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Managerial sackings, comings and goings
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Think I saw that he's on 999 games in management and the game against Spurs next week was going to bring up the big 1000.
Given the career he has had both playing and in management you'd have to assume he is reasonably well off and I suspect reaching that milestone probably means more to him than any kind of pay off. Be nice if the new owners let him reach it before getting rid but be surprised if they do.
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Phil Brown sacked by Southend after a 4 nil defeat at home to Chesterfield. An unusual statistic is that Brown has now managed in each of the top 5 divisions of English football.
Quite where he goes after this s*** sandwich i dont know.0 -
He's from the north east, so NewcastleKips said:Phil Brown sacked by Southend after a 4 nil defeat at home to Chesterfield. An unusual statistic is that Brown has now managed in each of the top 5 divisions of English football.
Quite where he goes after this s*** sandwich i dont know.
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Probably the local tanning shop.Kips said:Phil Brown sacked by Southend after a 4 nil defeat at home to Chesterfield. An unusual statistic is that Brown has now managed in each of the top 5 divisions of English football.
Quite where he goes after this s*** sandwich i dont know.6 -
He's also been sacked in all 5 divisions.Kips said:Phil Brown sacked by Southend after a 4 nil defeat at home to Chesterfield. An unusual statistic is that Brown has now managed in each of the top 5 divisions of English football.
Quite where he goes after this s*** sandwich i dont know.
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Great stat Scoham.
I bet there are not many other managers with similar on their CV, especially in the prem league era. Peter Taylor perhaps...1 -
I often wonder with managers like Phil Brown, where do they actually go now?Scoham said:
He's also been sacked in all 5 divisions.Kips said:Phil Brown sacked by Southend after a 4 nil defeat at home to Chesterfield. An unusual statistic is that Brown has now managed in each of the top 5 divisions of English football.
Quite where he goes after this s*** sandwich i dont know.
He's probably made a decent living out of the game and earned more than the average Joe but people tend to live within the parameters of what they earn, I imagine he earned decent money at Hull City but I also imagine he wasn't living in a 2-bed semi and driving a Nissan either.
He's now been sacked from a few jobs and leaves Southend near the bottom of the national league, what does he go and do now? Surely there can't be many football league clubs willing to take a punt, he strikes me as someone who wants to be a manager not a coach, and he's not really high profile enough to get a media gig anywhere.
It does highlight the perilous nature of football sometimes. Weird example but I remember when Lee Clark was managing Huddersfield and went something like 50 games unbeaten and was being linked to every Premier League job going, a few years later he was managing Blyth Spartans in the National League North. I just had a quick look to see if he was still there and turns out he has recently resigned as managed of a team in Sudan....
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That is the short term nature of managing any football team. The average time of a manager of a pro football team in England is something like 18 months. Back in the 1960s it was four years. The demand for instant success and immediate "reward" for failure has made it the most perilous of jobs.Notts_Addick said:
I often wonder with managers like Phil Brown, where do they actually go now?Scoham said:
He's also been sacked in all 5 divisions.Kips said:Phil Brown sacked by Southend after a 4 nil defeat at home to Chesterfield. An unusual statistic is that Brown has now managed in each of the top 5 divisions of English football.
Quite where he goes after this s*** sandwich i dont know.
He's probably made a decent living out of the game and earned more than the average Joe but people tend to live within the parameters of what they earn, I imagine he earned decent money at Hull City but I also imagine he wasn't living in a 2-bed semi and driving a Nissan either.
He's now been sacked from a few jobs and leaves Southend near the bottom of the national league, what does he go and do now? Surely there can't be many football league clubs willing to take a punt, he strikes me as someone who wants to be a manager not a coach, and he's not really high profile enough to get a media gig anywhere.
It does highlight the perilous nature of football sometimes. Weird example but I remember when Lee Clark was managing Huddersfield and went something like 50 games unbeaten and was being linked to every Premier League job going, a few years later he was managing Blyth Spartans in the National League North. I just had a quick look to see if he was still there and turns out he has recently resigned as managed of a team in Sudan....
Which is why I would like us to give Adkins a little more time. What happens when our next Manager goes half a dozen games without winning? Do we sack him too and start again?0 -
No because we do not have a history of sacking managers after half a dozen games.Addick Addict said:
That is the short term nature of managing any football team. The average time of a manager of a pro football team in England is something like 18 months. Back in the 1960s it was four years. The demand for instant success and immediate "reward" for failure has made it the most perilous of jobs.Notts_Addick said:
I often wonder with managers like Phil Brown, where do they actually go now?Scoham said:
He's also been sacked in all 5 divisions.Kips said:Phil Brown sacked by Southend after a 4 nil defeat at home to Chesterfield. An unusual statistic is that Brown has now managed in each of the top 5 divisions of English football.
Quite where he goes after this s*** sandwich i dont know.
He's probably made a decent living out of the game and earned more than the average Joe but people tend to live within the parameters of what they earn, I imagine he earned decent money at Hull City but I also imagine he wasn't living in a 2-bed semi and driving a Nissan either.
He's now been sacked from a few jobs and leaves Southend near the bottom of the national league, what does he go and do now? Surely there can't be many football league clubs willing to take a punt, he strikes me as someone who wants to be a manager not a coach, and he's not really high profile enough to get a media gig anywhere.
It does highlight the perilous nature of football sometimes. Weird example but I remember when Lee Clark was managing Huddersfield and went something like 50 games unbeaten and was being linked to every Premier League job going, a few years later he was managing Blyth Spartans in the National League North. I just had a quick look to see if he was still there and turns out he has recently resigned as managed of a team in Sudan....
Which is why I would like us to give Adkins a little more time. What happens when our next Manager goes half a dozen games without winning? Do we sack him too and start again?
fans were calling for bowyers head but TS didn’t sack him. Fans have been calling for Adkins head but TS hasn’t sacked him.1 -
And another one....Chris Beech sacked by Carlisle United.
This has been coming, albeit a case of what might have been. They were top of L2 around Xmas 2020. They then had 9 games postponed in 43 days and barely played in jan 2021. They lost their way trying to play catch up and ended up finishing mid table.
This season only 2 wins leaves them 22nd.0 - Sponsored links:
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I didn't say "after half a dozen games" but "goes half as dozen games without winning". Some posters on here definitely started to call for Adkins head, if not before, then following the defeat against Cheltenham which was our 6th League game of the season.Todds_right_hook said:
No because we do not have a history of sacking managers after half a dozen games.Addick Addict said:
That is the short term nature of managing any football team. The average time of a manager of a pro football team in England is something like 18 months. Back in the 1960s it was four years. The demand for instant success and immediate "reward" for failure has made it the most perilous of jobs.Notts_Addick said:
I often wonder with managers like Phil Brown, where do they actually go now?Scoham said:
He's also been sacked in all 5 divisions.Kips said:Phil Brown sacked by Southend after a 4 nil defeat at home to Chesterfield. An unusual statistic is that Brown has now managed in each of the top 5 divisions of English football.
Quite where he goes after this s*** sandwich i dont know.
He's probably made a decent living out of the game and earned more than the average Joe but people tend to live within the parameters of what they earn, I imagine he earned decent money at Hull City but I also imagine he wasn't living in a 2-bed semi and driving a Nissan either.
He's now been sacked from a few jobs and leaves Southend near the bottom of the national league, what does he go and do now? Surely there can't be many football league clubs willing to take a punt, he strikes me as someone who wants to be a manager not a coach, and he's not really high profile enough to get a media gig anywhere.
It does highlight the perilous nature of football sometimes. Weird example but I remember when Lee Clark was managing Huddersfield and went something like 50 games unbeaten and was being linked to every Premier League job going, a few years later he was managing Blyth Spartans in the National League North. I just had a quick look to see if he was still there and turns out he has recently resigned as managed of a team in Sudan....
Which is why I would like us to give Adkins a little more time. What happens when our next Manager goes half a dozen games without winning? Do we sack him too and start again?
fans were calling for bowyers head but TS didn’t sack him. Fans have been calling for Adkins head but TS hasn’t sacked him.
In the 86 year period between 1920 and 2006 we had 17 Managers. In the last 15 years we've had 14 permanent appointments. That doesn't smack of a club, in recent times, who have earned a reputation for sticking with their Managers and that stat only serves to support my assertion above - that clubs, us included, pull the trigger far quicker than we once did.
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We can't afford Carlisle to go down, we need them back up in L1 asap, so that we can clinch promotion there!Kips said:And another one....Chris Beech sacked by Carlisle United.
This has been coming, albeit a case of what might have been. They were top of L2 around Xmas 2020. They then had 9 games postponed in 43 days and barely played in jan 2021. They lost their way trying to play catch up and ended up finishing mid table.
This season only 2 wins leaves them 22nd.
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Quote by the late Bill Shankly from the biographical film 'The Three Kings' .. 'there is only one job more precarious and dangerous than that of a football club manager, that's being employed as a Glasgow debt collector'0
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It looks like Bruce has survived an immediate sacking and will reach his 1000th game this weekend
You imagine he'll get presented with a commemorative vase or trophy before the game, and his P45 after it!1 -
6th loss in 7 games for Birmingham. Bowyer could be moving on soon enough0
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Ooo there has been a sacking somewhere.
Its shockingly.... at Newcastle - Steve Bruce has been sacked!!0 -
Steve Bruce has left Newcastle by mutual consent:I was very tempted to start a new "Managerial Departure" thread, but I figured half of you would hunt me down for getting your hopes up.1
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Come on the Saudis, pay us £10m compensation and take Adkins 3
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Bruce going was inevitable but I like that they gave him his 1000th game before doing it0
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Don't give Thomas ideas, Nigel has got 429 games to go to reach 1000. We could be playing in the Greenwich pub leagues by the time he reaches that landmark!MrOneLung said:Bruce going was inevitable but I like that they gave him his 1000th game before doing it6 - Sponsored links:
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I hope Newcastle go down. Their fans treatment of Bruce was fairly horrible. Thought he did alright keeping them up7
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Do you think the owners could afford it?SELR_addicks said:2 -
And give their current owners etc, it would be very funny.siblers said:I hope Newcastle go down. Their treatment of Bruce was fairly horrible.2 -
He did horrible. First, in the last three transfer windows they were net-spenders to the tune of £125M and yet they have gotten worse. Second, Bruce now has the worst all-time PL managerial record for anyone with 100 matches under their belt. Third, his win rate the last 50 matches is 18%. Ouch! Finally, now that they are the richest club in the world, they need to step up and get a much better name. Bruce never would have made it this long anywhere else with his poor results. He is at best a Championship talent as manager.siblers said:I hope Newcastle go down. Their fans treatment of Bruce was fairly horrible. Thought he did alright keeping them up0 -
Do you think Bruce had any control over transfers?NapaAddick said:
He did horrible. First, in the last three transfer windows they were net-spenders to the tune of £125M and yet they have gotten worse. Second, Bruce now has the worst all-time PL managerial record for anyone with 1000 matches under their belt. Third, his win rate the last 50 matches is 18%. Ouch! Finally, now that they are the richest club in the world, they need to step up and get a much better name. Bruce never would have made it this long anywhere else with his poor results. He is at best a Championship talent as manager.siblers said:I hope Newcastle go down. Their fans treatment of Bruce was fairly horrible. Thought he did alright keeping them up
Players like Joelinton for £40m means that their net spend is completely hopeless as they just buy terrible players.0 -
And this right here is why i cant stand all the crap around Newcastle atm.NapaAddick said:
He did horrible. First, in the last three transfer windows they were net-spenders to the tune of £125M and yet they have gotten worse. Second, Bruce now has the worst all-time PL managerial record for anyone with 1000 matches under their belt. Third, his win rate the last 50 matches is 18%. Ouch! Finally, now that they are the richest club in the world, they need to step up and get a much better name. Bruce never would have made it this long anywhere else with his poor results. He is at best a Championship talent as manager.siblers said:I hope Newcastle go down. Their fans treatment of Bruce was fairly horrible. Thought he did alright keeping them up
The media and there fans saying they have been through hell under Ashley these past few years and deserve this takeover to finally get there club back
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Mate there are a few clubs fans in that bracket. Man U fans at the moment moaning because they didnt sign a midfielder in the window ! Ffs they are all entitled twatspaulie8290 said:
And this right here is why i cant stand all the crap around Newcastle atm.NapaAddick said:
He did horrible. First, in the last three transfer windows they were net-spenders to the tune of £125M and yet they have gotten worse. Second, Bruce now has the worst all-time PL managerial record for anyone with 1000 matches under their belt. Third, his win rate the last 50 matches is 18%. Ouch! Finally, now that they are the richest club in the world, they need to step up and get a much better name. Bruce never would have made it this long anywhere else with his poor results. He is at best a Championship talent as manager.siblers said:I hope Newcastle go down. Their fans treatment of Bruce was fairly horrible. Thought he did alright keeping them up
The media and there fans saying they have been through hell under Ashley these past few years and deserve this takeover to finally get there club back
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But what part of this screams out 40m player?SELR_addicks said:
Do you think Bruce had any control over transfers?NapaAddick said:
He did horrible. First, in the last three transfer windows they were net-spenders to the tune of £125M and yet they have gotten worse. Second, Bruce now has the worst all-time PL managerial record for anyone with 1000 matches under their belt. Third, his win rate the last 50 matches is 18%. Ouch! Finally, now that they are the richest club in the world, they need to step up and get a much better name. Bruce never would have made it this long anywhere else with his poor results. He is at best a Championship talent as manager.siblers said:I hope Newcastle go down. Their fans treatment of Bruce was fairly horrible. Thought he did alright keeping them up
Players like Joelinton for £40m means that their net spend is completely hopeless as they just buy terrible players.
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This is my issue with football nowadays. I was listening to someone on the radio describing how Newcastle were seen as an attractive investment mainly because their financial results over the last 3 years meant new owners could come in and lose £150 million and still not fall foul of financial fair play.paulie8290 said:
And this right here is why i cant stand all the crap around Newcastle atm.NapaAddick said:
He did horrible. First, in the last three transfer windows they were net-spenders to the tune of £125M and yet they have gotten worse. Second, Bruce now has the worst all-time PL managerial record for anyone with 1000 matches under their belt. Third, his win rate the last 50 matches is 18%. Ouch! Finally, now that they are the richest club in the world, they need to step up and get a much better name. Bruce never would have made it this long anywhere else with his poor results. He is at best a Championship talent as manager.siblers said:I hope Newcastle go down. Their fans treatment of Bruce was fairly horrible. Thought he did alright keeping them up
The media and there fans saying they have been through hell under Ashley these past few years and deserve this takeover to finally get there club back
Its hardly like Ashley hasnt been spending money
The issue with that is for Newcastle owners that figure will be a drop in the ocean as it might for a few other owners. But then fans of other clubs with less wealthy (in football terms) owners then see Newcastle spending and want their owners to do the same. Owners then either risk the future of the club satisfying fans impatience for instant success by spending money they can't afford to keep up with those clubs, or they have their fans protesting and moaning about how they lack 'ambition' because they've only spent £50 million in the window and Newcastle spent £100 million.
Newcastle lost £54 million pounds last year, in any business you can understand why the owner wants to cut costs when you are bleeding that amount of money. If I owned a business losing anywhere near that amount of money I would be penny pinching as well. I'm not a Newcastle fan but I don't buy into all this stuff about how hard done to they've been, the owner has kept them afloat and they have had Premier league football for the vast majority of his time there. When they've been relegated he has put his hand in his pocket and got them straight back up. I'm only in my twenties but I don't ever remember a time when Newcastle have been particularly successful regardless of who has owned them or how much money they've spent. Has he been any less successful than any of their previous owners?
I know it's all relative but fans of Bury, Macclesfield etc no longer have a club to support. It kinds of puts things into perspective that no matter how hard done to fans feel at least we all have clubs to support.
I've posted before on the Derby thread, I live fairly nearby to Derby and know a few fans. I can tell you for a fact that every single one of them absolutely loved their owner when he was splashing the cash, they were constantly telling me what a genius he was for selling the stadium, bringing in Lamps, Rooney etc. It is only once he appears to have run out of money that they all now describe him as 'reckless'. Before it was 'ambition'.4
