Managerial sackings, comings and goings

paulie8290 said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Cafc43v3r said:

thenewbie said:

ForeverAddickted said:

thenewbie said:

ForeverAddickted said:

charltonman2016 said:

Ryan Lowe set to become Preston manager. 

He deserves it, not just saying so it cripples Plymouth

Has done very well for the most part in his Managerial reign so far

Be interesting to see if he can carry on his impressive work at Plymouth to another team. Another team in a higher division ins completely different part of the country will be a big adjustment for him. 

Not to downplay his achievements but if you look at the likes of Eddie Howe sometimes a great manager for one club doesn't always mean great manager at another. 

Dont forget Lowe had that success at Bury as well

Effectively won promotion in back to back seasons with Bury and Plymouth.

He did very well at a player in the Manchester / Liverpool area (more so than elsewhere) so is certainly going back home to an extent - Wonder if that too is going to be a bit of a lure as well for him.

That is true, certainly I would be surprised if he doesn't do well at Preston but its definitely a gamble in terms of his career. He does well, he's jumped straight into contention for other Championship jobs and maybe beyond, if it does go wrong he risks being seen as a "lower league manager."

We will hopefully see a new generation of managers coming through in the likes of Lowe and Jackson that will eventually lead to the end of the likes of Bruce being appointed purely on name recognition. 

Bruce's record at Newcastle was almost identical to Raffa's one is a hero, one isn't. 

There is always a young generation of managers coming through Jackson is 10 years younger than Pep, who is 10 years younger than Bruce.  Klopp is the same age as Adkins, as to is Wilder. 

I know our 4 most successful managers of the modern age were young, first timers, but it was hardly by design.  Certainly in 3 of those cases.

Far to much is made about age of managers and being yesterdays man. 

Newcastle fans love Rafa because he stuck with them in the championship, got them to 10th in his first season back up, and then had them playing good football the following season. In the second half of the 18-19 season Newcastle were 6th top scorers. And he did it all on a net spend of practically zero. He left because he'd had enough of Mike Ashley and said (pretty accurately) that Ashley didn't care about the club.

Steve Bruce spent over 100m, played turgid football and took them backwards. 

That's why one is loved, and one is seen as a disaster.

Pretty sure Rafa spent over £100m in his 3 years in charge as well

There is no denying their fans were against Bruce from the start and made it almost impossible for him to succeed.

He could have won the league and they would have moaned it wasn't by enough points 

I'm referring to net spend.

Benitez
16/17 - +36m
17/18 - -25m
18/19 - -8m
Net spend of 3m

Bruce
19/20 - -37m
20/21 - -38m
21/22 - -29m
Net spend of 104m

Ipswich Town have appointed Manchester United assistant first-team coach Kieran McKenna as their new manager.

Chunes said:

That's a strange appointment from Ipswich. You throw a ton of money at the team to sign a bunch of all-stars but then pick up a completely unproven manager?

McKenna walks into that Ipswich dressing room with zero experience as the boss, having had no playing career to back him up... And he's supposed to turn it around with a clearly miserable group of players. Where is his authority with that group coming from. 

It is bit of a gamble, but it’s great to see teams going for younger managers rather than dinosaurs like Allardyce, Hughes, Adkins and co.
Mckenna is well thought of as well. 

Fleetwood Town are delighted to confirm the appointment of Stephen Crainey as Head Coach until the end of the season following a successful spell as interim.
https://www.fleetwoodtownfc.com/news/2021/december/crainey-announcement/

Cafc43v3r said:

killerandflash said:

ricky_otto said:

Chunes said:

That's a strange appointment from Ipswich. You throw a ton of money at the team to sign a bunch of all-stars but then pick up a completely unproven manager?

McKenna walks into that Ipswich dressing room with zero experience as the boss, having had no playing career to back him up... And he's supposed to turn it around with a clearly miserable group of players. Where is his authority with that group coming from. 

It is bit of a gamble, but it’s great to see teams going for younger managers rather than dinosaurs like Allardyce, Hughes, Adkins and co.
Mckenna is well thought of as well. 

There are very few experienced managers now in L1, the likes of Steve Evans, Karl Robinson and Steve Cotterill are the exception

And people forget how young Karl Robinson is be his only 2 years older than Jacko and younger than Bowyer.  I think he was only 35 stone when he got the job with us. 

Edited it for you

How many Managers could/would survive a run of 14 matches (5 draws and 9 defeats) without a win that resulted in a team dropping into the relegation zone?

At that time Mansfield were facing exit from the Football League. To be fair to their Board, they stuck with Nigel Clough - and since then they have won 9 of their last 10 games, resulting in them currently sitting just 4 points off the Play Offs

It's not always the right decision to sack a Manager. One can't help believing though, that someone new to the job would have been out the door a long time before. And that person might never have got the opportunity to manage again

ricky_otto said:

paulie8290 said:

https://twitter.com/ShrimpsOfficial/status/1474341587488366596?t=UjnyAXV8rZhj0OVvHlejJQ&s=19

Nice time to sack a manager on Christmas Eve 


Their boxing day game has already been called off as well, could have at least given him till Monday then sacked him

Assistant Manager.

Oh yeah, helps if you read it properly first 🤦‍♂️

Todds_right_hook said:

Sacking the assistant and keeping the manager is a strange one. First thought was that maybe he has got a lower league managers job, but why not say so. 

Perhaps he has been up to no good.

paulie8290 said:

ricky_otto said:

paulie8290 said:

https://twitter.com/ShrimpsOfficial/status/1474341587488366596?t=UjnyAXV8rZhj0OVvHlejJQ&s=19

Nice time to sack a manager on Christmas Eve 


Their boxing day game has already been called off as well, could have at least given him till Monday then sacked him

Assistant Manager.

Oh yeah, helps if you read it properly first 🤦‍♂️

I made the same mistake as well at first - Had to read it a few time as couldnt understand why Morecambe would sack their Manager when they've only just dropped into the relegation zone for the first time this season.

They've really been punching above their weight, another side never to have been relegated.

Lincsaddick said:

Nigel Person at Bristol City must be close to the edge ..  unless Lansdown is too sacred to sack him ((:>)

They just beat Millwall 3-2 so he'll be ok for now.

Steve Evans sacked at Gillingham - not before time either!