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Managerial sackings, comings and goings
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Mediocrity in the same division season after season is actually pretty boring reallyNotts_Addick said:
This is my issue with football nowadays. I was listening to someone on the radio describing how Newcastle were seen as an attractive investment mainly because their financial results over the last 3 years meant new owners could come in and lose £150 million and still not fall foul of financial fair play.paulie8290 said:
And this right here is why i cant stand all the crap around Newcastle atm.NapaAddick said:
He did horrible. First, in the last three transfer windows they were net-spenders to the tune of £125M and yet they have gotten worse. Second, Bruce now has the worst all-time PL managerial record for anyone with 1000 matches under their belt. Third, his win rate the last 50 matches is 18%. Ouch! Finally, now that they are the richest club in the world, they need to step up and get a much better name. Bruce never would have made it this long anywhere else with his poor results. He is at best a Championship talent as manager.siblers said:I hope Newcastle go down. Their fans treatment of Bruce was fairly horrible. Thought he did alright keeping them up
The media and there fans saying they have been through hell under Ashley these past few years and deserve this takeover to finally get there club back
Its hardly like Ashley hasnt been spending money
The issue with that is for Newcastle owners that figure will be a drop in the ocean as it might for a few other owners. But then fans of other clubs with less wealthy (in football terms) owners then see Newcastle spending and want their owners to do the same. Owners then either risk the future of the club satisfying fans impatience for instant success by spending money they can't afford to keep up with those clubs, or they have their fans protesting and moaning about how they lack 'ambition' because they've only spent £50 million in the window and Newcastle spent £100 million.
Newcastle lost £54 million pounds last year, in any business you can understand why the owner wants to cut costs when you are bleeding that amount of money. If I owned a business losing anywhere near that amount of money I would be penny pinching as well. I'm not a Newcastle fan but I don't buy into all this stuff about how hard done to they've been, the owner has kept them afloat and they have had Premier league football for the vast majority of his time there. When they've been relegated he has put his hand in his pocket and got them straight back up. I'm only in my twenties but I don't ever remember a time when Newcastle have been particularly successful regardless of who has owned them or how much money they've spent. Has he been any less successful than any of their previous owners?
I know it's all relative but fans of Bury, Macclesfield etc no longer have a club to support. It kinds of puts things into perspective that no matter how hard done to fans feel at least we all have clubs to support.
I've posted before on the Derby thread, I live fairly nearby to Derby and know a few fans. I can tell you for a fact that every single one of them absolutely loved their owner when he was splashing the cash, they were constantly telling me what a genius he was for selling the stadium, bringing in Lamps, Rooney etc. It is only once he appears to have run out of money that they all now describe him as 'reckless'. Before it was 'ambition'.
The old football structure before the money became a permanent divide was healthier in some ways, as smaller clubs could win the old first division or FA Cup without spending a fortune, while big clubs could get relegated without financial ruin. It made the top flight much more fluid and less predictable
Therefore you didn't get clubs spending 10 years in the PL between 11th and 16th, which after a while does become monotonous. Or clubs like Norwich, Fulham, Watford and WBA who alternate promotion and relegation seasons - having been here 2 seasons ago, are Norwich fans really enjoying a season of being rubbish in the PL?2 -
NapaAddick said:
He did horrible. First, in the last three transfer windows they were net-spenders to the tune of £125M and yet they have gotten worse. Second, Bruce now has the worst all-time PL managerial record for anyone with 100 matches under their belt. Third, his win rate the last 50 matches is 18%. Ouch! Finally, now that they are the richest club in the world, they need to step up and get a much better name. Bruce never would have made it this long anywhere else with his poor results. He is at best a Championship talent as manager.siblers said:I hope Newcastle go down. Their fans treatment of Bruce was fairly horrible. Thought he did alright keeping them up
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Chris_from_Sidcup said:NapaAddick said:
He did horrible. First, in the last three transfer windows they were net-spenders to the tune of £125M and yet they have gotten worse. Second, Bruce now has the worst all-time PL managerial record for anyone with 100 matches under their belt. Third, his win rate the last 50 matches is 18%. Ouch! Finally, now that they are the richest club in the world, they need to step up and get a much better name. Bruce never would have made it this long anywhere else with his poor results. He is at best a Championship talent as manager.siblers said:I hope Newcastle go down. Their fans treatment of Bruce was fairly horrible. Thought he did alright keeping them up
The average net spend under his 13-year reign is probably the lowest in the EPL. In fact, take out the last two summer windows and he was a net seller for 12 years. Also, he spent nothing on their dilapidated training ground, which is one of the worst in the EPL and he had a habit of forcing out managers the fans liked and bringing in ones they hate. Good riddance. God forbid he becomes our next owner, somehow.
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">Addick Addict said:You are, without a doubt, one of the most gentle people that I have ever met in the world of football. You have been a man of your word, a caring man and a fair man who never hesitated to protect us. I will never forget how you treated me, for that I will be forever grateful
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Are there any "He's not gonna shag you mate" type replies?1 -
Adkins gone0
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Who did Atkins manage?Dansk_Red said:Atkins gone1 -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58964233
Newport appointed Cardiff City's first team coach James Rowberry as their manager (he started at Newport)
Yet another of the new generation of managers who had no real playing career, and instead spent their 20s in coaching before working their way up1 -
Mick McCarthy has left Cardiff0
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I know he's ex-Millwall but I wouldn't mind him if Jacko doesn't work out. At least he's local.ForeverAddickted said:Mick McCarthy has left Cardiff.
And I know that Cardiff have just lost 8 on the bounce.....2 - Sponsored links:
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Mansfield lost again and now in the bottom 2killerandflash said:
We can't afford Carlisle to go down, we need them back up in L1 asap, so that we can clinch promotion there!Kips said:And another one....Chris Beech sacked by Carlisle United.
This has been coming, albeit a case of what might have been. They were top of L2 around Xmas 2020. They then had 9 games postponed in 43 days and barely played in jan 2021. They lost their way trying to play catch up and ended up finishing mid table.
This season only 2 wins leaves them 22nd.
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Seen a few rumours that apparently Neil Harris is in contention to return to Cardiff City. Apparently he is still on the payroll there from his first sacking so would make financial sense if nothing else.golfaddick said:
I know he's ex-Millwall but I wouldn't mind him if Jacko doesn't work out. At least he's local.ForeverAddickted said:Mick McCarthy has left Cardiff.
And I know that Cardiff have just lost 8 on the bounce.....3 -
I thought their next manager was sitting in the stands in midweek.....and it wasn't Harris.Notts_Addick said:
Seen a few rumours that apparently Neil Harris is in contention to return to Cardiff City. Apparently he is still on the payroll there from his first sacking so would make financial sense if nothing else.golfaddick said:
I know he's ex-Millwall but I wouldn't mind him if Jacko doesn't work out. At least he's local.ForeverAddickted said:Mick McCarthy has left Cardiff.
And I know that Cardiff have just lost 8 on the bounce.....1 -
Chris Wilder was there for Fulham v Cardiffgolfaddick said:
I thought their next manager was sitting in the stands in midweek.....and it wasn't Harris.Notts_Addick said:
Seen a few rumours that apparently Neil Harris is in contention to return to Cardiff City. Apparently he is still on the payroll there from his first sacking so would make financial sense if nothing else.golfaddick said:
I know he's ex-Millwall but I wouldn't mind him if Jacko doesn't work out. At least he's local.ForeverAddickted said:Mick McCarthy has left Cardiff.
And I know that Cardiff have just lost 8 on the bounce.....0 -
Would be Adkins 2.0. If Adkins is a dinosaur McCarthy is whatever came before them.golfaddick said:
I know he's ex-Millwall but I wouldn't mind him if Jacko doesn't work out. At least he's local.ForeverAddickted said:Mick McCarthy has left Cardiff.
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Carlisle United have appointed former Bristol City boss Keith Millen as manager on an 18-month deal.
The 55-year-old has extensive coaching experience with Crystal Palace, Blackpool, MK Dons and the Robins, as well as a spell in Sweden with Orgyte.
Millen replaces Chris Beech who left Brunton Park on 10 October, to lead a Carlisle side 22nd in League Two with just two wins from 14 games.
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Koeman gone!0
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I'm not an expert in Spanish football, but had never even heard of the team which beat Barcelona tonight, Rayo Vallecano!Addick Addict said:Koeman gone!0 -
Good little article on them and Falcao here.killerandflash said:
I'm not an expert in Spanish football, but had never even heard of the team which beat Barcelona tonight, Rayo Vallecano!Addick Addict said:Koeman gone!
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59001257
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Talking to a Stockport fan last night.
They sacked their manager after nine months. Young up and coming coach from Brighton U23s who did well last season but not this. No experience of non-league management, lost a home to Barnet.
They have an ambitious owner who wants Championship Football in seven years and who has appointed a director of football from Man City.
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National league is a terrible league to try and get out of. But Stockport are spending a lot so no surprise the owner wants success.Henry Irving said:Talking to a Stockport fan last night.
They sacked their manager after nine months. Young up and coming coach from Brighton U23s who did well last season but not this. No experience of non-league management, lost a home to Barnet.
They have an ambitious owner who wants Championship Football in seven years and who has appointed a director of football from Man City.
Sound familiar?
Madden came from Fleetwood. Quigley was top scorer for Barrow when they got promoted to league 2, they just signed Sarcevic after he was released by Bolton (he scored for them at the Valley this season).
Them and Wrexham will lose tons of money if they don't go up.3 -
Barnet in the meantime have picked up after sacking a big name (Harry Kewell) and putting their Head of Football in temporary charge, Dean Brennan a non league stalwart...Henry Irving said:Talking to a Stockport fan last night.
They sacked their manager after nine months. Young up and coming coach from Brighton U23s who did well last season but not this. No experience of non-league management, lost a home to Barnet.
They have an ambitious owner who wants Championship Football in seven years and who has appointed a director of football from Man City.
Sound familiar?
Slightly harsh on the Stockport manager seeing that they are currently 10th, but they have brought in some big names for that level.
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Including a 29 year old from Bolton who played and scored against us this month0
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Looks like Nuno's time is up at Spurs.0
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Yup... Nuno has been sacked this morning.0
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The Club can today announce that Nuno Espírito Santo and his coaching staff Ian Cathro, Rui Barbosa and Antonio Dias have been relieved of their duties.
https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/2021/october/club-announcement/
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Tis the day of sackings... Barnsley have parted company with Markus Schopp today0
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Allardyce to Spurs?
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Nuno can take one record with him - the only permanent Spurs Manager never to draw a PL game2
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Nice work if you can get it. Be shit at your job and get ££££££ pay off. Lovely stuff!ForeverAddickted said:Yup... Nuno has been sacked this morning.1
