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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)
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I was told both players are out of contract this summer and we are definitely trying to sign them.Vfrf said:
Was this a reliable source? I'd actually love these two.Starinnaddick said:Long and Burke coming in from Hull is the rumour I have heard.
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Exactly, we need to prioritise other areasShootersHillGuru said:
And yet ….Leeds_Addick said:
I stand by them being top quality for league 1. They're better than anyone Hull had at their disposal this season.ShootersHillGuru said:
Top quality strikers !! I think they are decent in Stockley and Chuks when he’s fit but lose Stockley for a period through injury and what then ? Connor is a grafter but won’t fire us to promotion. Yes a proven goal scorer will cost but so will hanging around in league one. Like I said earlier a strike force of Stockley, Washington, Aneke and Schwartz looks thin to me if you want top two.Leeds_Addick said:
I disagree, a marquee striker would be nice but Stockley is quality. Him and a well managed Aneke are about as good a target men as you'll find in League 1.ShootersHillGuru said:Stockley would be a good start but we will still need to bring in a marquee striker too. I’ll be disappointed if we start next season with the strikers we current have.
Some pace as an alternative would be nice but I can see us bringing in pacey wingers and maybe a true attacking midfielder like Szmodics.
Unless there's a bargain to be had like JCH was, a marquee striker will not come cheap and I'd argue that money would be better spent elsewhere when we already have top quality strikers.0 -
Long is definitely out of contract, I think Hull have an option on Burke.Starinnaddick said:
I was told both players are out of contract this summer and we are definitely trying to sign them.Vfrf said:
Was this a reliable source? I'd actually love these two.Starinnaddick said:Long and Burke coming in from Hull is the rumour I have heard.
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Pigott will have plenty of interest from the Championship, why on earth do you think he'd sign to be a backup striker in the league he's already playing in?Maccn05 said:
Out of interest why no to Piggot (back up to Stockley) from what I can see if he's pretty mobile, can hold the ball up and has scored goals? And he's on a free with a point to proveBedsaddick said:
Piggot ? No thanks .hudson-son-son said:Piggott and Stockley upfront seem no brainers really assuming both are interested.
Not really bothered if any of Gunter, Watson, Pearce, Pratley, Matthews all go. Keeping 1 or 2 for experience probably makes sense but I think all of them can be improved upon.
Not saying he would be backup of course, i think he'd probably be ahead of Stockley if we had both.2 -
trouble is nobody's having a chat before Tuesday this week - according to Nige anyway - check your sauce. er sourceTodds_right_hook said:I’ve been told that aneke didn’t turn up for contract talks as he thinks he can get a championship gig.0 -
Sorry, but Piggott isn't Championship level & cant see anyone apart from say Luton signing him. And I shudder at both Pigott & Stockey up front together for us. Might as well get rid of the grass as the ball wouldn't rich the floor.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Pigott will have plenty of interest from the Championship, why on earth do you think he'd sign to be a backup striker in the league he's already playing in?Maccn05 said:
Out of interest why no to Piggot (back up to Stockley) from what I can see if he's pretty mobile, can hold the ball up and has scored goals? And he's on a free with a point to proveBedsaddick said:
Piggot ? No thanks .hudson-son-son said:Piggott and Stockley upfront seem no brainers really assuming both are interested.
Not really bothered if any of Gunter, Watson, Pearce, Pratley, Matthews all go. Keeping 1 or 2 for experience probably makes sense but I think all of them can be improved upon.
Not saying he would be backup of course, i think he'd probably be ahead of Stockley if we had both.0 -
I’m amazed that so many think Pigott is suddenly a world beater? Admittedly he’s had a great season but If I were to choose I’d have Stockley over him in a heartbeat.18
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The meeting was with bowyer, not recentlyBilly_Mix said:
trouble is nobody's having a chat before Tuesday this week - according to Nige anyway - check your sauce. er sourceTodds_right_hook said:I’ve been told that aneke didn’t turn up for contract talks as he thinks he can get a championship gig.2 -
I don't think Nicky Johns actually joined us from millwall ?clive said:
Eamon Dunphy, Harry Cripps, Nicky Johns, Phil Walker, Dave Mehmet & Mike Kelly have all joined us from Millwall.Lazy_eye_metaphor said:
We generally don't do transfer business with that lot. Better to keep it that way IMHO.ShootersHillGuru said:
If Henry’s source is correct and Ferguson of Millwall is being looked at then he is comfortable at either left back or left wing. Played consistently at a higher level than league one and is a good age at 29.robinofottershaw said:I would keep Matthews and Watson but let Gunter and Pratley go and bring in younger players at right back and centre midfield to challenge or be first choice ahead of Matthews and Gunter.
If Pearce stays I would hope he is more of a squad player next season than first choice. Same goes for Purrington. I think he has been stronger defensively than Maatsen but would be good to see someone who can combine that side of the game along with being strong going forward. Purrington is a perfectly adequate back up at L1 level.1 -
Pigott's performance against us this year was one of the best I've seen at this level from an opposing striker, he consistently scores goals at this level, he grew up local obviously through our academy, he's obviously still local and he's out of contract. I don't see why we wouldn't be able to get him, and I can't see why we wouldn't want him. Like when we got Lyle on a free really.
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I personally think Pigott is a big fish in a small pond. He's decent for League One but he's no JCH or Jayden Stockley.1
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Just scored 20 goals in a poor team in league one and is available on a free. Of course he'll have championship clubs interested.golfaddick said:
Sorry, but Piggott isn't Championship level & cant see anyone apart from say Luton signing him. And I shudder at both Pigott & Stockey up front together for us. Might as well get rid of the grass as the ball wouldn't rich the floor.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Pigott will have plenty of interest from the Championship, why on earth do you think he'd sign to be a backup striker in the league he's already playing in?Maccn05 said:
Out of interest why no to Piggot (back up to Stockley) from what I can see if he's pretty mobile, can hold the ball up and has scored goals? And he's on a free with a point to proveBedsaddick said:
Piggot ? No thanks .hudson-son-son said:Piggott and Stockley upfront seem no brainers really assuming both are interested.
Not really bothered if any of Gunter, Watson, Pearce, Pratley, Matthews all go. Keeping 1 or 2 for experience probably makes sense but I think all of them can be improved upon.
Not saying he would be backup of course, i think he'd probably be ahead of Stockley if we had both.6 -
If it was with Bowyer than we can maybe take this news with a pinch of salt now.Todds_right_hook said:
The meeting was with bowyer, not recentlyBilly_Mix said:
trouble is nobody's having a chat before Tuesday this week - according to Nige anyway - check your sauce. er sourceTodds_right_hook said:I’ve been told that aneke didn’t turn up for contract talks as he thinks he can get a championship gig.Obviously goes without saying credit for posting the info you got but now maybe under Adkins and a project actually in sight Chuks might actually have something to think about.
Besides didnt he fall out with LB over Williams? If so even more recent he may have been a no show.0 -
It may have been Tampa Bay Rowdies.charltonbob said:
I don't think Nicky Johns actually joined us from millwall ?clive said:
Eamon Dunphy, Harry Cripps, Nicky Johns, Phil Walker, Dave Mehmet & Mike Kelly have all joined us from Millwall.Lazy_eye_metaphor said:
We generally don't do transfer business with that lot. Better to keep it that way IMHO.ShootersHillGuru said:
If Henry’s source is correct and Ferguson of Millwall is being looked at then he is comfortable at either left back or left wing. Played consistently at a higher level than league one and is a good age at 29.robinofottershaw said:I would keep Matthews and Watson but let Gunter and Pratley go and bring in younger players at right back and centre midfield to challenge or be first choice ahead of Matthews and Gunter.
If Pearce stays I would hope he is more of a squad player next season than first choice. Same goes for Purrington. I think he has been stronger defensively than Maatsen but would be good to see someone who can combine that side of the game along with being strong going forward. Purrington is a perfectly adequate back up at L1 level.3 -
Or the next player to retire through injury.Stewart said:I reckon Stockley will be the next Charlton player to get 50 goals for our great club.0 -
Just checked & it was Tampa though he only played 8 games for them & then played one for Sheffield United & then on to us ? Strange.clive said:
It may have been Tampa Bay Rowdies.charltonbob said:
I don't think Nicky Johns actually joined us from millwall ?clive said:
Eamon Dunphy, Harry Cripps, Nicky Johns, Phil Walker, Dave Mehmet & Mike Kelly have all joined us from Millwall.Lazy_eye_metaphor said:
We generally don't do transfer business with that lot. Better to keep it that way IMHO.ShootersHillGuru said:
If Henry’s source is correct and Ferguson of Millwall is being looked at then he is comfortable at either left back or left wing. Played consistently at a higher level than league one and is a good age at 29.robinofottershaw said:I would keep Matthews and Watson but let Gunter and Pratley go and bring in younger players at right back and centre midfield to challenge or be first choice ahead of Matthews and Gunter.
If Pearce stays I would hope he is more of a squad player next season than first choice. Same goes for Purrington. I think he has been stronger defensively than Maatsen but would be good to see someone who can combine that side of the game along with being strong going forward. Purrington is a perfectly adequate back up at L1 level.0 -
I didn’t know about the williams argument. It must be frustrating for a striker to see players that creat such as Williams and Maddison being moved on with pratley and Watson being played insteadAddick_8 said:
If it was with Bowyer than we can maybe take this news with a pinch of salt now.Todds_right_hook said:
The meeting was with bowyer, not recentlyBilly_Mix said:
trouble is nobody's having a chat before Tuesday this week - according to Nige anyway - check your sauce. er sourceTodds_right_hook said:I’ve been told that aneke didn’t turn up for contract talks as he thinks he can get a championship gig.Obviously goes without saying credit for posting the info you got but now maybe under Adkins and a project actually in sight Chuks might actually have something to think about.
Besides didnt he fall out with LB over Williams? If so even more recent he may have been a no show.3 -
Cullen signed by Vincent Kompany last October on a permanent deal with Anderlecht. Apparently has a contract through to June 2023.SoundAsa£ said:
Talking of Cullen......I’ve kind of lost track.Cafc43v3r said:
Burke would be an excellent signing. Good mates with Josh Cullen :-)Starinnaddick said:Long and Burke coming in from Hull is the rumour I have heard.
Not sure what he’s doing right now, could we get him back somehow?0 -
Personally I don't see him having much Championship interest - Lyle didn't have interest in the same situation my memory says its was us or Sunderland. I think him and Stockley in competition for the target man role would be perfect and statement of intent.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Pigott will have plenty of interest from the Championship, why on earth do you think he'd sign to be a backup striker in the league he's already playing in?Maccn05 said:
Out of interest why no to Piggot (back up to Stockley) from what I can see if he's pretty mobile, can hold the ball up and has scored goals? And he's on a free with a point to proveBedsaddick said:
Piggot ? No thanks .hudson-son-son said:Piggott and Stockley upfront seem no brainers really assuming both are interested.
Not really bothered if any of Gunter, Watson, Pearce, Pratley, Matthews all go. Keeping 1 or 2 for experience probably makes sense but I think all of them can be improved upon.
Not saying he would be backup of course, i think he'd probably be ahead of Stockley if we had both.
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releasing pigott and not telling him must still piss him off. If we are interested, I wonder if previous treatment will influence his decision.
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Didn't he say he was still upset about it but knew no one involved was still at the club?Todds_right_hook said:releasing pigott and not telling him must still piss him off. If we are interested, I wonder if previous treatment will influence his decision.3 -
This could be interesting though as Joe Piggott and Joe Pigott are 2 very different people.6
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Mehmet also came via Tampa Bay.charltonbob said:
Just checked & it was Tampa though he only played 8 games for them & then played one for Sheffield United & then on to us ? Strange.clive said:
It may have been Tampa Bay Rowdies.charltonbob said:
I don't think Nicky Johns actually joined us from millwall ?clive said:
Eamon Dunphy, Harry Cripps, Nicky Johns, Phil Walker, Dave Mehmet & Mike Kelly have all joined us from Millwall.Lazy_eye_metaphor said:
We generally don't do transfer business with that lot. Better to keep it that way IMHO.ShootersHillGuru said:
If Henry’s source is correct and Ferguson of Millwall is being looked at then he is comfortable at either left back or left wing. Played consistently at a higher level than league one and is a good age at 29.robinofottershaw said:I would keep Matthews and Watson but let Gunter and Pratley go and bring in younger players at right back and centre midfield to challenge or be first choice ahead of Matthews and Gunter.
If Pearce stays I would hope he is more of a squad player next season than first choice. Same goes for Purrington. I think he has been stronger defensively than Maatsen but would be good to see someone who can combine that side of the game along with being strong going forward. Purrington is a perfectly adequate back up at L1 level.
Terry Brisley also came directly in the 70's.0 -
10 new players looks pretty massive to me....!ForeverAddickted said:How I think we'll go into the new season:
GK: Amos | Maynard-Brewer
RB: Matthews | Gunter
CB: Inniss | Pearce | Centre-Back | Centre-Back
LB: Purrington | Left-Back
W: Jaiyesimi | Left-Wing | Right-Wing | Right-Wing
Mid: Forster-Caskey | Morgan | Gilbey | Watson | Pratley | CM | CM | CM
Strikers: Stockley | Washington | Schwartz | Forward
Dont think we'll have the massive squad overhaul that people are hoping for.0 -
Not really if 5 are loans.Wheresmeticket? said:
10 new players looks pretty massive to me....!ForeverAddickted said:How I think we'll go into the new season:
GK: Amos | Maynard-Brewer
RB: Matthews | Gunter
CB: Inniss | Pearce | Centre-Back | Centre-Back
LB: Purrington | Left-Back
W: Jaiyesimi | Left-Wing | Right-Wing | Right-Wing
Mid: Forster-Caskey | Morgan | Gilbey | Watson | Pratley | CM | CM | CM
Strikers: Stockley | Washington | Schwartz | Forward
Dont think we'll have the massive squad overhaul that people are hoping for.2 -
You could do a lot worse than getting Ferguson in from us.
Would suit a system with Stockley as Ferguson, although not blessed with any degree of pace, works his arse off and does have a great delivery.13 -
Can he play wide in a 442?Big_Bad_World said:You could do a lot worse than getting Ferguson in from us.
Would suit a system with Stockley as Ferguson, although not blessed with any degree of pace, works his arse off and does have a great delivery.0 -
And yet hull had a far better defence and midfield. We were the joint 4th top scorers but had the 9th worse defence.ShootersHillGuru said:
And yet ….Leeds_Addick said:
I stand by them being top quality for league 1. They're better than anyone Hull had at their disposal this season.ShootersHillGuru said:
Top quality strikers !! I think they are decent in Stockley and Chuks when he’s fit but lose Stockley for a period through injury and what then ? Connor is a grafter but won’t fire us to promotion. Yes a proven goal scorer will cost but so will hanging around in league one. Like I said earlier a strike force of Stockley, Washington, Aneke and Schwartz looks thin to me if you want top two.Leeds_Addick said:
I disagree, a marquee striker would be nice but Stockley is quality. Him and a well managed Aneke are about as good a target men as you'll find in League 1.ShootersHillGuru said:Stockley would be a good start but we will still need to bring in a marquee striker too. I’ll be disappointed if we start next season with the strikers we current have.
Some pace as an alternative would be nice but I can see us bringing in pacey wingers and maybe a true attacking midfielder like Szmodics.
Unless there's a bargain to be had like JCH was, a marquee striker will not come cheap and I'd argue that money would be better spent elsewhere when we already have top quality strikers.
Hull were 2nd top scorers but had the best defence and also created the second most chances. If we can concede less and give better service our current strikers we would have been just fine.1 -
Come on Charlton get it right this summer.1
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Wide in a 4-4-2, wing-back in a 3-5-2, full back in any back 4 and even wide in a front 3.Cafc43v3r said:
Can he play wide in a 442?Big_Bad_World said:You could do a lot worse than getting Ferguson in from us.
Would suit a system with Stockley as Ferguson, although not blessed with any degree of pace, works his arse off and does have a great delivery.
However, as I said, he doesn't have any pace. He does, however, have a superb delivery and work-rate. Can take a decent free-kick as well.6
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