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Those of us who work on Crossrail know how much of a complex project it is.clive said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXGWKcoGynM
Crossrail Chief Executive Mark Wild gives an update on latest progress, including handover of shafts & portals to TfL. Our focus is to start intensive operational testing known as Trial Running, at the earliest opportunity in 2021.3 -
And how much money has been mismanaged and wasted on crap decisionsSark99 said:
Those of us who work on Crossrail know how much of a complex project it is.clive said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXGWKcoGynM
Crossrail Chief Executive Mark Wild gives an update on latest progress, including handover of shafts & portals to TfL. Our focus is to start intensive operational testing known as Trial Running, at the earliest opportunity in 2021.3 -
Lots. Oh, and Mark Wild is a bellend. Have met him and had many interactions with him and he's properly up his own shit-pipe.cafc999 said:
And how much money has been mismanaged and wasted on crap decisionsSark99 said:
Those of us who work on Crossrail know how much of a complex project it is.clive said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXGWKcoGynM
Crossrail Chief Executive Mark Wild gives an update on latest progress, including handover of shafts & portals to TfL. Our focus is to start intensive operational testing known as Trial Running, at the earliest opportunity in 2021.
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cafc999 said:
And how much money has been mismanaged and wasted on crap decisionsSark99 said:
Those of us who work on Crossrail know how much of a complex project it is.clive said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXGWKcoGynM
Crossrail Chief Executive Mark Wild gives an update on latest progress, including handover of shafts & portals to TfL. Our focus is to start intensive operational testing known as Trial Running, at the earliest opportunity in 2021.
Sounds like CAFC in the last 10 yearscafc999 said:
And how much money has been mismanaged and wasted on crap decisionsSark99 said:
Those of us who work on Crossrail know how much of a complex project it is.clive said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXGWKcoGynM
Crossrail Chief Executive Mark Wild gives an update on latest progress, including handover of shafts & portals to TfL. Our focus is to start intensive operational testing known as Trial Running, at the earliest opportunity in 2021.0 -
No doubt, but I would imagine Charlton figures are a drop in the ocean compared to CrossrailSark99 said:cafc999 said:
And how much money has been mismanaged and wasted on crap decisionsSark99 said:
Those of us who work on Crossrail know how much of a complex project it is.clive said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXGWKcoGynM
Crossrail Chief Executive Mark Wild gives an update on latest progress, including handover of shafts & portals to TfL. Our focus is to start intensive operational testing known as Trial Running, at the earliest opportunity in 2021.
Sounds like CAFC in the last 10 yearscafc999 said:
And how much money has been mismanaged and wasted on crap decisionsSark99 said:
Those of us who work on Crossrail know how much of a complex project it is.clive said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXGWKcoGynM
Crossrail Chief Executive Mark Wild gives an update on latest progress, including handover of shafts & portals to TfL. Our focus is to start intensive operational testing known as Trial Running, at the earliest opportunity in 2021.0 -
Rumour has it that the delay is due to having the destination screens displayed in 15 different languages0
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The whole Olympic Park wasn't handed to West Ham, the Stadium was, but not the massive regeneration of that part of London. But don't let fact get in the way of a rantaddick1956 said:
£12 billion wasted on a place that ended up being given away to West Ham and running costs partly moved to the residents of Newham.stevexreeve said:I thought the received wisdom was that we were very good at this sort of thing!
After all we managed to put on the 2012 Olympics for only £12 billion pounds and all on time! We even had a quarter of a billion left over to build a new stadium for the 'ammers!
The Olympics is way to expensive and way too big in that there are sports that have their own World Stage competitions like Football, etc.
Ask Brazil. It caused holes in social spending that exist today. And it had the World cup which made things even more expensive.10 -
You're still going on about the stadium and the stadium alone, not the park, velodrome, hockey centre, copper box, not the massive investment in housing, or environmental improvements, or the jobs at Here East/Westfield, or cleaning up a load of waste.addick1956 said:
I know it wasn't. IMHO it was a big waste of money that could have filled the Social Care hole we still face.Rothko said:
The whole Olympic Park wasn't handed to West Ham, the Stadium was, but not the massive regeneration of that part of London. But don't let fact get in the way of a rantaddick1956 said:
£12 billion wasted on a place that ended up being given away to West Ham and running costs partly moved to the residents of Newham.stevexreeve said:I thought the received wisdom was that we were very good at this sort of thing!
After all we managed to put on the 2012 Olympics for only £12 billion pounds and all on time! We even had a quarter of a billion left over to build a new stadium for the 'ammers!
The Olympics is way to expensive and way too big in that there are sports that have their own World Stage competitions like Football, etc.
Ask Brazil. It caused holes in social spending that exist today. And it had the World cup which made things even more expensive.
The legacy promised is laughable. Plus if you have been to a match at the Olympic Stadium you will know far one has to treck from public transport and just how torturous a treck out via the traffic lights and stop signs and myriads of stewards required to stop jams at pinch points. An absolute nightmare only to end up at the Stratford shopping centre at 5.25 with all the shoppers going home.
Thst is a rant ! Saying it was £12 billion wasted was not.
£12bn investment in that part of London, which included improving public transport will pay back in plenty in time.7 -
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addick1956 said:
I know it wasn't. IMHO it was a big waste of money that could have filled the Social Care hole we still face.Rothko said:
The whole Olympic Park wasn't handed to West Ham, the Stadium was, but not the massive regeneration of that part of London. But don't let fact get in the way of a rantaddick1956 said:
£12 billion wasted on a place that ended up being given away to West Ham and running costs partly moved to the residents of Newham.stevexreeve said:I thought the received wisdom was that we were very good at this sort of thing!
After all we managed to put on the 2012 Olympics for only £12 billion pounds and all on time! We even had a quarter of a billion left over to build a new stadium for the 'ammers!
The Olympics is way to expensive and way too big in that there are sports that have their own World Stage competitions like Football, etc.
Ask Brazil. It caused holes in social spending that exist today. And it had the World cup which made things even more expensive.
The legacy promised is laughable. Plus if you have been to a match at the Olympic Stadium you will know far one has to treck from public transport and just how torturous a treck out via the traffic lights and stop signs and myriads of stewards required to stop jams at pinch points. An absolute nightmare only to end up at the Stratford shopping centre at 5.25 with all the shoppers going home.
Thst is a rant ! Saying it was £12 billion wasted was not.
Unusual for you.
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Never let the truth get in the way of a rant. The legacy left behind by the 2012 Olympics has, IMHO, been fantastic (Apart from West Ham having the stadium for nowt)Rothko said:
You're still going on about the stadium and the stadium alone, not the park, velodrome, hockey centre, copper box, not the massive investment in housing, or environmental improvements, or the jobs at Here East/Westfield, or cleaning up a load of waste.addick1956 said:
I know it wasn't. IMHO it was a big waste of money that could have filled the Social Care hole we still face.Rothko said:
The whole Olympic Park wasn't handed to West Ham, the Stadium was, but not the massive regeneration of that part of London. But don't let fact get in the way of a rantaddick1956 said:
£12 billion wasted on a place that ended up being given away to West Ham and running costs partly moved to the residents of Newham.stevexreeve said:I thought the received wisdom was that we were very good at this sort of thing!
After all we managed to put on the 2012 Olympics for only £12 billion pounds and all on time! We even had a quarter of a billion left over to build a new stadium for the 'ammers!
The Olympics is way to expensive and way too big in that there are sports that have their own World Stage competitions like Football, etc.
Ask Brazil. It caused holes in social spending that exist today. And it had the World cup which made things even more expensive.
The legacy promised is laughable. Plus if you have been to a match at the Olympic Stadium you will know far one has to treck from public transport and just how torturous a treck out via the traffic lights and stop signs and myriads of stewards required to stop jams at pinch points. An absolute nightmare only to end up at the Stratford shopping centre at 5.25 with all the shoppers going home.
Thst is a rant ! Saying it was £12 billion wasted was not.
£12bn investment in that part of London, which included improving public transport will pay back in plenty in time.10 -
Some of the areas in and around stratford have been utterly transformed from 15 years ago.Rothko said:
You're still going on about the stadium and the stadium alone, not the park, velodrome, hockey centre, copper box, not the massive investment in housing, or environmental improvements, or the jobs at Here East/Westfield, or cleaning up a load of waste.addick1956 said:
I know it wasn't. IMHO it was a big waste of money that could have filled the Social Care hole we still face.Rothko said:
The whole Olympic Park wasn't handed to West Ham, the Stadium was, but not the massive regeneration of that part of London. But don't let fact get in the way of a rantaddick1956 said:
£12 billion wasted on a place that ended up being given away to West Ham and running costs partly moved to the residents of Newham.stevexreeve said:I thought the received wisdom was that we were very good at this sort of thing!
After all we managed to put on the 2012 Olympics for only £12 billion pounds and all on time! We even had a quarter of a billion left over to build a new stadium for the 'ammers!
The Olympics is way to expensive and way too big in that there are sports that have their own World Stage competitions like Football, etc.
Ask Brazil. It caused holes in social spending that exist today. And it had the World cup which made things even more expensive.
The legacy promised is laughable. Plus if you have been to a match at the Olympic Stadium you will know far one has to treck from public transport and just how torturous a treck out via the traffic lights and stop signs and myriads of stewards required to stop jams at pinch points. An absolute nightmare only to end up at the Stratford shopping centre at 5.25 with all the shoppers going home.
Thst is a rant ! Saying it was £12 billion wasted was not.
£12bn investment in that part of London, which included improving public transport will pay back in plenty in time.Crossrail is a fantastic project terribly executed, we need much more high speed rail connections all over the country. I think I said it before in this thread but we need more crossrail type projects not less.9 -
Man who doesn't live in area completely transformed by the regeneration in 'what a waste of money' shocker...5
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsYJgxRLDiURailway Progress: Woolwich Elizabeth line station (July 2021)
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Stratford will come good!

You either have direct govt finance greasing the rails for private development to step in, as in Stratford and CW. Or you let private money do what they want as in Nine Elms/Battersea. The quality of the architecture is subjective of course but either way something does get built rather than acres and acres of 50 year old post industrial dereliction that local councils have not got a hope of financing improvements themselves historically.
Complete sea change in attitude towards affordable housing needed, but i will not hold my breath while the market is king. London is huge and they will keep building. Knights Dragon have land banked a chunk of the Greenwich Peninsular, that they should be forced to build, part buy/shared ownership.
Anyway, have we signed anyone else?
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A full Crossrail timetable will not be in operation until May 2023, the Public Accounts Committee has been told.
However, it heard the first section between Abbey Wood and Paddington should open between February and June.
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February and June 2032, sorry 2022 that isclive said:A full Crossrail timetable will not be in operation until May 2023, the Public Accounts Committee has been told.
However, it heard the first section between Abbey Wood and Paddington should open between February and June.
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Unbelievable. Even with the pandemic, it’s terrible how late Crossrail is to be operational.1
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I’m convinced the hyperloop will be in service in no time.stoneroses19 said:Unbelievable. Even with the pandemic, it’s terrible how late Crossrail is to be operational.3 -
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I saw a crossrail train leaving abbey wood today. (Pictures to follow)
Then this report in today's Guardian. Nearly there now..
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/nov/22/start-of-final-crossrail-trials-in-london-raises-hope-of-early-2022-opening
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I’m assuming they’ve been overwhelmed with volunteer passenger requests from Charlton fans 😉swords_alive said:I saw a crossrail train leaving abbey wood today. (Pictures to follow)
Then this report in today's Guardian. Nearly there now..
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/nov/22/start-of-final-crossrail-trials-in-london-raises-hope-of-early-2022-opening4 -
I just don't understand why anyone would want to get to Abbey Wood faster.12
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Ah - but surely you can also leave Abbey Wood faster!Wheresmeticket? said:I just don't understand why anyone would want to get to Abbey Wood faster.9 -
But you can understand why they would want to get away from there faster, I trust 😉Wheresmeticket? said:I just don't understand why anyone would want to get to Abbey Wood faster.1 -
Bastardo- beat me to it !!bobmunro said:
Ah - but surely you can also leave Abbey Wood faster!Wheresmeticket? said:I just don't understand why anyone would want to get to Abbey Wood faster.2 -
You snooze, you lose!Lordflashheart said:
Bastardo- beat me to it !!bobmunro said:
Ah - but surely you can also leave Abbey Wood faster!Wheresmeticket? said:I just don't understand why anyone would want to get to Abbey Wood faster.0 -
Gonna knock 40 minutes off my commute, so quicker out of Abbey Wood works well for me
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bobmunro said:
Ah - but surely you can also leave Abbey Wood faster!Wheresmeticket? said:I just don't understand why anyone would want to get to Abbey Wood faster.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXZ2BEthYEcProgress Update (November 2021)
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