s very exciting to watch.

    Just even with more technical players, at the moment, I can’t see us reverting to a possession based style, or turning into a team that looks to play inbetween the lines and is comfortable building attacks from the back and not just when we turn over play in the middle of the park. 
    Have to agree. In many ways we're still playing Bowyer ball. It's a low chance creation brand of football that doesn't play through the lines.