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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Looks like we’re being a bit hasty with this closure. So many questions still be answered.AFKABartram said:Obviously I understand everything but for the benefit of those not as intelligent as me, could someone kindly explain what exactly has happened / been confirmed today?2 -
I’m calling for a two week extension, it could be crucial.9
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I wonder how long it will be before the next takeover thread!0
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Agreed. I demand an extension.SouthLincsAddick said:I’m calling for a two week extension, it could be crucial.1 -
FFS. Back to the housing analogies.Bolderhumphreyreid said:
Agreed. I demand an extension.SouthLincsAddick said:I’m calling for a two week extension, it could be crucial.
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Like all the best American TV series. Comes to an end, but does it? Leaves you guessing. Will there be a second season? 'Kin hope not!0
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I doubt it. Staprix have the charge as security for their loan to ESI.Alwaysneil said:
Yeah I think that the 32 page document setting up a charge on Sparrows Lane in particular prevents Duchatelet from selling or otherwise damaging the freehold asset until it is transferred to ESI. Only skimmed it on my phone mind.Covered End said:So ESI now own the Leaseholds of The Valley & Training ground as we had assumed.
Starprix have an outstanding loan to ESI which is secured by a debenture.
If my lifetime of banking serves me well, that debenture is a second charge, which ranks behind the first charge, director's debenture(s).
Presumably, ESI repay the loan when purchasing the freehold.0 -
Missing you, and you haven't gone yet.0
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don't think the thread should close until ESI own us lock, stock and barrel.
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Its not 100% doneAFKABartram said:Obviously I understand everything but for the benefit of those not as intelligent as me, could someone kindly explain what exactly has happened / been confirmed today?1 -
Explain it, in what sense?Cafc43v3r said:
Its not 100% doneAFKABartram said:Obviously I understand everything but for the benefit of those not as intelligent as me, could someone kindly explain what exactly has happened / been confirmed today?
It was never going to be 100% done until the later freehold purchases, which have been well discussed. What is new today?0 -
Stand up to extend the thread....
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I'm not sure there's anything new, but have only skimmed the 32 pages.AFKABartram said:
Explain it, in what sense?Cafc43v3r said:
Its not 100% doneAFKABartram said:Obviously I understand everything but for the benefit of those not as intelligent as me, could someone kindly explain what exactly has happened / been confirmed today?
It was never going to be 100% done until the later freehold purchases, which have been well discussed. What is new today?0 -
I think it should be left to @Grapevine49 to do a last final summarising post and then just closed for posterity.
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The charge added to the football club today asks more questions than it answers.AFKABartram said:
Explain it, in what sense?Cafc43v3r said:
Its not 100% doneAFKABartram said:Obviously I understand everything but for the benefit of those not as intelligent as me, could someone kindly explain what exactly has happened / been confirmed today?
It was never going to be 100% done until the later freehold purchases, which have been well discussed. What is new today?
How is it legally valid if it contradicts the exdirectors loans?
Of course this isn't a problem if they have been paid up, or given written permission, but @Airman Brown is saying he knows they haven't.
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I'm no lawyer but the 'directors' loans' are singled out in the new charge agreement as a 'permitted encumbrance.'Cafc43v3r said:
The charge added to the football club today asks more questions than it answers.AFKABartram said:
Explain it, in what sense?Cafc43v3r said:
Its not 100% doneAFKABartram said:Obviously I understand everything but for the benefit of those not as intelligent as me, could someone kindly explain what exactly has happened / been confirmed today?
It was never going to be 100% done until the later freehold purchases, which have been well discussed. What is new today?
How is it legally valid if it contradicts the exdirectors loans?
Of course this isn't a problem if they have been paid up, or given written permission, but @Airman Brown is saying he knows they haven't.
If there is no change to the status of the 'directors' loans' why would written permission be necessary?
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You do know the thread closes today dont you? 😉Horsfield9 said:I think it should be left to @Grapevine49 to do a last final summarising post and then just closed for posterity.10 -
Grapevine has probably been working on it since the announcement and saved in his drafts.Redvalleyeast said:
You do know the thread closes today dont you? 😉Horsfield9 said:I think it should be left to @Grapevine49 to do a last final summarising post and then just closed for posterity.1 -
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Not sure if it has been mentioned elsewhere but, Companies House has been updated -
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/01788466/officers
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I'm trying to think back to the days when I used to deal with this sort of thing.LenGlover said:
I'm no lawyer but the 'directors' loans' are singled out in the new charge agreement as a 'permitted encumbrance.'Cafc43v3r said:
The charge added to the football club today asks more questions than it answers.AFKABartram said:
Explain it, in what sense?Cafc43v3r said:
Its not 100% doneAFKABartram said:Obviously I understand everything but for the benefit of those not as intelligent as me, could someone kindly explain what exactly has happened / been confirmed today?
It was never going to be 100% done until the later freehold purchases, which have been well discussed. What is new today?
How is it legally valid if it contradicts the exdirectors loans?
Of course this isn't a problem if they have been paid up, or given written permission, but @Airman Brown is saying he knows they haven't.
If there is no change to the status of the 'directors' loans' why would written permission be necessary?
I'm thinking that if we took a 2nd charge (which I think Staprix have done), you had to give notice to the holder of the 1st charge(s).
So in this case Staprix should give notice to the ex-directors that they have taken a 2nd charge.
If the security needed to be relied upon the ex-directors would be paid before Staprix.
You couldn't give notice until the 2nd charge had actually been registered, so the notices should be received in due course.
However, it looks like the document is calling this a 1st charge and they are calling the ex-director loans Permitted Encumbrances.0 -
who is Tahnoon AL NASIRAT?
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Our owner. There appears to be 2 different ways to spell his name.LargeAddick said:who is Tahnoon AL NASIRAT?0 -
Guess who in the Grey
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Great , clear as mud then !!!!!0
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'Permitted Encumbrance' is my new band name.LenGlover said:
I'm no lawyer but the 'directors' loans' are singled out in the new charge agreement as a 'permitted encumbrance.'Cafc43v3r said:
The charge added to the football club today asks more questions than it answers.AFKABartram said:
Explain it, in what sense?Cafc43v3r said:
Its not 100% doneAFKABartram said:Obviously I understand everything but for the benefit of those not as intelligent as me, could someone kindly explain what exactly has happened / been confirmed today?
It was never going to be 100% done until the later freehold purchases, which have been well discussed. What is new today?
How is it legally valid if it contradicts the exdirectors loans?
Of course this isn't a problem if they have been paid up, or given written permission, but @Airman Brown is saying he knows they haven't.
If there is no change to the status of the 'directors' loans' why would written permission be necessary?2 -
Good fucking riddance to the thread I say . 😛1
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Arabic names are very complex & they are subject to all sorts of regional / national variations. If anybody is interested, fill your boots with this:
https://www.councilscienceeditors.org/wp-content/uploads/v28n1p020-021.pdf
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We have come on here to say goodbye to a legend and some CL members are showing no respect by talking shop over the body.
Has anyone seen what spread AFKA has arranged ? And I'm not talking Vanessa Feltz. (AFKA will explain !)2
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