I think the only players I would want from Sunderland are Lynden Gooch and Luke O'Nien, maybe McGeady. Used to rate Max Power but he is in decline
Definitely not Gooch or McGeady. Cannot see how Power can be decline at 26. Having said that I cannot see how Power and the lad from Liverpool would both sign, we need a more attacking midfielder.
I don’t see how you come to the conclusion that we need a more attacking midfielder. We are shipping goals and part of that reason is that kids do not track players effectively. We also concede so much possession that the defence is under constant pressure. We do have Williams, Green, and Oztumer who can provide the cutting edge and this will not be our only signing. I would also suggest that a player who has been with Liverpool for so long will be very very good at the transition between defence and attack - he will know how to make a telling forward pass!
Because we have Cullen, Field, Pratley and Lapslie who can play that sort of role. Yes we are struggling at the moment but that's because 3 of those have been injured. Chuck in two new signings and that's too many players in one position. We have lost Gallagher who's goals were a big part of our early success. We need a midfielder who can score goals. I love Williams and he should start most of the time but he doesn't score goals. An attacking midfielder capable of scoring a goal would have helped get something in games like Swansea and Derby.
Hopefully that can be Aneke, but he appears to be made of glass.
I still think we need 2 CMs to replace Kayal and Gallgher, and I just hope they are not both defensive midfielders. We need one capable of popping up in the box.
PC is a proper box to box with an eye for a pass. An upgrade on Morgan with an engine that is a marginal step down on Gallagher.
Genuinely not digging you out, but he's played 2 games for Liverpool a few years apart, what are you basing your opinion on?
Not a problem, I work with a Liverpool fan who travels to every Liverpool U23 game in PL2.
I messaged him this morning to ask what kind of a player he was. His description of PC sounds a lot like a blend of Gallagher and Morgan.
Here's his reply
I haven't heard anything about you being in for him? I think he'd do well in the Championship. He works hard all game, or at least until the 60th/70th minute when he tires. He sprays the ball around accurately with short passes, but he has an eye for a long a pass too and they come off quite a lot.
He can also split defences with decent through balls. He's not a goalscorer and tends to play the pass that leads to the assist, not the actual assist.
Pedro isn't afraid to put a tackle in with some tenacity, will work hard to regain possession. He sometimes jumps in a bit so something to be wary of is that he can be a booking waiting to happen.
That coupled with my understanding of Morgan and Gallagher that I have seen week in, week out leads me to the assumption that PC could be an improvement on Morgan, but with an engine and effort a bit like Gallagher. Certainly sounds like he doesn't have Gallagher's eye for goal either... obviously can't say for certain he's better than Morgan or has less of an engine than Gallagher.
Find it very hard to believe that we would be outbidding Middlesbrough on wages for a player, not to mention Maddison is from the north east so would almost certainly prefer to play for Boro than us.
I think the only players I would want from Sunderland are Lynden Gooch and Luke O'Nien, maybe McGeady. Used to rate Max Power but he is in decline
Definitely not Gooch or McGeady. Cannot see how Power can be decline at 26. Having said that I cannot see how Power and the lad from Liverpool would both sign, we need a more attacking midfielder.
I don’t see how you come to the conclusion that we need a more attacking midfielder. We are shipping goals and part of that reason is that kids do not track players effectively. We also concede so much possession that the defence is under constant pressure. We do have Williams, Green, and Oztumer who can provide the cutting edge and this will not be our only signing. I would also suggest that a player who has been with Liverpool for so long will be very very good at the transition between defence and attack - he will know how to make a telling forward pass!
Because we have Cullen, Field, Pratley and Lapslie who can play that sort of role. Yes we are struggling at the moment but that's because 3 of those have been injured. Chuck in two new signings and that's too many players in one position. We have lost Gallagher who's goals were a big part of our early success. We need a midfielder who can score goals. I love Williams and he should start most of the time but he doesn't score goals. An attacking midfielder capable of scoring a goal would have helped get something in games like Swansea and Derby.
Hopefully that can be Aneke, but he appears to be made of glass.
I still think we need 2 CMs to replace Kayal and Gallgher, and I just hope they are not both defensive midfielders. We need one capable of popping up in the box.
PC is a proper box to box with an eye for a pass. An upgrade on Morgan with an engine that is a marginal step down on Gallagher.
Genuinely not digging you out, but he's played 2 games for Liverpool a few years apart, what are you basing your opinion on?
Not a problem, I work with a Liverpool fan who travels to every Liverpool U23 game in PL2.
I messaged him this morning to ask what kind of a player he was. His description of PC sounds a lot like a blend of Gallagher and Morgan.
Here's his reply
I haven't heard anything about you being in for him? I think he'd do well in the Championship. He works hard all game, or at least until the 60th/70th minute when he tires. He sprays the ball around accurately with short passes, but he has an eye for a long a pass too and they come off quite a lot.
He can also split defences with decent through balls. He's not a goalscorer and tends to play the pass that leads to the assist, not the actual assist.
Pedro isn't afraid to put a tackle in with some tenacity, will work hard to regain possession. He sometimes jumps in a bit so something to be wary of is that he can be a booking waiting to happen.
That coupled with my understanding of Morgan and Gallagher that I have seen week in, week out leads me to the assumption that PC could be an improvement on Morgan, but with an engine and effort a bit like Gallagher. Certainly sounds like he doesn't have Gallagher's eye for goal either... obviously can't say for certain he's better than Morgan or has less of an engine than Gallagher.
A very loose assumption and hopefully it's right.
Thanks, sounds positive and hopefully (if we sign him obvioulsy) he turns out like Gallagher, in terms of being a great find.
But, my initial stance is still the same that he sounds like a replacement for Kayal and isn't going to chip in with a few so I would still like a Gallagher replacement too.
Find it very hard to believe that we would be outbidding Middlesbrough on wages for a player, not to mention Maddison is from the north east so would almost certainly prefer to play for Boro than us.
56 mins to unveil Maddison.....
I hope he is unveiled just after 1pm so I can castigated the person who posted in on Twitter.
Find it very hard to believe that we would be outbidding Middlesbrough on wages for a player, not to mention Maddison is from the north east so would almost certainly prefer to play for Boro than us.
56 mins to unveil Maddison.....
I hope he is unveiled just after 1pm so I can castigated the person who posted in on Twitter.
Guys, whisper it quietly, but I think Charltonw99 might have made this up.
Find it very hard to believe that we would be outbidding Middlesbrough on wages for a player, not to mention Maddison is from the north east so would almost certainly prefer to play for Boro than us.
56 mins to unveil Maddison.....
I hope he is unveiled just after 1pm so I can castigated the person who posted in on Twitter.
Guys, whisper it quietly, but I think Charltonw99 might have made this up.
You are joking? I’ve just had a picture of Maddison in a Charlton shirt tattooed on my leg.
Because Maddison is from the North East it doesn’t necessarily follow that he would prefer to play up there. Judging by his character he may well prefer the bright lights of London.
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For the oldies among us, that's street slang for "Goodbye."
I guess we'll find out very shortly.
I messaged him this morning to ask what kind of a player he was. His description of PC sounds a lot like a blend of Gallagher and Morgan.
Here's his reply
I haven't heard anything about you being in for him? I think he'd do well in the Championship.
He works hard all game, or at least until the 60th/70th minute when he tires. He sprays the ball around accurately with short passes, but he has an eye for a long a pass too and they come off quite a lot.
He can also split defences with decent through balls. He's not a goalscorer and tends to play the pass that leads to the assist, not the actual assist.
Pedro isn't afraid to put a tackle in with some tenacity, will work hard to regain possession. He sometimes jumps in a bit so something to be wary of is that he can be a booking waiting to happen.
That coupled with my understanding of Morgan and Gallagher that I have seen week in, week out leads me to the assumption that PC could be an improvement on Morgan, but with an engine and effort a bit like Gallagher. Certainly sounds like he doesn't have Gallagher's eye for goal either... obviously can't say for certain he's better than Morgan or has less of an engine than Gallagher.
A very loose assumption and hopefully it's right.
But, my initial stance is still the same that he sounds like a replacement for Kayal and isn't going to chip in with a few so I would still like a Gallagher replacement too.
He wants a contract that has a guarantee for compensation for the full length of it.
Not just with a rolling 12 months compensation. Seems to be a real lack of belief in himself.
Check back @ 2pm just in case
He’s signed, right?