Premier League 21/22

Off_it said:

I see the old VAR thread doesn't even get an outing these days. Ridiculous decision after ridiculous decision and we all now just shrug our shoulders and have to accept it.

Still, it's nice that the referees don't make so many obvious errors these days ...... so the pro-VAR disciples must be happy.

(I'll give it a while before the old "It's not VAR that's the problem" line gets trotted out)

Surely it isn't VAR itself that is the issue though, it's the absolute fools who are running it.

If everyone watching the game on tv can see an incident, how can the clowns in the VAR room not see it? 

Mainly their fans from the Peoples Republic of Scouseland.

Spent their life bunking in thinking they have a divine right to be in a football ground whenever their teams play. It's happened for donkeys years and the tragedy as it was, they were still partially to blame for Hillsborough, where of course it was mainly the innocents who suffered.

JohnBoyUK said:

7) They conveniently forget JFT39 and getting all the other English teams banned from European Competition for 5 years.

8) Its NEVER their fault

How teams react to a new manager. Tottenham under Conté are having a go, they are getting 'stuck in', no more an easy touch for the 'harder' teams in the Prem .. and about time that Liverpool had a few VAR decisions go against them .. I hope that the Man Cittteeeehh luvvies soon start to get the rougher end of the VAR regimes decisions

lordromford said:

philcafc said:

Can't believe how bad Liverpool have been defensively today. They won't get anywhere near City based on this.

Completely agree, but at the same time their individual players are streets ahead of spurs. Control, skill, pressing has all been superior. Spurs have just been able to turn their defence around too much. Not that I’m complaining. Can’t stand Liverpool.

Thats a fair assessment.

We've been lining up 3-4-3 from the start but yesterday forced into a 5-3-2.  But there's no doubt there's a gulf in quality between the two sides.  I have to admit, seeing the line up and the middle 3 of Dombers - Winks - Dele had me absolutely crapping my pants beforehand, thinking oh for the love of god we're going to get taken to the cleaners, I'd absolutely snap your hands off for a draw but it could be 5, 6 or even more...

But this is Conte's Spurs now.  The back 3 of Dier, Sanchez and Davies look reasonably solid.  They are certainly much more organised and well drilled now.  I've got to be fair to them, my thoughts on Winks and Dele are well known, I think they both should have been shifted out by now but yesterday both showed exactly what they can do.  They both worked their b*ll*cks off, and most importantly, they both looked to drive forwards.  Dele looked hungry.  He looked like he wanted it.  I havent seen that from him since before he signed his big contract.  We pressed on a trigger.  Haven't had that since Poch.  Sessegnon looks like the left-sided player we thought we bought from Fulham.  He proved he can defend yesterday and against other opposition, he will get forward more too.  

That game yesterday showed the dilemma of Dombers.  Going forward, he can pick a pass with the best of them, he can hold the ball, he brings others into the game.  You would want him in the team.  But from a defending point of view, on the right of a midfield three, his lack of Conte's desired fitness levels, it puts additional pressure on the RWB and Right-sided CB.  He certainly put in a shift yesterday.

We are moving in the right direction.  Being kicked out of Europe will help massively, so we can concentrate on finishing as high up the league now as possible and hopefully but a cup run together.

SELR_addicks said:

https://twitter.com/LukeEdwardsTele/status/1472908642252902400

Think their time may be better spent focusing on their abysmal defending. They look an absolute carbon-copy of the Bournemouth team which was relegated under Howe, decent attacking wise but defend like their on a playground.

Funny how suddenly everyone’s up in arms about refereeing the moment Liverpool are on the wrong end of a decision.

JohnBoyUK said:

lordromford said:

Funny how suddenly everyone’s up in arms about refereeing the moment Liverpool are on the wrong end of a decision.

#prayforliverpool

Funny how you watch a game, I got have sworn the main decisions (apart from the Kane red) went against Spurs yesterday.  Winks got bundled over, should have been a pen... even the Dele pen with Trent AA's both hands in his back before he went down I thought was more a pen that the one on Jiota at the other end, the handball which led directly to their second goal.

If the FA have got some balls, they should be writing to Klopp for his comments before charging him for bringing the game into disrepute.

Go back a couple of seasons, when Poch had his meltdown against Burnley went Sonny and Foyth were sent off, Poch ended up with a touchline ban for what he said afterwards.  What Klopp said yesterday directly to the ref yesterday was worse so its only right he gets the same treatment but you know full well the FA let him off with absolutely everything.  Remember when he literally ran on to the centre circle celebrating a last min Merseyside derby winner?  As its him, he gets away with showing passion.  If that was Conte yesterday, he'd get charged.

I just think its absolutely despicable that Klopp gets away with so much.  

To be clear, I agree on the game yesterday. I think the Robertson/Kane red card argument could be said to have gone against them, but they’re hardly the worst decisions of the year. The hooha that’s suddenly arisen because poor Jurgen hasn’t got his way for once is pathetic. I quite liked him when he first came to England, but he’s just another spoilt entitled scouse whinger now. 

Tierney was also the referee for Liverpool v City back in October when Milner kicked lumps out of Foden and, for some reason, didn’t get sent off.

Selective memory Jurgen.

Still some bad decisions yesterday though.

I see that Pep has now said that Foden and Grealish were dropped for the Newcastle game (although admittedly only to the bench) after both players went out clubbing after City's midweek thrashing of Leeds.

Technically i guess there's no rules to stop players going out, but pretty irresponsible that they were out in a club in a week where covid cases have gone through the roof.

JohnBoyUK said:

lordromford said:

Funny how suddenly everyone’s up in arms about refereeing the moment Liverpool are on the wrong end of a decision.

#prayforliverpool

Funny how you watch a game, I got have sworn the main decisions (apart from the Kane red) went against Spurs yesterday.  Winks got bundled over, should have been a pen... even the Dele pen with Trent AA's both hands in his back before he went down I thought was more a pen that the one on Jiota at the other end, the handball which led directly to their second goal.

If the FA have got some balls, they should be writing to Klopp for his comments before charging him for bringing the game into disrepute.

Go back a couple of seasons, when Poch had his meltdown against Burnley went Sonny and Foyth were sent off, Poch ended up with a touchline ban for what he said afterwards.  What Klopp said yesterday directly to the ref yesterday was worse so its only right he gets the same treatment but you know full well the FA let him off with absolutely everything.  Remember when he literally ran on to the centre circle celebrating a last min Merseyside derby winner?  As its him, he gets away with showing passion.  If that was Conte yesterday, he'd get charged.

I just think its absolutely despicable that Klopp gets away with so much.  

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11669/12500735/jurgen-klopp-liverpool-manager-wont-face-action-for-referee-comments-after-spurs-draw

Who didnt see that coming? Any other manager gets hauled over the coals for it yet he gets away with it AGAIN.

Andyessgee90 said:

Zaha sent off for palace. Merry Christmas everybody! 🙂

Glad the floodgates sre opening.

Another boring game involving City. Went 4-0 up after 25 minutes and that was the half time score. Leicester pull it back to 4-3 within 20 minutes of the re-start. Now 5-3, And eight different scorers too which doesn't happen too often either.

killerandflash said:

It's as if they've kept the same number of goals there should have been today, and spread them out amongst fewer games!

6-3 to City now

21 in the 4 games so far