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greatest show on turf Cheltenham 2021

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  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,970
    If it wasn’t genuine surely he would say so rather than saying he is helping with the investigation 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    I think it’s 100% genuine. Not hugely shocked, blokes a tool 
  • ISawLeaburnScore
    ISawLeaburnScore Posts: 9,779
    MrOneLung said:
    If it wasn’t genuine surely he would say so rather than saying he is helping with the investigation 
    I would think so, yes. The only plausible explanations for a non-denial in my view are: 1) it's true or 2) he's been advised by his lawyer not to comment (which seems unlikely if he is completely blameless and the scenario is pretty binary).
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,307
    What would the outcome be of this? Byrnes got 6 months for drugging a horse. 

    Have been in the blokes company once and he seems to drink a lot.

    I also received the following last week about him having lockdown parties in his don cossack bar and got caught getting intimate with a stable staff member - have seen the Video of the party it’s clearly 25/30 people breaking all Ireland’s covid rules. 
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,056
    I suspect an appeal would be dragged all the way out so the horses run at the Festival - if this is a genuine photo. At the moment it has all the hallmarks of a fake imho, but I can't get over the fact that the horse has a very similar marking on his right foreleg to that of Easywork who passed away this year. 

    If this is real... the bloke has to be whatever the training equivalent of warned off is. It would be lower than I'd possibly think would go on at any stable. 

    But, let's wait and see.
  • PeanutsMolloy
    PeanutsMolloy Posts: 6,731
    edited February 2021
    PaddyP17 said:
    I suspect an appeal would be dragged all the way out so the horses run at the Festival - if this is a genuine photo. At the moment it has all the hallmarks of a fake imho, but I can't get over the fact that the horse has a very similar marking on his right foreleg to that of Easywork who passed away this year. 

    If this is real... the bloke has to be whatever the training equivalent of warned off is. It would be lower than I'd possibly think would go on at any stable. 

    But, let's wait and see.
    IF it is genuine, he should be put out of business - period.
    And, if it is for real, whatever the authorities might do, I’d like to think owners would make it so by removing their horses from him instantly.
    We’ll see.

  • ISawLeaburnScore
    ISawLeaburnScore Posts: 9,779
    PeanutsMolloy said:
    PaddyP17 said:
    I suspect an appeal would be dragged all the way out so the horses run at the Festival - if this is a genuine photo. At the moment it has all the hallmarks of a fake imho, but I can't get over the fact that the horse has a very similar marking on his right foreleg to that of Easywork who passed away this year. 

    If this is real... the bloke has to be whatever the training equivalent of warned off is. It would be lower than I'd possibly think would go on at any stable. 

    But, let's wait and see.
    IF it is genuine, he should be put out of business - period.
    But, if so, whatever the authorities might do, I’d like to think owners would pull his shutters down by removing their horses from him instantly.
    We’ll see.

    Yes I would suspect the official sanction would be academic.

    If Gigginstown, Cheveley Park, The Morans etc all walk then he's finished.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,525
    MrOneLung said:
    If it wasn’t genuine surely he would say so rather than saying he is helping with the investigation 
     This. Fellas in big trouble there.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,084
    I know it’s a photo from Snapchat but I’ve zoomed in and if it’s a fake then it’s a very very good one.
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,307
    Gigginstown are running there operation down I think. 

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  • ISawLeaburnScore
    ISawLeaburnScore Posts: 9,779
    palarsehater said:
    Gigginstown are running there operation down I think. 
    Yes - announced phasing out over the course of 5 years
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,056
    https://www.irishracing.com/news?prid=216026 

    Get him out. This is Wayne Hennessy levels of bullshit. Disgusting.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    PaddyP17 said:
    https://www.irishracing.com/news?prid=216026 

    Get him out. This is Wayne Hennessy levels of bullshit. Disgusting.
    Wow.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    I’ve never seen the peace sign being used as a “I’m on the phone, I’ll be 2 mins” signal 
  • killer kish
    killer kish Posts: 2,019
    He should never be seen anywhere near a horse again let alone in racing. He should be thrown out of racing for good. A sad and sickening day racing
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,056
    I am fuming. Absolutely fuming. This is a beyond terrible situation.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    This was the event that went ahead last year despite concerns regarding coronavirus, and shortly afterwards the region was identified as a hotspot I believe.  They can fuck off.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    This was the event that went ahead last year despite concerns regarding coronavirus, and shortly afterwards the region was identified as a hotspot I believe.  They can fuck off.
    Who is they? 
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,573
    Wow, what a complete and utter bellend
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited February 2021
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    This was the event that went ahead last year despite concerns regarding coronavirus, and shortly afterwards the region was identified as a hotspot I believe.  They can fuck off.
    Who is they? 
    The jockey club.

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  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    This was the event that went ahead last year despite concerns regarding coronavirus, and shortly afterwards the region was identified as a hotspot I believe.  They can fuck off.
    Who is they? 
    The organisers of this event.
    Bit harsh. Hindsight a wonderful thing, it was still a bit of unknown then. Although I do 100% agree it shouldn't have gone ahead, certainly not in front of a crowd but that decision should have been made by the Government, not the organisers. 
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,056
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    This was the event that went ahead last year despite concerns regarding coronavirus, and shortly afterwards the region was identified as a hotspot I believe.  They can fuck off.
    Who is they? 
    The organisers of this event.
    A huge mistake that it went ahead with fans for sure. Thankfully it's a different situation this year.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    This was the event that went ahead last year despite concerns regarding coronavirus, and shortly afterwards the region was identified as a hotspot I believe.  They can fuck off.
    Who is they? 
    The organisers of this event.
    Bit harsh. Hindsight a wonderful thing, it was still a bit of unknown then. Although I do 100% agree it shouldn't have gone ahead, certainly not in front of a crowd but that decision should have been made by the Government, not the organisers. 
    Hindsight?  Many people were saying how ridiculous it was that this was going ahead at the time.  Not hindsight at all.  Criminal negligence.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    This was the event that went ahead last year despite concerns regarding coronavirus, and shortly afterwards the region was identified as a hotspot I believe.  They can fuck off.
    Who is they? 
    The organisers of this event.
    Bit harsh. Hindsight a wonderful thing, it was still a bit of unknown then. Although I do 100% agree it shouldn't have gone ahead, certainly not in front of a crowd but that decision should have been made by the Government, not the organisers. 
    Hindsight?  Many people were saying how ridiculous it was that this was going ahead at the time.  Not hindsight at all.  Criminal negligence.
    I said the same myself to be fair. But to put that blame at the feet of the organisers is unfair I feel. 
  • PeanutsMolloy
    PeanutsMolloy Posts: 6,731
    edited March 2021
    No need for any further investigation.
    There can be no acceptable explanation for the photo - certainly that given by Elliott comes nowhere near one. Even if true, an appalling and unacceptable disrespect for animals in his care, to whom he owes his entire career.
    He must have his license revoked permanently.
    The Cnut has gravely damaged a sport loved by millions, 99.9% of whom will find that photo utterly abhorrent.

  • killer kish
    killer kish Posts: 2,019
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    This was the event that went ahead last year despite concerns regarding coronavirus, and shortly afterwards the region was identified as a hotspot I believe.  They can fuck off.
    Who is they? 
    The organisers of this event.
    Bit harsh. Hindsight a wonderful thing, it was still a bit of unknown then. Although I do 100% agree it shouldn't have gone ahead, certainly not in front of a crowd but that decision should have been made by the Government, not the organisers. 
    Hindsight?  Many people were saying how ridiculous it was that this was going ahead at the time.  Not hindsight at all.  Criminal negligence.
    Against the Government as it was them that said it could all go ahead with public in attendance. Jockey Club, Cheltenham and BHA all went by rules and keep checking with the government so no criminal negligence there!
    Why single out Cheltenham what about the 3,000 fans coming over from Madrid for the football that week too or the 50,000 gathered at a pop concert the weekend after Cheltenham!

  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    killer kish said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    This was the event that went ahead last year despite concerns regarding coronavirus, and shortly afterwards the region was identified as a hotspot I believe.  They can fuck off.
    Who is they? 
    The organisers of this event.
    Bit harsh. Hindsight a wonderful thing, it was still a bit of unknown then. Although I do 100% agree it shouldn't have gone ahead, certainly not in front of a crowd but that decision should have been made by the Government, not the organisers. 
    Hindsight?  Many people were saying how ridiculous it was that this was going ahead at the time.  Not hindsight at all.  Criminal negligence.
    Against the Government as it was them that said it could all go ahead with public in attendance. Jockey Club, Cheltenham and BHA all went by rules and keep checking with the government so no criminal negligence there!
    Why single out Cheltenham what about the 3,000 fans coming over from Madrid for the football that week too or the 50,000 gathered at a pop concert the weekend after Cheltenham!

    I'm not singling out Cheltenham.  If you can show me the threads on those other events I'll make myself unpopular on those as well.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    killer kish said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    This was the event that went ahead last year despite concerns regarding coronavirus, and shortly afterwards the region was identified as a hotspot I believe.  They can fuck off.
    Who is they? 
    The organisers of this event.
    Bit harsh. Hindsight a wonderful thing, it was still a bit of unknown then. Although I do 100% agree it shouldn't have gone ahead, certainly not in front of a crowd but that decision should have been made by the Government, not the organisers. 
    Hindsight?  Many people were saying how ridiculous it was that this was going ahead at the time.  Not hindsight at all.  Criminal negligence.
    Against the Government as it was them that said it could all go ahead with public in attendance. Jockey Club, Cheltenham and BHA all went by rules and keep checking with the government so no criminal negligence there!
    Why single out Cheltenham what about the 3,000 fans coming over from Madrid for the football that week too or the 50,000 gathered at a pop concert the weekend after Cheltenham!

    I'm not singling out Cheltenham.  If you can show me the threads on those other events I'll make myself unpopular on those as well.
    I don't disagree with your point, just think it's targeted in the wrong direction. By hindsight I meant knowing the effects of the virus, particularly for the organisers. It wasn't their job to know about the virus, in March last year the magnitude of Covid was still an unknown for the majority of people. The responsibility to make the call fell on the Government, and they made the wrong one. 
  • killer kish
    killer kish Posts: 2,019
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    killer kish said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    This was the event that went ahead last year despite concerns regarding coronavirus, and shortly afterwards the region was identified as a hotspot I believe.  They can fuck off.
    Who is they? 
    The organisers of this event.
    Bit harsh. Hindsight a wonderful thing, it was still a bit of unknown then. Although I do 100% agree it shouldn't have gone ahead, certainly not in front of a crowd but that decision should have been made by the Government, not the organisers. 
    Hindsight?  Many people were saying how ridiculous it was that this was going ahead at the time.  Not hindsight at all.  Criminal negligence.
    Against the Government as it was them that said it could all go ahead with public in attendance. Jockey Club, Cheltenham and BHA all went by rules and keep checking with the government so no criminal negligence there!
    Why single out Cheltenham what about the 3,000 fans coming over from Madrid for the football that week too or the 50,000 gathered at a pop concert the weekend after Cheltenham!

    I'm not singling out Cheltenham.  If you can show me the threads on those other events I'll make myself unpopular on those as well.

    No threads on here that I know of just simple facts. But 3,000 travelled over from Madrid for the Champions League match with Liverpool. And the concert was in this country the weekend after Cheltenham
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,307
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    This was the event that went ahead last year despite concerns regarding coronavirus, and shortly afterwards the region was identified as a hotspot I believe.  They can fuck off.
    Who is they? 
    The jockey club.
    I gladly attended so presumably that’s aimed at me also?

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