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So who / what do you want next?
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I wouldn’t be anti Adkins. My guess is that he would be offered something like a three year deal with the aim that we will be in the top echelons of the Championship at that point.Sandgaard will not necessarily see him as the person to take us in the second half of his long term plan but considers him someone who can get the first half done.5
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I worry that people are going to immediately turn on Adkins just because he isn't a sentimental choice.
The amount of people that are going to jump on every loss pretending Jackson would've won every game is going to be so annoying.22 -
Can you explain why please?roseandcrown said:As said I am not remotely excited for Adkins but if that who it is he gets my support in the same way every other manager has.1 -
Neither was Powell neither was Bowyer. Both got us out of this league first full season.eaststandmike said:
Just because he has been here a long time does make him a good manager?BR7_addick said:
Planet been at charlton for a decade.SELR_addicks said:
This is kinda mad.CAFCsayer said:If Jacko goes and we end up with Adkins I'll be gutted.
Stick the two managerial CVs up side by side. On what planet is Jackson seen as the smart choice?
All the candidates being mentioned are proven, JJ isn't.0 -
Thought the spec was a. get promoted, b. play attacking football, c. better integrate the homegrown olayers from the academy.Redvaliant said:Adkins sounds like Roddy doing an old mate a favour, doesn't seem to meet the spec TS was laying out.
A. Done 2x with Scunthorpe. L1-Prem with Southampton
B. Arguably done, someone said about their Saints suplorting mate a but earlier.
C. Had 10 academy players in the 1st team regularly playing for Reading. Brought through Lallana.
He also apparently broke the club clean sheet record with Southampton...
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Bit of a nothing stat though. 6 games in they managed a draw and 5 losses, then they take over and get 13 wins in 40 games. Would be incredible if they managed 50 points in X amount of low games but they were there for the whole season practically.995632 said:
Know it doesn't matter much anymore, but I saw a stat saying Cowley got 50 of Huddersfields 51 points...AddickRam said:I don't understand why people don't rate Danny Cowley saying he is average.
Not only is he a very tactically aware manager he also makes his team's the fittest in the league as well as winners everywhere he goes.
His record speaks for himself as a winner.
Concord Rangers:
Essex Senior League Champions 2008
FA Vase Quarter Finals 2008 (Club Record)
Isthmian League Division One North Play Off Finalists 2009
Essex Senior Cup Finalists 2009
Isthmian League Division One North Play Off Winners 2010
Isthmian League Premier Play Off Winners 2013
Isthmian League Cup Winners 2013
Essex Senior Cup Winners 2014
Essex Senior Cup Winners 2015
FA Cup First Round 2015 (Club Record)
3 Promotions (1 champions 2 play offs)
3 Cups
Breaking club records
Braintree Town:
3rd in National League 2016 (Club Record)
Lost to Grimsby in play-offs
FA Cup First Round (Joint Record at the time)
Club record of highest ever league finish
Lincoln City:
National League Champions 2017
FA Cup Q/F 2017 (First non league team to reach quarters)
EFL Trophy Champions 2018
League Two Champions 2019
2 Promotions as champions and the EFL Trophy in 3 seasons.
Huddersfield Town:
Took over Huddersfield when they was struggling and won October's manager of the month going 6 unbeaten.
Rebalanced the budget and did his job of keeping them in the championship then shafted as they wanted a foreign approach.
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Its not that black and white though. If we were in this exact position under RD or ESI people would bite your hands off for Jacko.ForeverAddickted said:
In which case Jackson would never get a Management job then.SELR_addicks said:
This is kinda mad.CAFCsayer said:If Jacko goes and we end up with Adkins I'll be gutted.
Stick the two managerial CVs up side by side. On what planet is Jackson seen as the smart choice?
Hate the "But you need experience" line... Absolute bullshit as have had it thrown my way a few times too
But when you have an owner who is willing to financially back the club and specifically mentions his desire to be playing European football in x amount of years, then you are likely to not to want to employ anyone who is unproven.
Plenty of other clubs in a positions different to us would be more than happy to give Jacko his first gig.0 -
wasn't immediately thrilled about Adkins but the more i think about it, the more he could be a good choice - 3 promotions out of league 1 fits what i was suggesting before i got caught up with the thought of curbs coming back to team up with jacko - glad TS is listening to me - it was my and my sons 50th and 18th birthday on Monday - i thought it was a coincidence bowyer was sacked that day but now he's following my advice on the new manager as well - thanks TS - tbh, whether you go with curbs and jacko or adkins, i'm fine with it, i'll leave it up to you
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Club legend leaving or some washed up old bloke coming in???SELR_addicks said:
This is kinda mad.CAFCsayer said:If Jacko goes and we end up with Adkins I'll be gutted.
Stick the two managerial CVs up side by side. On what planet is Jackson seen as the smart choice?
Thats the upside down side mate0 -
Wait till summer. Two weeks into close season appoint manager. Manager then identified targets, we go to get them, a lot gone as other teams got their earlier. Also, how could he assess if say Stockley is worth signing or whether we should offer Chuks a new deal. As PV said the other day they built a promotion team in the April. Leave it till the end of the season and we are behind the game.SouthWest_Addicks said:
Very similar to how I feel. Unless another club are about to appoint Adkins it doesn’t make much sense.ElliotCAFC said:Warming to the idea of Adkins, just hope that this doesn’t mean the end for Jackson.One thing I don’t understand is why not wait until the end of the season and reassess? The list of candidates will likely be a lot better in 6 weeks1 -
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How is he the opposite? Experience getting promoted or if this crap league, experience getting promoted into the Prem, experience utilising academy players, generally thought to play attacking football...Belv said:Adkins is the complete anti of what TS said he wanted.
Jobs for mates.
Disappointed.2 -
Agreed. Obviously the older manager will have more "medals" on his CV, but it doesn't mean that they'll be the best choices foreverForeverAddickted said:
In which case Jackson would never get a Management job then.SELR_addicks said:
This is kinda mad.CAFCsayer said:If Jacko goes and we end up with Adkins I'll be gutted.
Stick the two managerial CVs up side by side. On what planet is Jackson seen as the smart choice?
Hate the "But you need experience" line... Absolute bullshit as have had it thrown my way a few times too
You look at Paul Lambert, who did the "2 seasons running" promotion a year before Adkins, but did nothing at Ipswich
The season Adkins achieved promotion to the PL, Brian McDermott's Reading actually won the title, but what happened to him?
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Thanks for putting me right Ged.995632 said:
Thought the spec was a. get promoted, b. play attacking football, c. better integrate the homegrown olayers from the academy.Redvaliant said:Adkins sounds like Roddy doing an old mate a favour, doesn't seem to meet the spec TS was laying out.
A. Done 2x with Scunthorpe. L1-Prem with Southampton
B. Arguably done, someone said about their Saints suplorting mate a but earlier.
C. Had 10 academy players in the 1st team regularly playing for Reading. Brought through Lallana.
He also apparently broke the club clean sheet record with Southampton...4 -
Not to downplay Adkins achievements of his last 3rd tier promotion (10 years ago) but with team he had I think Karel Fraye would’ve got promoted.2
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Could say the same about Bowyer and Powell's promotion seasons.BR7_addick said:Not to downplay Adkins achievements of his last promotion (10 years ago) but with team he had I think Karel Fraye would’ve got promoted.
Question is, who brought all the players together?0 -
Really? One of those promotions was as recent as 2019. Another was 2012. Hardly ancient history. The last manager to get Charlton promoted who had neither of the above mentioned qualifications was Andy Nelson in 1975.SELR_addicks said:
Means nothing for the Charlton in 2021.Mametz said:The last six promotions that Charlton have had, have been under managers who already employed by the club when they were appointed or were former Charlton players.1 -
He also got Scunthorpe promoted to the Championship twice. Scunthorpe have barely been at that level and he did it twice in three seasons and then he kept them there.
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Think we need to calm down a bit re Adkins, it’s come from one person so far who, although he’s got a lot right, has also got stuff wrong so until we get some sort of confirmation from elsewhere it’s just all fluff and nonsense at the moment.3
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bazjonster said:Bowyer wants Jacko at Brum with him.
That'll rather depend on who our new manager wants as his assistant, or indeed if Jacko may be our new manager.
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Pardew!SELR_addicks said:
Could say the same about Bowyer and Powell's promotion seasons.BR7_addick said:Not to downplay Adkins achievements of his last promotion (10 years ago) but with team he had I think Karel Fraye would’ve got promoted.
Question is, who brought all the players together?0 -
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That was a far more impressive achievement, similar to what Paul Warne has done at RotherhamUEAAddick said:He also got Scunthorpe promoted to the Championship twice. Scunthorpe have barely been at that level and he did it twice in three seasons and then he kept them there.6 -
Before it gets out of hand I'd like to nip this in the bud straight away *ADKINS* not Atkins , sorry BossAFKABartram said:
I think it’s pretty telling how much most of us get caught up in modern day Sky Sports style sensationalism of signings etc. Instant to reaction to Atkins is pretty deflating, yet I’m sure when many of us think about it logically over a bit of time it makes more sense.AFKABartram said:Football is a funny game. Anyone appointed could turn out to be a massive success or a massive flop. Anyone appointed will get 100% support.
But with all the type of names being touted around, someone like Atkins would feel a real deflater. Like being told that someone with money is taking you out to dinner and your cab turns up at a Brewers Fayre.
Experienced, with miles under belt. Proven success of getting out the league we’re in. Plays attacking football and likes developing young players. Positive attitude. Intelligent man who will buy into building a sustainable model as opposed to simply focus on short term.
Just isn't an exciting name and won’t be wearing the latest clobber from Macimo Dutti on the touchline. And if you are wanting us to discover the next big young thing, it won’t be that.
But the considered opinion is a bit positive than the instant one.1 -
Posting with only a bit of scanning - where has all the Adkins stuff come from ? Has he got the job or something ? Not seeing anything anywere else on net. Is there a page number on this thread where all this started from. How is Adkins in the running above everyone else now ?In my opinion - its good not to rush the next appointment if its for the next 10 years. I now Thomas Sandgaard is a man of action but the fanbase will cope if the decision takes a bit longer. Better to get it right. I am happy if it takes a bit more time, Johnnie Jackson is an able caretaker and can hold the reins. After yesterday's game, there was a lot of mutual respect between JJ and the team and they definitely fought for him.0
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Honest question. What do you know about Nigel Adkins and have you done any research about his previous experience?Valleysarr said:
Club legend leaving or some washed up old bloke coming in???SELR_addicks said:
This is kinda mad.CAFCsayer said:If Jacko goes and we end up with Adkins I'll be gutted.
Stick the two managerial CVs up side by side. On what planet is Jackson seen as the smart choice?
Thats the upside down side mate
If so why do you think he is washed up and that a club legend, who has been involved in 2 relegations, once as a captain and once as an assistant manager, and has no direct managerial experience will be a better option.
Just for reference my preference would be to give Jackson the job until the end of the season and see what he can do. But am completely miffed as to why posters are so quick to write of Adkins but then want to give the job to Jackson.2 -
Two of those wins were against us, as we are easy to beat, those wins should be struck from their records.Braziliance said:
Bit of a nothing stat though. 6 games in they managed a draw and 5 losses, then they take over and get 13 wins in 40 games. Would be incredible if they managed 50 points in X amount of low games but they were there for the whole season practically.995632 said:
Know it doesn't matter much anymore, but I saw a stat saying Cowley got 50 of Huddersfields 51 points...AddickRam said:I don't understand why people don't rate Danny Cowley saying he is average.
Not only is he a very tactically aware manager he also makes his team's the fittest in the league as well as winners everywhere he goes.
His record speaks for himself as a winner.
Concord Rangers:
Essex Senior League Champions 2008
FA Vase Quarter Finals 2008 (Club Record)
Isthmian League Division One North Play Off Finalists 2009
Essex Senior Cup Finalists 2009
Isthmian League Division One North Play Off Winners 2010
Isthmian League Premier Play Off Winners 2013
Isthmian League Cup Winners 2013
Essex Senior Cup Winners 2014
Essex Senior Cup Winners 2015
FA Cup First Round 2015 (Club Record)
3 Promotions (1 champions 2 play offs)
3 Cups
Breaking club records
Braintree Town:
3rd in National League 2016 (Club Record)
Lost to Grimsby in play-offs
FA Cup First Round (Joint Record at the time)
Club record of highest ever league finish
Lincoln City:
National League Champions 2017
FA Cup Q/F 2017 (First non league team to reach quarters)
EFL Trophy Champions 2018
League Two Champions 2019
2 Promotions as champions and the EFL Trophy in 3 seasons.
Huddersfield Town:
Took over Huddersfield when they was struggling and won October's manager of the month going 6 unbeaten.
Rebalanced the budget and did his job of keeping them in the championship then shafted as they wanted a foreign approach.
My bad if I've been whooshed here
11 wins in 38 you say, that’s nothing special!1 -
If JJ wants it I’d give it to him. If it’s a status quo vision I want that Charlton connection. The only caveat to that would be if TS and JR want to implement a completely new philosophy and have a more appropriate candidate.
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Jacko basically talked himself out the job last night ... so not sure what the club can doCAFCsayer said:If Jacko goes and we end up with Adkins I'll be gutted.0 -
Valleysarr said:
Club legend leaving or some washed up old bloke coming in???SELR_addicks said:
This is kinda mad.CAFCsayer said:If Jacko goes and we end up with Adkins I'll be gutted.
Stick the two managerial CVs up side by side. On what planet is Jackson seen as the smart choice?
Thats the upside down side mate
Washed up?Valleysarr said:
Club legend leaving or some washed up old bloke coming in???SELR_addicks said:
This is kinda mad.CAFCsayer said:If Jacko goes and we end up with Adkins I'll be gutted.
Stick the two managerial CVs up side by side. On what planet is Jackson seen as the smart choice?
Thats the upside down side mate
Was literally managing well in the league above ours the season before last.10 -
He's already had a play off final win over the scum in 2009 so he's used all his luck up against them3
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Honestly think it would be better for Jackson’s development (if he is to stay a no.2) to stay here and learn under a different manager and how they work than to go and continue to be an assistant to the same one and not learn anything new. Money obviously talks though.8
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