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Crowd Trouble at Portsmouth v Southampton (7 fans jailed for combined 12 years)

The Prince-e-Paul
The Prince-e-Paul Posts: 6,693
in Other Football and Sports
https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/crime/portsmouth-v-southampton-7-men-jailed-combined-12-years-pelting-police-missiles-2998840
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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,856
    The only sad thing about this is that the sentences weren't more severe. A 40 year old amongst them. Who is he going to blame? His deprived childhood? That he was led astray by his elders? A mindless idiot who couldn't give a toss about the consequences of his actions.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,128
    I never realised that this match had a history of crowd problems.
  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,704
    generally found Pompey fans are scum.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,068
    Addick Addict said:
    The only sad thing about this is that the sentences weren't more severe. A 40 year old amongst them. Who is he going to blame? His deprived childhood? That he was led astray by his elders? A mindless idiot who couldn't give a toss about the consequences of his actions.
    "Jack Halstead, 24, of Buckland Close in Waterlooville, launched a plastic cup at riot officers pushing the 300 thugs toward the northern end of Fawcett Road."

    He got 16 months!!
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,161
    Before seeing this post I was talking to a copper last night who is a pompey fan, he said that a relative of his works for Hampshire police and it took them 12 months to go through the footage to pick up all those responsible for the carnage that day, assume those 7 were on that list.
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,161
    Hartleypete said:
    generally found Pompey fans are scum.
    At last years play off final we were talking to a steward who was at the Charlton Pompey game that year in the south stand, he said they threw 38 people out for principally being high on drugs.
  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,553
    I remember Tom Watt (actor and arsenal fan) telling a story about this rivalry. 
    Many years ago, he was brought to a club on the South Coast on a Saturday night to dj or something, the last thing he was told before he went on stage was to avoid mentioning football as there were Portsmouth and Southampton fans in the crowd. 

    The first thing he said was something about football, it all kicked off immediately and that was the end of his evening. 
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,856
    Not an aficionado on these things, but always thought these were the two non-local clubs we’ve had grumbling with over the years.

    Classed them as our riviera version of northerners, and with Bristol probably the three toughest areas south of Birmingham. Must be the docks culture. 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,059
    AFKABartram said:
    Not an aficionado on these things, but always thought these were the two non-local clubs we’ve had grumbling with over the years.

    Classed them as our riviera version of northerners, and with Bristol probably the three toughest areas south of Birmingham. Must be the docks culture. 
    You can add Plymouth to that list, another port town that has some shady parts.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,701
    AFKABartram said:
    Not an aficionado on these things, but always thought these were the two non-local clubs we’ve had grumbling with over the years.

    Classed them as our riviera version of northerners, and with Bristol probably the three toughest areas south of Birmingham. Must be the docks culture. 
    Explains the spanners 🔧 

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  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,856
    You’re right, but don’t recall us having much agg with them and last time they came to The Valley two years ago I remember thinking their trains and coaches must have left Plymouth around 1993!
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    AFKABartram said:
    You’re right, but don’t recall us having much agg with them and last time they came to The Valley two years ago I remember thinking their trains and coaches must have left Plymouth around 1993!
    Their coaches did a pick up at Larkfield.
  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,553
    I attended Plymouth v Portsmouth playoff match a few years back, there were some very scary types in evidence on the Plymouth side. 
    Plymouth and Exeter rivalry always brings problems for the police along the lines the op mentioned. 
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    AFKABartram said:
    You’re right, but don’t recall us having much agg with them and last time they came to The Valley two years ago I remember thinking their trains and coaches must have left Plymouth around 1993!
    You were not around in the seventy's then. Loads of trouble with Pompey at the Valley and away.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    dickplumb said:
    AFKABartram said:
    You’re right, but don’t recall us having much agg with them and last time they came to The Valley two years ago I remember thinking their trains and coaches must have left Plymouth around 1993!
    You were not around in the seventy's then. Loads of trouble with Pompey at the Valley and away.
    What's that got to do with Plymouth? 
  • man_at_milletts
    man_at_milletts Posts: 5,620
    AFKABartram said:
    Not an aficionado on these things, but always thought these were the two non-local clubs we’ve had grumbling with over the years.

    Classed them as our riviera version of northerners, and with Bristol probably the three toughest areas south of Birmingham. Must be the docks culture. 

    Many moons ago at a reserve game at The Valley was speaking to some coppers about this, and they put it down to the dock towns as being the worst offenders.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,376
    TellyTubby said:
    I attended Plymouth v Portsmouth playoff match a few years back, there were some very scary types in evidence on the Plymouth side. 
    Plymouth and Exeter rivalry always brings problems for the police along the lines the op mentioned. 
    when Torquay were in the EFL, their games v Plymouth could get the fans a little bit edgy ((:>)
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,376
    dickplumb said:
    AFKABartram said:
    You’re right, but don’t recall us having much agg with them and last time they came to The Valley two years ago I remember thinking their trains and coaches must have left Plymouth around 1993!
    You were not around in the seventy's then. Loads of trouble with Pompey at the Valley and away.
    and this in the time of non segregated crowds .. Pompey fans have always (or rather were always) a fecking nuisance at the Valley
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,128
    AFKABartram said:
    Not an aficionado on these things, but always thought these were the two non-local clubs we’ve had grumbling with over the years.

    Classed them as our riviera version of northerners, and with Bristol probably the three toughest areas south of Birmingham. Must be the docks culture. 
    Too much cider swigging.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,128
    I have always loved going down to Portsmouth and have always had a great time.
    When we had Di Canio play for us he stole the show down there and we came from behind to beat them.
    After the game we went down to Portsmouth Harbour and had a few.  A couple of guys came up to us thinking we were Portsmouth, it turned out they were spanners :D, anyway, they were alright and one of them wanted to stay for a few more.   The only trouble was that they were running out of time for their boat to Bilbao.
    By this time I was very keen to keep the conversation going, it ended up with Mr Chatterbox being dragged out of the boozer :)

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  • Daarrzzetbum
    Daarrzzetbum Posts: 1,236
    They hate each other due to a history of Southampton Dockers breaking a dock strike and working at Portsmouth docks, hence why they call Southampton fans Scummers, some say it's an urban myth but mates of mine who are Pompey fans recall stories from their dads & uncles who were dockers and claim it as fact. 
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,856
    dickplumb said:
    AFKABartram said:
    You’re right, but don’t recall us having much agg with them and last time they came to The Valley two years ago I remember thinking their trains and coaches must have left Plymouth around 1993!
    You were not around in the seventy's then. Loads of trouble with Pompey at the Valley and away.
    I was talking about Plymouth 
  • floydroadfaithfull
    floydroadfaithfull Posts: 4,778
    Exeter and Plymouth always have a tear up
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,827
    @Oggy Red can you still get a 3 bed in Plymouth for 100k
  • The Prince-e-Paul
    The Prince-e-Paul Posts: 6,693
    clb74 said:
    @Oggy Red can you still get a 3 bed in Plymouth for 100k
    Blinkin Eck, they must be made of money. Can get two on my estate for that 😉
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,659
    Lincsaddick said:
    dickplumb said:
    AFKABartram said:
    You’re right, but don’t recall us having much agg with them and last time they came to The Valley two years ago I remember thinking their trains and coaches must have left Plymouth around 1993!
    You were not around in the seventy's then. Loads of trouble with Pompey at the Valley and away.
    and this in the time of non segregated crowds .. Pompey fans have always (or rather were always) a fecking nuisance at the Valley
    and they were just the survivors of millwall at London Bridge.
  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 1,985
    Cafc43v3r said:
    dickplumb said:
    AFKABartram said:
    You’re right, but don’t recall us having much agg with them and last time they came to The Valley two years ago I remember thinking their trains and coaches must have left Plymouth around 1993!
    You were not around in the seventy's then. Loads of trouble with Pompey at the Valley and away.
    What's that got to do with Plymouth? 
    There was trouble at Plymouth away in 70s
  • southamptonaddick
    southamptonaddick Posts: 4,057
    redbuttle said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    dickplumb said:
    AFKABartram said:
    You’re right, but don’t recall us having much agg with them and last time they came to The Valley two years ago I remember thinking their trains and coaches must have left Plymouth around 1993!
    You were not around in the seventy's then. Loads of trouble with Pompey at the Valley and away.
    What's that got to do with Plymouth? 
    There was trouble at Plymouth away in 70s
    To be fair there was trouble at most aways (and home come to that) in the 70s. 
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,816
    Daarrzzetbum said:
    They hate each other due to a history of Southampton Dockers breaking a dock strike and working at Portsmouth docks, hence why they call Southampton fans Scummers, some say it's an urban myth but mates of mine who are Pompey fans recall stories from their dads & uncles who were dockers and claim it as fact. 
    In that case Southampton deserve everything they get.  Can't stand blacklegs.
  • ChicagoAddick
    ChicagoAddick Posts: 4,398
    Daarrzzetbum said:
    They hate each other due to a history of Southampton Dockers breaking a dock strike and working at Portsmouth docks, hence why they call Southampton fans Scummers, some say it's an urban myth but mates of mine who are Pompey fans recall stories from their dads & uncles who were dockers and claim it as fact. 
    Similar reason to the ‘rivalry’ of Nottingham Forest and Sheffield United. Miners strike in their case.

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