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Jayden Stockley (Ed. Page 12- 15/6 - SIGNED on permanent deal)
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Possible but we haven't been in for another forward.0
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I think the reason we pushed the boat out to bring Aneke in on a perm was that we knew there was a good chance Stockley was done for this season.mendonca said:Possible but we haven't been in for another forward.
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i saw him leaving the taining ground on Friday as i was walking up for the u23 game - really hope he is back soon so we can get a team together over the next few months that can hit the ground running next season0
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Needs to be more transparency on this, once the window shuts.His hip seemed to have zero impact on him
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Is the fact that we keep getting bad luck with injuries down to the fact we always beat Black Cats ?2
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My son was in a jacuzzi at David Lloyd in Sidcup talking to him last week. He said he was almost ready to return , expected to be back 2/3 weeks.15
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A few of the team are members there’s my mate spoke to Innis the other week.masicat said:My son was in a jacuzzi at David Lloyd in Sidcup talking to him last week. He said he was almost ready to return , expected to be back 2/3 weeks.0 -
Isn’t that where Tracey takes all the players who want to join a gym as we have some sort of deal ?BR7_addick said:
A few of the team are members there’s my mate spoke to Innis the other week.masicat said:My son was in a jacuzzi at David Lloyd in Sidcup talking to him last week. He said he was almost ready to return , expected to be back 2/3 weeks.3 -
That's the one. Quite a boring gym!0
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What does this mean?ElliotCAFC said:Needs to be more transparency on this, once the window shuts.His hip seemed to have zero impact on him
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He appeared to have no injury until he had an injury?Chunes said:
What does this mean?ElliotCAFC said:Needs to be more transparency on this, once the window shuts.His hip seemed to have zero impact on him
until it completely stopped him from playing or training. Hopefully he can get back before too long
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Worded poorly but I mean he’s been playing for years with no symptoms of a hip problem, let alone a serious one.Chunes said:
What does this mean?ElliotCAFC said:Needs to be more transparency on this, once the window shuts.His hip seemed to have zero impact on him
until it completely stopped him from playing or training. Hopefully he can get back before too longIt’s suddenly come along and he’s unable to train. It’s just a bit strange that it went from 0-100 almost instantly and we still haven’t had much insight into the issue.2 -
I'm not really getting what's strange about it... Isn't that how injuries work... You're OK and then you're notElliotCAFC said:
Worded poorly but I mean he’s been playing for years with no symptoms of a hip problem, let alone a serious one.Chunes said:
What does this mean?ElliotCAFC said:Needs to be more transparency on this, once the window shuts.His hip seemed to have zero impact on him
until it completely stopped him from playing or training. Hopefully he can get back before too longIt’s suddenly come along and he’s unable to train. It’s just a bit strange that it went from 0-100 almost instantly and we still haven’t had much insight into the issue.1 -
Yes, but this has been flagged as something that he’s been managing for a long time. I’m saying it’s a little odd that he’s gone from no symptoms of a long term hip injury to not being able to train at all.Chunes said:
I'm not really getting what's strange about it... Isn't that how injuries work... You're OK and then you're notElliotCAFC said:
Worded poorly but I mean he’s been playing for years with no symptoms of a hip problem, let alone a serious one.Chunes said:
What does this mean?ElliotCAFC said:Needs to be more transparency on this, once the window shuts.His hip seemed to have zero impact on him
until it completely stopped him from playing or training. Hopefully he can get back before too longIt’s suddenly come along and he’s unable to train. It’s just a bit strange that it went from 0-100 almost instantly and we still haven’t had much insight into the issue.0 -
don't think it's that uncommon to be honest. When I was 16 I got a knee injury, hobbled round for about 10 days and then carried on playing. About 6 months later I woke up in a load of pain, found out I'd been carrying a bad injury, had to have an op which ruled me out for about 4 months.ElliotCAFC said:
Yes, but this has been flagged as something that he’s been managing for a long time. I’m saying it’s a little odd that he’s gone from no symptoms of a long term hip injury to not being able to train at all.Chunes said:
I'm not really getting what's strange about it... Isn't that how injuries work... You're OK and then you're notElliotCAFC said:
Worded poorly but I mean he’s been playing for years with no symptoms of a hip problem, let alone a serious one.Chunes said:
What does this mean?ElliotCAFC said:Needs to be more transparency on this, once the window shuts.His hip seemed to have zero impact on him
until it completely stopped him from playing or training. Hopefully he can get back before too longIt’s suddenly come along and he’s unable to train. It’s just a bit strange that it went from 0-100 almost instantly and we still haven’t had much insight into the issue.1 -
That's how most chronic injuries occur. They start off as a minor nuisance and progress up to something so painful you can't even utilise the injured body part for small tasks.ElliotCAFC said:
Yes, but this has been flagged as something that he’s been managing for a long time. I’m saying it’s a little odd that he’s gone from no symptoms of a long term hip injury to not being able to train at all.Chunes said:
I'm not really getting what's strange about it... Isn't that how injuries work... You're OK and then you're notElliotCAFC said:
Worded poorly but I mean he’s been playing for years with no symptoms of a hip problem, let alone a serious one.Chunes said:
What does this mean?ElliotCAFC said:Needs to be more transparency on this, once the window shuts.His hip seemed to have zero impact on him
until it completely stopped him from playing or training. Hopefully he can get back before too longIt’s suddenly come along and he’s unable to train. It’s just a bit strange that it went from 0-100 almost instantly and we still haven’t had much insight into the issue.
It's possible he has hip bursitis, unusual in men but not shockingly so. That develops over time and progressively gets worse to the point that even moving your leg unloaded can be extremely painful. I'd assume we're trying to avoid going down the surgical path, but that may be what is required. It is very, very uncommon to need surgery so would be a terrible case if we do take that option.
There is a recently trialled surgery ongoing to remove the bursa and the recovery time isn't excessive. It was this article that made me consider if it's a bursa issue. https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-face-anxious-wait-to-see-if-jayden-stockley-responds-to-treatment-for-hip-issue/
It was previously suggested it could be a nerve issue, which would be harder to manage.2 -
p.s All assumptions based on the slithers of info.0
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Yeah, I’ve had a similar situation with my shoulder. I can envisage this situation with a civilian on the NHS, I’m just surprised a football club isn’t more proactive in these scenarios.cafcfan1990 said:
don't think it's that uncommon to be honest. When I was 16 I got a knee injury, hobbled round for about 10 days and then carried on playing. About 6 months later I woke up in a load of pain, found out I'd been carrying a bad injury, had to have an op which ruled me out for about 4 months.ElliotCAFC said:
Yes, but this has been flagged as something that he’s been managing for a long time. I’m saying it’s a little odd that he’s gone from no symptoms of a long term hip injury to not being able to train at all.Chunes said:
I'm not really getting what's strange about it... Isn't that how injuries work... You're OK and then you're notElliotCAFC said:
Worded poorly but I mean he’s been playing for years with no symptoms of a hip problem, let alone a serious one.Chunes said:
What does this mean?ElliotCAFC said:Needs to be more transparency on this, once the window shuts.His hip seemed to have zero impact on him
until it completely stopped him from playing or training. Hopefully he can get back before too longIt’s suddenly come along and he’s unable to train. It’s just a bit strange that it went from 0-100 almost instantly and we still haven’t had much insight into the issue.
They knew about it and seemingly left it until he broke down, which is where my surprise comes from.1 -
Potentially it's something that he initially thought was fairly minor (just an ache/recurring pain but a few aspirin and off he goes) but for whatever reason someone has looked a bit deeper and said it's actually something that needs to be sorted out before it causes severe problems later on.ElliotCAFC said:
Yes, but this has been flagged as something that he’s been managing for a long time. I’m saying it’s a little odd that he’s gone from no symptoms of a long term hip injury to not being able to train at all.Chunes said:
I'm not really getting what's strange about it... Isn't that how injuries work... You're OK and then you're notElliotCAFC said:
Worded poorly but I mean he’s been playing for years with no symptoms of a hip problem, let alone a serious one.Chunes said:
What does this mean?ElliotCAFC said:Needs to be more transparency on this, once the window shuts.His hip seemed to have zero impact on him
until it completely stopped him from playing or training. Hopefully he can get back before too longIt’s suddenly come along and he’s unable to train. It’s just a bit strange that it went from 0-100 almost instantly and we still haven’t had much insight into the issue.
Or maybe it's something you can keep dealing with on a day to day basis OR there's a permanent solution, but at the cost of a period of inactivity.
Both seem plausible enough to me.
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Or they engaged in preventative measures and it brokedown still. Without knowing the particulars it's probably best to not assume medical professionals allowed it to breakdown by just leaving it.ElliotCAFC said:
Yeah, I’ve had a similar situation with my shoulder. I can envisage this situation with a civilian on the NHS, I’m just surprised a football club isn’t more proactive in these scenarios.cafcfan1990 said:
don't think it's that uncommon to be honest. When I was 16 I got a knee injury, hobbled round for about 10 days and then carried on playing. About 6 months later I woke up in a load of pain, found out I'd been carrying a bad injury, had to have an op which ruled me out for about 4 months.ElliotCAFC said:
Yes, but this has been flagged as something that he’s been managing for a long time. I’m saying it’s a little odd that he’s gone from no symptoms of a long term hip injury to not being able to train at all.Chunes said:
I'm not really getting what's strange about it... Isn't that how injuries work... You're OK and then you're notElliotCAFC said:
Worded poorly but I mean he’s been playing for years with no symptoms of a hip problem, let alone a serious one.Chunes said:
What does this mean?ElliotCAFC said:Needs to be more transparency on this, once the window shuts.His hip seemed to have zero impact on him
until it completely stopped him from playing or training. Hopefully he can get back before too longIt’s suddenly come along and he’s unable to train. It’s just a bit strange that it went from 0-100 almost instantly and we still haven’t had much insight into the issue.
They knew about it and seemingly left it until he broke down, which is where my surprise comes from.1 -
thenewbie said:
Potentially it's something that he initially thought was fairly minor (just an ache/recurring pain but a few aspirin and off he goes) but for whatever reason someone has looked a bit deeper and said it's actually something that needs to be sorted out before it causes severe problems later on.ElliotCAFC said:
Yes, but this has been flagged as something that he’s been managing for a long time. I’m saying it’s a little odd that he’s gone from no symptoms of a long term hip injury to not being able to train at all.Chunes said:
I'm not really getting what's strange about it... Isn't that how injuries work... You're OK and then you're notElliotCAFC said:
Worded poorly but I mean he’s been playing for years with no symptoms of a hip problem, let alone a serious one.Chunes said:
What does this mean?ElliotCAFC said:Needs to be more transparency on this, once the window shuts.His hip seemed to have zero impact on him
until it completely stopped him from playing or training. Hopefully he can get back before too longIt’s suddenly come along and he’s unable to train. It’s just a bit strange that it went from 0-100 almost instantly and we still haven’t had much insight into the issue.
Or maybe it's something you can keep dealing with on a day to day basis OR there's a permanent solution, but at the cost of a period of inactivity.
Both seem plausible enough to me.
Yeah that’s very possible. Hopefully he’s back in a couple weeks and all of this is forgotten.Dazzler21 said:
Or they engaged in preventative measures and it brokedown still. Without knowing the particulars it's probably best to not assume medical professionals allowed it to breakdown by just leaving it.ElliotCAFC said:
Yeah, I’ve had a similar situation with my shoulder. I can envisage this situation with a civilian on the NHS, I’m just surprised a football club isn’t more proactive in these scenarios.cafcfan1990 said:
don't think it's that uncommon to be honest. When I was 16 I got a knee injury, hobbled round for about 10 days and then carried on playing. About 6 months later I woke up in a load of pain, found out I'd been carrying a bad injury, had to have an op which ruled me out for about 4 months.ElliotCAFC said:
Yes, but this has been flagged as something that he’s been managing for a long time. I’m saying it’s a little odd that he’s gone from no symptoms of a long term hip injury to not being able to train at all.Chunes said:
I'm not really getting what's strange about it... Isn't that how injuries work... You're OK and then you're notElliotCAFC said:
Worded poorly but I mean he’s been playing for years with no symptoms of a hip problem, let alone a serious one.Chunes said:
What does this mean?ElliotCAFC said:Needs to be more transparency on this, once the window shuts.His hip seemed to have zero impact on him
until it completely stopped him from playing or training. Hopefully he can get back before too longIt’s suddenly come along and he’s unable to train. It’s just a bit strange that it went from 0-100 almost instantly and we still haven’t had much insight into the issue.
They knew about it and seemingly left it until he broke down, which is where my surprise comes from.0 -
DOUCHER said:i saw him leaving the taining ground on Friday as i was walking up for the u23 game - really hope he is back soon so we can get a team together over the next few months that can hit the ground running next season
@DOUCHER you have risen up the ITK charts this season, did you notice if Jayden had an invalid sticker on his car window?
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Save the internet diagnosis, just get a day pass to David Lloyd and ask him in the hot tub!5
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Yeah, me too. My shoulder functions normally but there was a trapped tendon and tendonitis.ElliotCAFC said:
Yeah, I’ve had a similar situation with my shoulder. I can envisage this situation with a civilian on the NHS, I’m just surprised a football club isn’t more proactive in these scenarios.cafcfan1990 said:
don't think it's that uncommon to be honest. When I was 16 I got a knee injury, hobbled round for about 10 days and then carried on playing. About 6 months later I woke up in a load of pain, found out I'd been carrying a bad injury, had to have an op which ruled me out for about 4 months.ElliotCAFC said:
Yes, but this has been flagged as something that he’s been managing for a long time. I’m saying it’s a little odd that he’s gone from no symptoms of a long term hip injury to not being able to train at all.Chunes said:
I'm not really getting what's strange about it... Isn't that how injuries work... You're OK and then you're notElliotCAFC said:
Worded poorly but I mean he’s been playing for years with no symptoms of a hip problem, let alone a serious one.Chunes said:
What does this mean?ElliotCAFC said:Needs to be more transparency on this, once the window shuts.His hip seemed to have zero impact on him
until it completely stopped him from playing or training. Hopefully he can get back before too longIt’s suddenly come along and he’s unable to train. It’s just a bit strange that it went from 0-100 almost instantly and we still haven’t had much insight into the issue.
They knew about it and seemingly left it until he broke down, which is where my surprise comes from.
It was a niggle that suddenly escalated into pain. The pain can be unbearable, especially at night.
If Stockley has had a similar reaction but with his hip, he may have still been able to train or even play - but only in pain.
Even if he could play, he couldn't be expected to play in pain and risk further actual damage.
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Jayden was the guest on David Earl and Joe Wilkinson's podcast (My New Football Club) this week. Came out today but was recorded the day after Hartlepool.He explained that he had been playing with a back problem for about a month and it finally become too much to manage with tablets.Apparently he has two slipped discs which are pinching a nerve and causing a hip issue. He said he thought he was (hopefully) about a month away, but it could be longer.Has been treated with an epidural.The pod is well worth a listen, he is an excellent guest and extremely intelligent.The focus was more on his time at Exeter, but still some great discussions.10
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There was a reason we were seeing an aggy Stockley....managing an injury against forceful defenders usually suggests so.
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Waiting for us to be safe from relegation and announce we have decided to rest him for the remaining part of the season.0
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Am I imagining it, or back in the day was Mendonca getting some hip/hamstring problems which he played through for a while and they eventually tracked down to being a back issue?Seem to remember it being the beginning of the end for Mendonca as injuries took their toll. Hopefully the available treatments have advanced over the last 20 years,.1
