Low budget // Steve Gallon not able to pick own targets
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Where has the roddy identifying players rumour come from? I’m guessing Twitter and based on the fact that his son joined the academy and played in a pointless cup game?0
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Todds_right_hook said:Where has the roddy identifying players rumour come from? I’m guessing Twitter and based on the fact that his son joined the academy and played in a pointless cup game?
He's part of/ has a recruitment team, has been said by Adkins in the past (mainly focused on the data analysis side of identifying/ checking out players I think)0 -
Think people are largely going off this
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SELR_addicks said:Scoham said:Can you make signings like Stockley and Kirk with a low end League 1 budget?
And if you have less squad members than you should.0 -
"Roddy is technical director and oversees all footballing matters at the football club for the men, women and academy – as well as recruitment and the medical set-up."
"Players are identified by a combination of analysts, scouts and director of football Gallen."
From an SLP article/interview (https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-player-recruitment-process-explained-as-nigel-adkins-makes-transfer-admission/) which admittedly seems to contradict the tweet quoted by @MattF. I'm presuming that Gallen runs the scouting team but is still answering to Roddy which seems to be the issue.0 -
Athletico Charlton said:One thing I have wondered is what our scouting set up looks like? And how does it compare to L1/ championship clubs?
Now that overseas players are that much more difficult to acquire given Brexit do you need an overseas presence?
Was the scouting set up slashed and burnt by RD/ESI- I assume so.
Surely no coincidence we did well under Powell whom was PFA player liaison man I think so extremely well connected and liked. Bowyer was different but was well connected.
Are Adkins connections as strong? Was he out of the game long enough some of that has gone? What connections does Roddy have in the market we are shopping?
In recent years we managed to pick Pope, Lookman and Aribo out of non league - who do we have looking for these gems? You could argue the first two went some way to keeping the club afloat and if Pope was to sell for £20m or so then with Popes sell on; Lookman and him will have bought more to this club than the academy kids like Gomez, Konsa, Grant etc.
I guess the point I am making is, Is this beyond Roddy/Gallen and simply a factor of years of decay and cost cutting of scouting teams?0 -
Gribbo said:Athletico Charlton said:One thing I have wondered is what our scouting set up looks like? And how does it compare to L1/ championship clubs?
Now that overseas players are that much more difficult to acquire given Brexit do you need an overseas presence?
Was the scouting set up slashed and burnt by RD/ESI- I assume so.
Surely no coincidence we did well under Powell whom was PFA player liaison man I think so extremely well connected and liked. Bowyer was different but was well connected.
Are Adkins connections as strong? Was he out of the game long enough some of that has gone? What connections does Roddy have in the market we are shopping?
In recent years we managed to pick Pope, Lookman and Aribo out of non league - who do we have looking for these gems? You could argue the first two went some way to keeping the club afloat and if Pope was to sell for £20m or so then with Popes sell on; Lookman and him will have bought more to this club than the academy kids like Gomez, Konsa, Grant etc.
I guess the point I am making is, Is this beyond Roddy/Gallen and simply a factor of years of decay and cost cutting of scouting teams?3 -
Gribbo said:Athletico Charlton said:One thing I have wondered is what our scouting set up looks like? And how does it compare to L1/ championship clubs?
Now that overseas players are that much more difficult to acquire given Brexit do you need an overseas presence?
Was the scouting set up slashed and burnt by RD/ESI- I assume so.
Surely no coincidence we did well under Powell whom was PFA player liaison man I think so extremely well connected and liked. Bowyer was different but was well connected.
Are Adkins connections as strong? Was he out of the game long enough some of that has gone? What connections does Roddy have in the market we are shopping?
In recent years we managed to pick Pope, Lookman and Aribo out of non league - who do we have looking for these gems? You could argue the first two went some way to keeping the club afloat and if Pope was to sell for £20m or so then with Popes sell on; Lookman and him will have bought more to this club than the academy kids like Gomez, Konsa, Grant etc.
I guess the point I am making is, Is this beyond Roddy/Gallen and simply a factor of years of decay and cost cutting of scouting teams?
Yes quite. I wonder if other L1/Championship clubs have international scouting set ups? Do/did we? Is it worth it as how do footy players qualify for visas anyway. Not just in Europe but further afield as.you say.0 -
Gribbo said:Athletico Charlton said:One thing I have wondered is what our scouting set up looks like? And how does it compare to L1/ championship clubs?
Now that overseas players are that much more difficult to acquire given Brexit do you need an overseas presence?
Was the scouting set up slashed and burnt by RD/ESI- I assume so.
Surely no coincidence we did well under Powell whom was PFA player liaison man I think so extremely well connected and liked. Bowyer was different but was well connected.
Are Adkins connections as strong? Was he out of the game long enough some of that has gone? What connections does Roddy have in the market we are shopping?
In recent years we managed to pick Pope, Lookman and Aribo out of non league - who do we have looking for these gems? You could argue the first two went some way to keeping the club afloat and if Pope was to sell for £20m or so then with Popes sell on; Lookman and him will have bought more to this club than the academy kids like Gomez, Konsa, Grant etc.
I guess the point I am making is, Is this beyond Roddy/Gallen and simply a factor of years of decay and cost cutting of scouting teams?
Shame - there's some decent talent in Australia0 - Sponsored links:
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Athletico Charlton said:Gribbo said:Athletico Charlton said:One thing I have wondered is what our scouting set up looks like? And how does it compare to L1/ championship clubs?
Now that overseas players are that much more difficult to acquire given Brexit do you need an overseas presence?
Was the scouting set up slashed and burnt by RD/ESI- I assume so.
Surely no coincidence we did well under Powell whom was PFA player liaison man I think so extremely well connected and liked. Bowyer was different but was well connected.
Are Adkins connections as strong? Was he out of the game long enough some of that has gone? What connections does Roddy have in the market we are shopping?
In recent years we managed to pick Pope, Lookman and Aribo out of non league - who do we have looking for these gems? You could argue the first two went some way to keeping the club afloat and if Pope was to sell for £20m or so then with Popes sell on; Lookman and him will have bought more to this club than the academy kids like Gomez, Konsa, Grant etc.
I guess the point I am making is, Is this beyond Roddy/Gallen and simply a factor of years of decay and cost cutting of scouting teams?
Yes quite. I wonder if other L1/Championship clubs have international scouting set ups? Do/did we? Is it worth it as how do footy players qualify for visas anyway. Not just in Europe but further afield as.you say.0 -
addick1956 said:Any sign or hint of a rumour of a signing. Another day is slipping by, half done and just us speculating, arguing and wondering. Meanwhile an old boy, Marlon Brandon is on Wycombe's and Lincoln's radar. Strange.
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Swisdom said:Gribbo said:Athletico Charlton said:One thing I have wondered is what our scouting set up looks like? And how does it compare to L1/ championship clubs?
Now that overseas players are that much more difficult to acquire given Brexit do you need an overseas presence?
Was the scouting set up slashed and burnt by RD/ESI- I assume so.
Surely no coincidence we did well under Powell whom was PFA player liaison man I think so extremely well connected and liked. Bowyer was different but was well connected.
Are Adkins connections as strong? Was he out of the game long enough some of that has gone? What connections does Roddy have in the market we are shopping?
In recent years we managed to pick Pope, Lookman and Aribo out of non league - who do we have looking for these gems? You could argue the first two went some way to keeping the club afloat and if Pope was to sell for £20m or so then with Popes sell on; Lookman and him will have bought more to this club than the academy kids like Gomez, Konsa, Grant etc.
I guess the point I am making is, Is this beyond Roddy/Gallen and simply a factor of years of decay and cost cutting of scouting teams?
Shame - there's some decent talent in Australia0 -
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SuedeAdidas said:Gribbo said:Athletico Charlton said:One thing I have wondered is what our scouting set up looks like? And how does it compare to L1/ championship clubs?
Now that overseas players are that much more difficult to acquire given Brexit do you need an overseas presence?
Was the scouting set up slashed and burnt by RD/ESI- I assume so.
Surely no coincidence we did well under Powell whom was PFA player liaison man I think so extremely well connected and liked. Bowyer was different but was well connected.
Are Adkins connections as strong? Was he out of the game long enough some of that has gone? What connections does Roddy have in the market we are shopping?
In recent years we managed to pick Pope, Lookman and Aribo out of non league - who do we have looking for these gems? You could argue the first two went some way to keeping the club afloat and if Pope was to sell for £20m or so then with Popes sell on; Lookman and him will have bought more to this club than the academy kids like Gomez, Konsa, Grant etc.
I guess the point I am making is, Is this beyond Roddy/Gallen and simply a factor of years of decay and cost cutting of scouting teams?0 -
Gribbo said:SuedeAdidas said:Gribbo said:Athletico Charlton said:One thing I have wondered is what our scouting set up looks like? And how does it compare to L1/ championship clubs?
Now that overseas players are that much more difficult to acquire given Brexit do you need an overseas presence?
Was the scouting set up slashed and burnt by RD/ESI- I assume so.
Surely no coincidence we did well under Powell whom was PFA player liaison man I think so extremely well connected and liked. Bowyer was different but was well connected.
Are Adkins connections as strong? Was he out of the game long enough some of that has gone? What connections does Roddy have in the market we are shopping?
In recent years we managed to pick Pope, Lookman and Aribo out of non league - who do we have looking for these gems? You could argue the first two went some way to keeping the club afloat and if Pope was to sell for £20m or so then with Popes sell on; Lookman and him will have bought more to this club than the academy kids like Gomez, Konsa, Grant etc.
I guess the point I am making is, Is this beyond Roddy/Gallen and simply a factor of years of decay and cost cutting of scouting teams?Then it’s very restrictive to get one from outside that group of clubs2 -
Gribbo said:SuedeAdidas said:Gribbo said:Athletico Charlton said:One thing I have wondered is what our scouting set up looks like? And how does it compare to L1/ championship clubs?
Now that overseas players are that much more difficult to acquire given Brexit do you need an overseas presence?
Was the scouting set up slashed and burnt by RD/ESI- I assume so.
Surely no coincidence we did well under Powell whom was PFA player liaison man I think so extremely well connected and liked. Bowyer was different but was well connected.
Are Adkins connections as strong? Was he out of the game long enough some of that has gone? What connections does Roddy have in the market we are shopping?
In recent years we managed to pick Pope, Lookman and Aribo out of non league - who do we have looking for these gems? You could argue the first two went some way to keeping the club afloat and if Pope was to sell for £20m or so then with Popes sell on; Lookman and him will have bought more to this club than the academy kids like Gomez, Konsa, Grant etc.
I guess the point I am making is, Is this beyond Roddy/Gallen and simply a factor of years of decay and cost cutting of scouting teams?0 -
Rothko said:Gribbo said:SuedeAdidas said:Gribbo said:Athletico Charlton said:One thing I have wondered is what our scouting set up looks like? And how does it compare to L1/ championship clubs?
Now that overseas players are that much more difficult to acquire given Brexit do you need an overseas presence?
Was the scouting set up slashed and burnt by RD/ESI- I assume so.
Surely no coincidence we did well under Powell whom was PFA player liaison man I think so extremely well connected and liked. Bowyer was different but was well connected.
Are Adkins connections as strong? Was he out of the game long enough some of that has gone? What connections does Roddy have in the market we are shopping?
In recent years we managed to pick Pope, Lookman and Aribo out of non league - who do we have looking for these gems? You could argue the first two went some way to keeping the club afloat and if Pope was to sell for £20m or so then with Popes sell on; Lookman and him will have bought more to this club than the academy kids like Gomez, Konsa, Grant etc.
I guess the point I am making is, Is this beyond Roddy/Gallen and simply a factor of years of decay and cost cutting of scouting teams?Then it’s very restrictive to get one from outside that group of clubs0 -
Gribbo said:Rothko said:Gribbo said:SuedeAdidas said:Gribbo said:Athletico Charlton said:One thing I have wondered is what our scouting set up looks like? And how does it compare to L1/ championship clubs?
Now that overseas players are that much more difficult to acquire given Brexit do you need an overseas presence?
Was the scouting set up slashed and burnt by RD/ESI- I assume so.
Surely no coincidence we did well under Powell whom was PFA player liaison man I think so extremely well connected and liked. Bowyer was different but was well connected.
Are Adkins connections as strong? Was he out of the game long enough some of that has gone? What connections does Roddy have in the market we are shopping?
In recent years we managed to pick Pope, Lookman and Aribo out of non league - who do we have looking for these gems? You could argue the first two went some way to keeping the club afloat and if Pope was to sell for £20m or so then with Popes sell on; Lookman and him will have bought more to this club than the academy kids like Gomez, Konsa, Grant etc.
I guess the point I am making is, Is this beyond Roddy/Gallen and simply a factor of years of decay and cost cutting of scouting teams?Then it’s very restrictive to get one from outside that group of clubs
The Verane deal was held up by two weeks as it took FA and Home Office to agree on it2 -
If something's too good to be true...then it probably (Charlton athletic) is0
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Rothko said:Gribbo said:Rothko said:Gribbo said:SuedeAdidas said:Gribbo said:Athletico Charlton said:One thing I have wondered is what our scouting set up looks like? And how does it compare to L1/ championship clubs?
Now that overseas players are that much more difficult to acquire given Brexit do you need an overseas presence?
Was the scouting set up slashed and burnt by RD/ESI- I assume so.
Surely no coincidence we did well under Powell whom was PFA player liaison man I think so extremely well connected and liked. Bowyer was different but was well connected.
Are Adkins connections as strong? Was he out of the game long enough some of that has gone? What connections does Roddy have in the market we are shopping?
In recent years we managed to pick Pope, Lookman and Aribo out of non league - who do we have looking for these gems? You could argue the first two went some way to keeping the club afloat and if Pope was to sell for £20m or so then with Popes sell on; Lookman and him will have bought more to this club than the academy kids like Gomez, Konsa, Grant etc.
I guess the point I am making is, Is this beyond Roddy/Gallen and simply a factor of years of decay and cost cutting of scouting teams?Then it’s very restrictive to get one from outside that group of clubs
The Verane deal was held up by two weeks as it took FA and Home Office to agree on it0 -
Gribbo said:Rothko said:Gribbo said:Rothko said:Gribbo said:SuedeAdidas said:Gribbo said:Athletico Charlton said:One thing I have wondered is what our scouting set up looks like? And how does it compare to L1/ championship clubs?
Now that overseas players are that much more difficult to acquire given Brexit do you need an overseas presence?
Was the scouting set up slashed and burnt by RD/ESI- I assume so.
Surely no coincidence we did well under Powell whom was PFA player liaison man I think so extremely well connected and liked. Bowyer was different but was well connected.
Are Adkins connections as strong? Was he out of the game long enough some of that has gone? What connections does Roddy have in the market we are shopping?
In recent years we managed to pick Pope, Lookman and Aribo out of non league - who do we have looking for these gems? You could argue the first two went some way to keeping the club afloat and if Pope was to sell for £20m or so then with Popes sell on; Lookman and him will have bought more to this club than the academy kids like Gomez, Konsa, Grant etc.
I guess the point I am making is, Is this beyond Roddy/Gallen and simply a factor of years of decay and cost cutting of scouting teams?Then it’s very restrictive to get one from outside that group of clubs
The Verane deal was held up by two weeks as it took FA and Home Office to agree on it1 -
Gribbo said:Rothko said:Gribbo said:SuedeAdidas said:Gribbo said:Athletico Charlton said:One thing I have wondered is what our scouting set up looks like? And how does it compare to L1/ championship clubs?
Now that overseas players are that much more difficult to acquire given Brexit do you need an overseas presence?
Was the scouting set up slashed and burnt by RD/ESI- I assume so.
Surely no coincidence we did well under Powell whom was PFA player liaison man I think so extremely well connected and liked. Bowyer was different but was well connected.
Are Adkins connections as strong? Was he out of the game long enough some of that has gone? What connections does Roddy have in the market we are shopping?
In recent years we managed to pick Pope, Lookman and Aribo out of non league - who do we have looking for these gems? You could argue the first two went some way to keeping the club afloat and if Pope was to sell for £20m or so then with Popes sell on; Lookman and him will have bought more to this club than the academy kids like Gomez, Konsa, Grant etc.
I guess the point I am making is, Is this beyond Roddy/Gallen and simply a factor of years of decay and cost cutting of scouting teams?Then it’s very restrictive to get one from outside that group of clubsThe GBE will operate a points-based system, where points are scored for senior and talented young players based on:
• Senior and youth international appearances
• Quality of the selling club, based on the league they are in, league position and progression in continental competition
• Club appearances, based on domestic league and continental competition minutesPlayers accumulating the requisite amount of points will earn a GBE automatically, while players just below the threshold may be considered for a GBE by an Exceptions Panel.
You'll see that earnings have nothing to do with it.
As has been explained on this site previously, even a player of the quality of Norwich's Teemu Pukki would not have got a permit to play here under the post-brexit system.
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cafcfan said:Gribbo said:Rothko said:Gribbo said:SuedeAdidas said:Gribbo said:Athletico Charlton said:One thing I have wondered is what our scouting set up looks like? And how does it compare to L1/ championship clubs?
Now that overseas players are that much more difficult to acquire given Brexit do you need an overseas presence?
Was the scouting set up slashed and burnt by RD/ESI- I assume so.
Surely no coincidence we did well under Powell whom was PFA player liaison man I think so extremely well connected and liked. Bowyer was different but was well connected.
Are Adkins connections as strong? Was he out of the game long enough some of that has gone? What connections does Roddy have in the market we are shopping?
In recent years we managed to pick Pope, Lookman and Aribo out of non league - who do we have looking for these gems? You could argue the first two went some way to keeping the club afloat and if Pope was to sell for £20m or so then with Popes sell on; Lookman and him will have bought more to this club than the academy kids like Gomez, Konsa, Grant etc.
I guess the point I am making is, Is this beyond Roddy/Gallen and simply a factor of years of decay and cost cutting of scouting teams?Then it’s very restrictive to get one from outside that group of clubsThe GBE will operate a points-based system, where points are scored for senior and talented young players based on:
• Senior and youth international appearances
• Quality of the selling club, based on the league they are in, league position and progression in continental competition
• Club appearances, based on domestic league and continental competition minutesPlayers accumulating the requisite amount of points will earn a GBE automatically, while players just below the threshold may be considered for a GBE by an Exceptions Panel.
You'll see that earnings have nothing to do with it.
As has been explained on this site previously, even a player of the quality of Norwich's Teemu Pukki would not have got a permit to play here under the post-brexit system.
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We’ve taken back control of our borders and now Charlton have a more limited market in which to look for players. It’s one of the benefits of brexit.8
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All I was asking was if it's possible to bring in players from further afield? Nothing to do with f***ing B****t4
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We can sign as many Indian footballers as we like3
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Athletico Charlton said:Gribbo said:Athletico Charlton said:One thing I have wondered is what our scouting set up looks like? And how does it compare to L1/ championship clubs?
Now that overseas players are that much more difficult to acquire given Brexit do you need an overseas presence?
Was the scouting set up slashed and burnt by RD/ESI- I assume so.
Surely no coincidence we did well under Powell whom was PFA player liaison man I think so extremely well connected and liked. Bowyer was different but was well connected.
Are Adkins connections as strong? Was he out of the game long enough some of that has gone? What connections does Roddy have in the market we are shopping?
In recent years we managed to pick Pope, Lookman and Aribo out of non league - who do we have looking for these gems? You could argue the first two went some way to keeping the club afloat and if Pope was to sell for £20m or so then with Popes sell on; Lookman and him will have bought more to this club than the academy kids like Gomez, Konsa, Grant etc.
I guess the point I am making is, Is this beyond Roddy/Gallen and simply a factor of years of decay and cost cutting of scouting teams?
Yes quite. I wonder if other L1/Championship clubs have international scouting set ups? Do/did we? Is it worth it as how do footy players qualify for visas anyway. Not just in Europe but further afield as.you say.0 -
Karim_myBagheri said:Athletico Charlton said:Gribbo said:Athletico Charlton said:One thing I have wondered is what our scouting set up looks like? And how does it compare to L1/ championship clubs?
Now that overseas players are that much more difficult to acquire given Brexit do you need an overseas presence?
Was the scouting set up slashed and burnt by RD/ESI- I assume so.
Surely no coincidence we did well under Powell whom was PFA player liaison man I think so extremely well connected and liked. Bowyer was different but was well connected.
Are Adkins connections as strong? Was he out of the game long enough some of that has gone? What connections does Roddy have in the market we are shopping?
In recent years we managed to pick Pope, Lookman and Aribo out of non league - who do we have looking for these gems? You could argue the first two went some way to keeping the club afloat and if Pope was to sell for £20m or so then with Popes sell on; Lookman and him will have bought more to this club than the academy kids like Gomez, Konsa, Grant etc.
I guess the point I am making is, Is this beyond Roddy/Gallen and simply a factor of years of decay and cost cutting of scouting teams?
Yes quite. I wonder if other L1/Championship clubs have international scouting set ups? Do/did we? Is it worth it as how do footy players qualify for visas anyway. Not just in Europe but further afield as.you say.0 -
PragueAddick said:Karim_myBagheri said:Athletico Charlton said:Gribbo said:Athletico Charlton said:One thing I have wondered is what our scouting set up looks like? And how does it compare to L1/ championship clubs?
Now that overseas players are that much more difficult to acquire given Brexit do you need an overseas presence?
Was the scouting set up slashed and burnt by RD/ESI- I assume so.
Surely no coincidence we did well under Powell whom was PFA player liaison man I think so extremely well connected and liked. Bowyer was different but was well connected.
Are Adkins connections as strong? Was he out of the game long enough some of that has gone? What connections does Roddy have in the market we are shopping?
In recent years we managed to pick Pope, Lookman and Aribo out of non league - who do we have looking for these gems? You could argue the first two went some way to keeping the club afloat and if Pope was to sell for £20m or so then with Popes sell on; Lookman and him will have bought more to this club than the academy kids like Gomez, Konsa, Grant etc.
I guess the point I am making is, Is this beyond Roddy/Gallen and simply a factor of years of decay and cost cutting of scouting teams?
Yes quite. I wonder if other L1/Championship clubs have international scouting set ups? Do/did we? Is it worth it as how do footy players qualify for visas anyway. Not just in Europe but further afield as.you say.0