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Charlton Only - January 2022 Transfer Rumours (Deadline Day p.97)

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  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,335
    DOUCHER said:
    i think its clear that watson and morgan don't feature in jacko's plans (which is good) and would expect them to be gone at the end of the season so another midfielder, although not as critical as a striker or two, is definitely required 
    Agree.
    Especially if he can score a few goals and take a decent free kick.
  • Bournesnr
    Bournesnr Posts: 296
    I agree some positions need more urgent attention than others, with regard to new signings but if a player is available and better than what you already have, for example in midfield, then you’d be silly not to sign him surely.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,728
    Bournesnr said:
    I agree some positions need more urgent attention than others, with regard to new signings but if a player is available and better than what you already have, for example in midfield, then you’d be silly not to sign him surely.
    Thats exactly how it works - After endless explanations from Gallen, am surprised that people dont understand that by now - If we sign someone at Right-Back first, doesn't mean to say we're not looking for players in other positions
  • TEL
    TEL Posts: 10,100
    DOUCHER said:
    i think its clear that watson and morgan don't feature in jacko's plans (which is good) and would expect them to be gone at the end of the season so another midfielder, although not as critical as a striker or two, is definitely required 
    I wouldnt be surprised if Watson gets a coaching role with us though.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,418
    Not sure there would be room for Watson and Pearce in coaching roles?
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,323
    Dippenhall said:
    DICKIE PLUMB said:
    i really don’t understand why there is this obsession with waiting until the window is about to ‘slam’ shut before doing any business. I get that some clubs might be reluctant to sell and are practicing brinkmanship but money talks and the number of games any new players are missing during the window could be critical. 
    Ipswich did a lot of talking pre season - that went well didn’t it. 
    Not being turned over when you negotiate a deal is hardly an obsession. 
    Fans are experts at talking and how to spend the owner’s money but thankfully someone else is in control.
    They've got a hell of a lot better squad than us and will be promoted before us. 
  • Addick_8
    Addick_8 Posts: 687
    J BLOCK said:
    Dippenhall said:
    DICKIE PLUMB said:
    i really don’t understand why there is this obsession with waiting until the window is about to ‘slam’ shut before doing any business. I get that some clubs might be reluctant to sell and are practicing brinkmanship but money talks and the number of games any new players are missing during the window could be critical. 
    Ipswich did a lot of talking pre season - that went well didn’t it. 
    Not being turned over when you negotiate a deal is hardly an obsession. 
    Fans are experts at talking and how to spend the owner’s money but thankfully someone else is in control.
    They've got a hell of a lot better squad than us and will be promoted before us. 
    Based on what?
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,342
    mendonca said:
    Not sure there would be room for Watson and Pearce in coaching roles?
    Watson can and probably will go back to Palace as a coach, it's nice and local, he's seen in a good light there as he came through the youth ranks, and with the new academy training ground they've built I'm sure they'll need a lot of coaches in and around the place. 

    Pearce will 100% stay on here as a coach, start with one of the unders like Euell did and see how he does
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,892
    we are light on coaches, maybe there is room for both?

    although I think what Sam said above is realistic. I think Pearce will get an academy
    role 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,728
    edited January 2022
    sam3110 said:
    mendonca said:
    Not sure there would be room for Watson and Pearce in coaching roles?
    Watson can and probably will go back to Palace as a coach, it's nice and local, he's seen in a good light there as he came through the youth ranks, and with the new academy training ground they've built I'm sure they'll need a lot of coaches in and around the place. 

    Pearce will 100% stay on here as a coach, start with one of the unders like Euell did and see how he does
    Pearce is already a coach for the U15s

    Seem to recall him talking recently about working with Deji Elerewe when he was at that level

    https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jason-pearce-433081185

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  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,190
    Balogun has joined Middlesborough which should free up Uche Ikpeazu for loan
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    sam3110 said:
    mendonca said:
    Not sure there would be room for Watson and Pearce in coaching roles?
    Watson can and probably will go back to Palace as a coach, it's nice and local, he's seen in a good light there as he came through the youth ranks, and with the new academy training ground they've built I'm sure they'll need a lot of coaches in and around the place. 

    Pearce will 100% stay on here as a coach, start with one of the unders like Euell did and see how he does
    Watson will either stay with us, possibly as an over aged u23, or go to Bromley as player coach.  A lot with him and Pearce is if they want to play or not, you can't really blame them can you. 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    One piece of advice frequently given to footballers is ‘play as long as you can’.
    To me that makes for example Charlie McDonald and Kevin Lisbie amongst the cooler dudes.
    Mostly you’re a long time retired from playing. 
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,553
    mendonca said:
    Not sure there would be room for Watson and Pearce in coaching roles?
    I think part of TS plan for a Category One academy is to utilise more ex players as youth coaches. I imagine it’s a cheaper option and it gives them a place to learn their craft while they’re doing their badges - as well as bending the rules a bit for our bid. 
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,323
    Addick_8 said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Dippenhall said:
    DICKIE PLUMB said:
    i really don’t understand why there is this obsession with waiting until the window is about to ‘slam’ shut before doing any business. I get that some clubs might be reluctant to sell and are practicing brinkmanship but money talks and the number of games any new players are missing during the window could be critical. 
    Ipswich did a lot of talking pre season - that went well didn’t it. 
    Not being turned over when you negotiate a deal is hardly an obsession. 
    Fans are experts at talking and how to spend the owner’s money but thankfully someone else is in control.
    They've got a hell of a lot better squad than us and will be promoted before us. 
    Based on what?
    Based on the fact they have a ton of money to invest into their team. Whilst not getting it right last summer, they will keep investing until they do 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    addick1956 said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    addick1956 said:
    king addick said:
    https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/charlton-athletic-hold-interest-in-crystal-palace-midfielder/
    Great another midfielder . Just what we need of course. 
    Who is currently our 4th choice center mid? JFK soon, Morgan, Kirk , CB-T all in the middle or edges if the middle. Up front sod all.
    So you want to play CBT and Kirk in the center of midfield 😳😳
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,440
    J BLOCK said:
    Addick_8 said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Dippenhall said:
    DICKIE PLUMB said:
    i really don’t understand why there is this obsession with waiting until the window is about to ‘slam’ shut before doing any business. I get that some clubs might be reluctant to sell and are practicing brinkmanship but money talks and the number of games any new players are missing during the window could be critical. 
    Ipswich did a lot of talking pre season - that went well didn’t it. 
    Not being turned over when you negotiate a deal is hardly an obsession. 
    Fans are experts at talking and how to spend the owner’s money but thankfully someone else is in control.
    They've got a hell of a lot better squad than us and will be promoted before us. 
    Based on what?
    Based on the fact they have a ton of money to invest into their team. Whilst not getting it right last summer, they will keep investing until they do 
    Are you writing off our chances of getting it right in the summmer?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,960
    ElliotCAFC said:
    mendonca said:
    Not sure there would be room for Watson and Pearce in coaching roles?
    I think part of TS plan for a Category One academy is to utilise more ex players as youth coaches. I imagine it’s a cheaper option and it gives them a place to learn their craft while they’re doing their badges - as well as bending the rules a bit for our bid. 
    Would ex players be cheaper anyway? I can't imagine someone who's been coaching kids since his 20s would want more wages than an ex PL player like Watson
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,323
    Scoham said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Addick_8 said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Dippenhall said:
    DICKIE PLUMB said:
    i really don’t understand why there is this obsession with waiting until the window is about to ‘slam’ shut before doing any business. I get that some clubs might be reluctant to sell and are practicing brinkmanship but money talks and the number of games any new players are missing during the window could be critical. 
    Ipswich did a lot of talking pre season - that went well didn’t it. 
    Not being turned over when you negotiate a deal is hardly an obsession. 
    Fans are experts at talking and how to spend the owner’s money but thankfully someone else is in control.
    They've got a hell of a lot better squad than us and will be promoted before us. 
    Based on what?
    Based on the fact they have a ton of money to invest into their team. Whilst not getting it right last summer, they will keep investing until they do 
    Are you writing off our chances of getting it right in the summmer?
    Not necessarily under JJ as I think he will have a Bowyer type pull about him for players, but with money in their rockets, it's only a matter of time before Ipswich get out of this pony league. We also have a lot of work to do in the summer. 
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,553
    edited January 2022
    killerandflash said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    mendonca said:
    Not sure there would be room for Watson and Pearce in coaching roles?
    I think part of TS plan for a Category One academy is to utilise more ex players as youth coaches. I imagine it’s a cheaper option and it gives them a place to learn their craft while they’re doing their badges - as well as bending the rules a bit for our bid. 
    Would ex players be cheaper anyway? I can't imagine someone who's been coaching kids since his 20s would want more wages than an ex PL player like Watson
    I’m assuming someone with 5+ years coaching experience, specialising with certain age groups will be more expensive to recruit and retain than current players going into their first season of being a coach. 

    The recruitment aspect is usually the biggest cost and ball ache - which is circumnavigated when hiring internally. 

    Ben Watson the coach will be on a drastically different wage to Ben Watson the player.

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  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Scoham said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Addick_8 said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Dippenhall said:
    DICKIE PLUMB said:
    i really don’t understand why there is this obsession with waiting until the window is about to ‘slam’ shut before doing any business. I get that some clubs might be reluctant to sell and are practicing brinkmanship but money talks and the number of games any new players are missing during the window could be critical. 
    Ipswich did a lot of talking pre season - that went well didn’t it. 
    Not being turned over when you negotiate a deal is hardly an obsession. 
    Fans are experts at talking and how to spend the owner’s money but thankfully someone else is in control.
    They've got a hell of a lot better squad than us and will be promoted before us. 
    Based on what?
    Based on the fact they have a ton of money to invest into their team. Whilst not getting it right last summer, they will keep investing until they do 
    Are you writing off our chances of getting it right in the summmer?
    Do we ever get it right, last time was Chris Powell’s squad that walked the title 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    eaststandmike said:
    Scoham said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Addick_8 said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Dippenhall said:
    DICKIE PLUMB said:
    i really don’t understand why there is this obsession with waiting until the window is about to ‘slam’ shut before doing any business. I get that some clubs might be reluctant to sell and are practicing brinkmanship but money talks and the number of games any new players are missing during the window could be critical. 
    Ipswich did a lot of talking pre season - that went well didn’t it. 
    Not being turned over when you negotiate a deal is hardly an obsession. 
    Fans are experts at talking and how to spend the owner’s money but thankfully someone else is in control.
    They've got a hell of a lot better squad than us and will be promoted before us. 
    Based on what?
    Based on the fact they have a ton of money to invest into their team. Whilst not getting it right last summer, they will keep investing until they do 
    Are you writing off our chances of getting it right in the summmer?
    Do we ever get it right, last time was Chris Powell’s squad that walked the title 
    Got it right under Bowyer a few years ago too. Cullen, Pratley, Bielik and Taylor were all superb signings. Steer was solid enough first half of that season and was getting better before recalled. Squad was a little light because of Roland but Purrington was a game changing signing in the Jan. Parker divides opinion but couldn’t have done much better with the budget available. Jamie Ward was probably about the only signing that overall was a failure. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,725
    Scoham said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Addick_8 said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Dippenhall said:
    DICKIE PLUMB said:
    i really don’t understand why there is this obsession with waiting until the window is about to ‘slam’ shut before doing any business. I get that some clubs might be reluctant to sell and are practicing brinkmanship but money talks and the number of games any new players are missing during the window could be critical. 
    Ipswich did a lot of talking pre season - that went well didn’t it. 
    Not being turned over when you negotiate a deal is hardly an obsession. 
    Fans are experts at talking and how to spend the owner’s money but thankfully someone else is in control.
    They've got a hell of a lot better squad than us and will be promoted before us. 
    Based on what?
    Based on the fact they have a ton of money to invest into their team. Whilst not getting it right last summer, they will keep investing until they do 
    Are you writing off our chances of getting it right in the summmer?
    Based on previous transfer windows......Yes.
  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks Posts: 6,308
    We definitely enquired about the Palace kid. First hand information that we’ve been in contact with them and made a loan offer.

    Our offer was declined, never told the reason why it was declined, but it was rejected. Will wait to hear whether we go back in for him.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    golfaddick said:
    Scoham said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Addick_8 said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Dippenhall said:
    DICKIE PLUMB said:
    i really don’t understand why there is this obsession with waiting until the window is about to ‘slam’ shut before doing any business. I get that some clubs might be reluctant to sell and are practicing brinkmanship but money talks and the number of games any new players are missing during the window could be critical. 
    Ipswich did a lot of talking pre season - that went well didn’t it. 
    Not being turned over when you negotiate a deal is hardly an obsession. 
    Fans are experts at talking and how to spend the owner’s money but thankfully someone else is in control.
    They've got a hell of a lot better squad than us and will be promoted before us. 
    Based on what?
    Based on the fact they have a ton of money to invest into their team. Whilst not getting it right last summer, they will keep investing until they do 
    Are you writing off our chances of getting it right in the summmer?
    Based on previous transfer windows......Yes.
    Based on the last 3 transfer windows we will end up with good players but not necessarily what we need. 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    I think I’ll just refer to him as Arm Flex 
  • Maccn05
    Maccn05 Posts: 967
    What a name that is!
  • Maccn05
    Maccn05 Posts: 967
    As of last month he'd scored  14 goals in 15 games for the u-23s so far this season. But likely shows our plans for the window a couple of risky young loans. Lets hope this one comes off!
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,829
    Talented player. Would be shocked if he drops to L1 level.

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