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  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,863
    Don’t know if I’ve missed this before, but just read an article on The Athletic confirming that Curbs was interviewed for the Liverpool job before they gave it to Rafa Benitez. Istanbul could have been his
    Lol, really? At 3-0 down Curbs wouldve brought on more defenders to try and keep the score down.
  • Don’t know if I’ve missed this before, but just read an article on The Athletic confirming that Curbs was interviewed for the Liverpool job before they gave it to Rafa Benitez. Istanbul could have been his
    I know he was interviewed for the Villa job before Houllier got it but never heard that,  June 2004 Rafa took over them , their loss our gain 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,625
    edited December 2020
    Curbs real strength was being able to get the team back to basics after a poor run. We were pretty much always punching above our weight early in the Championship days and certainly in the Premier League. At present I’d say with our squad we’re under performing. Bowyer has been unlucky with injuries yet again but I’d like to see him bring in a defensive coach. We need some lock outs again. I’m  still fully in support of him and failure to get us promoted this season would in my view be forgivable. I don’t think Lee will get any longer than next season to get things right.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    edited December 2020
    I thought the strength of Curbs was that every season he improved the team. He was ruthless when he had to be and he could spot where a player would improve a position. He did this every season until 2003/4 when he probably took as far us as it was possible. Then he did well keeping us in a tough league at a decent level.

    I'm not sure it would be a positive step making him a manager again. But certainly a DOF role where he can guide a younger manager and impart his wisdom would be perfect. Maybe Bowyer would benefit from listening to him. I think if you are losing the plot, it is the right time to use experienced people like Curbs to help you get back on track.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Curbs real strength was being able to get the team back to basics after a poor run. We were pretty much always punching above our weight early in the Championship days and certainly in the Premier League. At present I’d say with our squad we’re under performing. Bowyer has been unlucky with injuries yet again but I’d like to see him bring in a defensive coach. We need some lock outs again. I’m  still fully in support of him and failure to get us promoted this season would in my view be forgivable. I don’t think Lee will get any longer than next season to get things right.
    Some of our fans would go ape if Curbs was manager. Maatsen in front of Purrington, Mathews in front of Gunter. If we had CH’s, Pratley holding. 
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,336
    Funny how all these characters are showing up at the club now we have a rich owner. I fully expect to see Paul Walsh and Danny Mills show up next saying what a great club WE are.
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,336
    ct_addick said:
    Funny how all these characters are showing up at the club now we have a rich owner. I fully expect to see Paul Walsh and Danny Mills show up next saying what a great club WE are.
    Curbs has been at games throughout the shit show .
    He’s a Charlton man and like Minto has been asked and paid to do a job and I’m sure most of us are glad for his insight and thoughts.
    Your implied tone is disrespectful to a legend of our club , apologies if I’ve misread you .
    No Curbs is a legend but expect to see a few others sniffing around. 
  • ct_addick said:
    Funny how all these characters are showing up at the club now we have a rich owner. I fully expect to see Paul Walsh and Danny Mills show up next saying what a great club WE are.

  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,871
    ct_addick said:
    ct_addick said:
    Funny how all these characters are showing up at the club now we have a rich owner. I fully expect to see Paul Walsh and Danny Mills show up next saying what a great club WE are.
    Curbs has been at games throughout the shit show .
    He’s a Charlton man and like Minto has been asked and paid to do a job and I’m sure most of us are glad for his insight and thoughts.
    Your implied tone is disrespectful to a legend of our club , apologies if I’ve misread you .
    No Curbs is a legend but expect to see a few others sniffing around. 

    TS is no mug.

    The apparent Charlton name tag con artists know they wouldn't be able to con him for a random club kiss ass pay day.

    To be honest I doubt anyone would have the time on their hands in order to be able to attempt bits like this.

    Just wouldn't happen.
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  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,169
    edited December 2020
    How much of a threat would Bows feel if Curbs was appointed DOF.

    Ideally none, however Bowyer can come across as stubborn and wanting to do everything his way, as a way of putting his authority across and may feel undermined?
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,383
    How much of a threat would Bows feel if Curbs was appointed DOF.

    Ideally none, however Bowyer can come across as stubborn and wanting to do everything his way, as a way of putting his authority across and may feel undermined?
    Can't see Curbs coming in when we already have Gallen as our DOF and Roddy as Technical Director.
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,576
    Can see Curbs being to Bowyer what Peacock was to Curbs, you dont need to  e DoF for that.
  • If we must ask the question then it has to be 'no' for me.
    Eddie Howe is the only other manager I would want.
    If people think that is over ambitious then I disagree. I think TS could persuade him, and he would relish the challenge. Ultimately it often boils down to the salary.
    Eddie Howe would not step down to the 3rd division, nobody would when they do not have to.
  • Scoham said:
    How much of a threat would Bows feel if Curbs was appointed DOF.

    Ideally none, however Bowyer can come across as stubborn and wanting to do everything his way, as a way of putting his authority across and may feel undermined?
    Can't see Curbs coming in when we already have Gallen as our DOF and Roddy as Technical Director.
    I think Gallens title would be more effectively Recruitment and what does Technical Director actually mean?

    I can’t see either Gallen or Roddy being involved with team selection, formations or tactics, I could be wrong.

    Nor, as far as I’m aware have either been managers in the way Curbs has?
  • RaplhMilne
    RaplhMilne Posts: 4,603
    We have 32 points, curbs could get us up to the 40 required to stay up, then shut up shop until next season. Wouldn’t have to even bother getting us knocked out of every cup, LB already done that for him. 

    Can’t, wait....... ! 
  • Now is the time!
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,047
    I really don’t think Curbs is the answer. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    I think I would give the job on a caretaker basis to JJ, make Euell his assistant and give Curbs a helping hand roll. Then review at the end of the season.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,357
    Lord Llewellyn gave Bowyer his start in Pro football .. who knows how much respect Bowyer retains for Curbs .. IF anyone can get Bowyer to listen to a bit of real football know how and savvy, then let's hope that Lord L is that man
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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    Curbs already confirmed in his pre-match discussion with Minto that Bowyer didn't listen to his advice.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,357
    Curbs already confirmed in his pre-match discussion with Minto that Bowyer didn't listen to his advice.
    I missed that .. worrying that 'private' conversations are made public .. that really undermines Bowyer .. could be that Lord L is well set to take over as manager/director of football
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,001
    Curbs already confirmed in his pre-match discussion with Minto that Bowyer didn't listen to his advice.
    For context and clarity, what Curbs said was he thought Bowyer might want to play long ball when League 1 pitches cut up. This was two years ago and as Curbs said: ‘Bows didn’t listen to me and got promoted.’

  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,357
    Valley11 said:
    Curbs already confirmed in his pre-match discussion with Minto that Bowyer didn't listen to his advice.
    For context and clarity, what Curbs said was he thought Bowyer might want to play long ball when League 1 pitches cut up. This was two years ago and as Curbs said: ‘Bows didn’t listen to me and got promoted.’

    just shows the vital importance of context ((:>)
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    edited January 2021
    He said he had a conversation with Bowyer advising him that the passing from the back tactics won't work on many League One pitches. Minto asked how that went and Curbs referred to the Burton game. 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    In Bowyer's defence, it's difficult to switch to a long ball game when the man responsible for holding up play would be Bogle. 
  • Cardinal Sin
    Cardinal Sin Posts: 5,233
    edited January 2021
    Suddenly Curbs goes from old mentor commentating on Valley Pass to vulture in the rafters. We should hold our nerve with Lee Bowyer and see what he can do with a fit and improved squad. Not sure anyone could get us promoted with a make shift central defence and a toothless attack.
  • Curbs already on the payroll doing the valley live stuff, being retroduced back into the Charlton community and saying 'we' all the time...it's gonna happen!
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,223
    edited January 2021
    Curbs already on the payroll doing the valley live stuff, being retroduced back into the Charlton community and saying 'we' all the time...it's gonna happen!
    Or he’s more than happy getting paid for a non-stressful role each game. 

    Him and Minto work really well together on this new and improved VP. Happy for that to continue. 
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Curbs already on the payroll doing the valley live stuff, being retroduced back into the Charlton community and saying 'we' all the time...it's gonna happen!
    I do hope not.