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Curbs?

Loved how he referred to us always as WE! Plus you could tell how he felt about the tactics and the subs the same as the majority of the Postmatch thread. Alan is Charlton, could he? Would he? Long time out the game but still comes across as knowing what is needed, just like back in the day....
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  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
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  • Always wanted and still want Bowyer to do the business again but had so much Curbs love after seeing him today.  Yeah, long time out the game but still understands the principles of football and knows how to get Promotion! Curbs love us! So much better than some journeyman league 1 manger if Bowyer is given the boot...
  • If we must ask the question then it has to be 'no' for me.
    Eddie Howe is the only other manager I would want.
    If people think that is over ambitious then I disagree. I think TS could persuade him, and he would relish the challenge. Ultimately it often boils down to the salary.
  • Time will tell...
  • Talking of Curbs. You have to see this. He has a new career in acting I tell ya.....

    https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/1340250525074374656?s=21


  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,824
    Talking of Curbs. You have to see this. He has a new career in acting I tell ya.....

    https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/1340250525074374656?s=21


    That's brilliant...
  • Curbs should be football advisor.

    role one. Explain to bowyer the disadvantages off 4 full backs
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Should get Curbs in as a coach, or what ever job title you want, the lack of experience on our coaching staff is obvious. 

    Advise Bowyer, watch the game from the stand and comment as it unfolds.  Even Harry Redknapp had Jim Smith as his number 2, your never too old to learn.  Lennie Lawrence has done this role at a number of clubs. 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,001
    Curbs frequently employed the same tactic of swapping out attacking players for defensive early in games we were winning.
    Hilarious to see people wanting him to replace Bowyer! 

  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,907
    Loved how he referred to us always as WE! Plus you could tell how he felt about the tactics and the subs the same as the majority of the Postmatch thread. Alan is Charlton, could he? Would he? Long time out the game but still comes across as knowing what is needed, just like back in the day....
    he's finally learnt on that score - that was the one thing i didn't take to with curbs - the fact u always felt he was west ham - whether thats just being honest or not i don't know but that is the clearest indication i've seen in years that he might be hovering for the job - something i would massively welcome 
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  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,661
    I bow to nobody in my love and appreciation of the great Curbs but it is a whole lot easier to say what people want to hear as a pundit than to do it as a manager as he well knows.

    All that said Lee Bowyer does need to learn how to finish a game. These late goals have happened far too often now.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    Valley11 said:
    Curbs frequently employed the same tactic of swapping out attacking players for defensive early in games we were winning.
    Hilarious to see people wanting him to replace Bowyer! 

    There isn't anything wrong with doing it if you can make it work. Also bearing in mind, Curbs had to play against much better sides. You need zero knowledge of football to know that we can't make it work against the likes of Swindon and should desist immediately.
  • Curbs, even now is light years in front of Bowyer as a manager/coach, I don’t care how long he’s been out the game  
    a god is a god 
  • Curbs oversaw many years of ordinary football, but also some of our happiest and most successful in the clubs history. The desire for success, drove ,Curbs out of the club. Consistency had been the mainstay, but hunger and greed for even greater heights, saw his and our downfall. Just like when Ferguson left Man Utd, the following years have not measured up. They say never go back to a lost love and I agree.

    As recently as last week, Bradford City parted company, yet again(4th time as manager) with their club legend McCall, following a run of SIX straight defeats.

    Let Curbs stay one of our greats and lets see how Lee does over the next 15 years to see if there is any parity. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,810
    Curbs, even now is light years in front of Bowyer as a manager/coach, I don’t care how long he’s been out the game  
    a god is a god 
    Was Curbs light years ahead in those early years, the man who brought on Tom Hovi to shore it up against Derby when we were 3-1 up, was someone who was learning as Bow is now 
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,871
    Was curbs doing Gillette soccer Saturday?

    He's part of the group?
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,871
    When doing in management...it's safe to say curbs was probably quite an unlikeable character from a players point of view.

    Wouldn't have been a problem though. They respected him as he was probably someone that would get under their skin but for the right reasons.

    Do your job or f*CK off...I think was one of his general standard tactical messages!
  • Rothko said:
    Curbs, even now is light years in front of Bowyer as a manager/coach, I don’t care how long he’s been out the game  
    a god is a god 
    Was Curbs light years ahead in those early years, the man who brought on Tom Hovi to shore it up against Derby when we were 3-1 up, was someone who was learning as Bow is now 
    Curbs had a shit budget, we were pretty skint early on in his managerial career and he kept us up in the 2nd tier and competitive every time by hook or by crook with some junk as well from 1981-2009 we were never in the third tier (Curbs managed us 91-06)
    Bowyer is a good few years away from being able to tie Curbs laces as a manager .
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,810
    Rothko said:
    Curbs, even now is light years in front of Bowyer as a manager/coach, I don’t care how long he’s been out the game  
    a god is a god 
    Was Curbs light years ahead in those early years, the man who brought on Tom Hovi to shore it up against Derby when we were 3-1 up, was someone who was learning as Bow is now 
    Curbs had a shit budget, we were pretty skint early on in his managerial career and he kept us up in the 2nd tier and competitive every time by hook or by crook with some junk as well from 1981-2009 we were never in the third tier (Curbs managed us 91-06)
    Bowyer is a good few years away from being able to tie Curbs laces as a manager .
    Well aware of that, Curbs would have struggled to have kept that squad up last season especially post resumption. Curbs didn’t have Roland or Southall to deal with and had a stable operation behind him 
  • Rothko said:
    Curbs, even now is light years in front of Bowyer as a manager/coach, I don’t care how long he’s been out the game  
    a god is a god 
    Was Curbs light years ahead in those early years, the man who brought on Tom Hovi to shore it up against Derby when we were 3-1 up, was someone who was learning as Bow is now 
    Bowyer has made the same mistakes 10 times now since last October! That isn’t learning
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  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,658
    edited December 2020
    Curbs should be football advisor.

    role one. Explain to bowyer the disadvantages off 4 full backs
    Didn't Curbs famously squeeze 5 full backs into one of his sides back in the day?
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,175
    Curbs loved converting a full back into a midfielder. Kish and Konchesky were regularly played in midfield. If he could have got away with it he would have had a team of full backs crossing balls up to Shaun Bartlett every week 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,957
    Curbs loved converting a full back into a midfielder. Kish and Konchesky were regularly played in midfield. If he could have got away with it he would have had a team of full backs crossing balls up to Shaun Bartlett every week 
    No, I don't think that was really true.  He always liked to have creative players in the team that could open up defences or thread that killer pass on the counter.

    Though Curbs loved a player who was capable of playing in 2 different positions. 

    Kish came to Charlton as a fullback, full of running, hardworking, and could tackle. But he lacked a bit of pace for the Prem.
    Curbs needed a midfield enforcer who would stop opponents playing through us, press, win the ball and give it, providing that platform for those with creative ability to do their thing. Kish did the job well with gusto if not finesse.

    Konchesky was always positionally suspect, but had a good engine, could tackle and cross, cover and track back to allow Chris Powell to overlap.
    The 2 worked well in tandem, both defensively and overloading the opposing full back.

    The team unit was the thing ....... Curbs ethic was to create a team greater than it's sum of parts.
    And if something wasn't working, he'd always say he was "going back to basics."

  • Of course they key question is will LB ever reach the heights of a back 4 of Fortune, Costa, Fish and Young ? 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,957
    Of course they key question is will LB ever reach the heights of a back 4 of Fortune, Costa, Fish and Young ? 
    Back in 2016, there was also that classic Charlton subs bench: Pope, Suk-Yung, Fanni, etc.


  • Oggy Red said:
    Of course they key question is will LB ever reach the heights of a back 4 of Fortune, Costa, Fish and Young ? 
    Back in 2016, there was also that classic Charlton subs bench: Pope, Suk-Yung, Fanni, etc.


    Wasnt Johnson on the Bench too, what with being close to that Sunderland player going to prison?
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,957
    Oggy Red said:
    Of course they key question is will LB ever reach the heights of a back 4 of Fortune, Costa, Fish and Young ? 
    Back in 2016, there was also that classic Charlton subs bench: Pope, Suk-Yung, Fanni, etc.


    Wasnt Johnson on the Bench too, what with being close to that Sunderland player going to prison?
    He was, the biggest Johnson since Boris. 


  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    Curbs was human and made mistakes as everybody does. I just don't recall him continuing to make the same ones all of the time.
  • Don’t know if I’ve missed this before, but just read an article on The Athletic confirming that Curbs was interviewed for the Liverpool job before they gave it to Rafa Benitez. Istanbul could have been his
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,466
    edited December 2020
    I should think TS has been very impressed with way Curbs has spoken on valley pass.